Ride Sharing Shenanigans Turning Ugly

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There is a reason you identify your ride sharing driver by name, before you hop in the car with him and cruise away. If "Bob" is supposed to come pick you up, make sure that "Bob" is driving the car. And while this is not exactly tech related, and about 98% of HardOCP readership identifies as "The Dude," that might be a good tip to pass along to those family and friends that identify as "not The Dude," and try to be responsible by not drinking and driving. Let's face it, you don't want a someone to assume your gender and play hide the sausage with you on the way home. And that is our PSA for the day.


"These predators drive in areas where there are nightclubs and they prey on intoxicated victims or people they perceived to be intoxicated." Los Angeles police Homicide Capt. Bill Hayes said. "Did they call an Uber? the predator will ask. And when the victim jumps into the vehicle, they don't realize that is not the one they called."
 
Gigus Fire said:
Isn't the real problem being intoxicated in public and then being taken advantage of?
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What do you propose then? Not drinking at all? We ain't got the right to act holier-than-thou about getting drunk, and seriously, those people need to get home without being taken advantage of.
Pinning it as "their problem in being intoxicated" is an apologist's argument in defense of not holding the drivers liable.

edit: time for my moment of being an asshole of a disclosure, for I am a teetotaler who's too cheap to sip martini.
 
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Reimu said:
What do you propose then? Not drinking at all? We ain't got the right to act holier-than-thou about getting drunk, and seriously, those people need to get home without being taken advantage of.
Pinning it as "their problem in being intoxicated" is an apologist's argument in defense of not holding the drivers liable.

edit: time for my moment of being an asshole of a disclosure, for I am a teetotaler who's too cheap to sip martini.
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The other side of the argument is, "Do stupid things, win stupid prizes." If someone is so drunk that they can't determine whether or not they are going home with the right stranger, they have a problem.
 
I duknow.. a bit of taken advantage here.. save on an ambulance there.. It's a wash, right?

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But instead of calling an ambulance to get the urgent medical attention he needed, the sick passenger called an Uber Pool. The shared ride would save him a few bucks, but it meant he’d have to wait for Fish to drop off the first passenger before he’d get to the ER.
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Ride-hail drivers are, by and large, untrained, self-employed workers driving their own cars on a part-time basis. They’re not medical professionals. But as health care costs have risen and ride-hail has become more pervasive, people are increasingly relying on Uber and Lyft drivers to get them to the hospital when they need emergency care.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolineod...al-liabilities?utm_term=.rm1Yq7K9M#.liD648zOM
 
kirbyrj said:
The other side of the argument is, "Do stupid things, win stupid prizes." If someone is so drunk that they can't determine whether or not they are going home with the right stranger, they have a problem.
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The driver screening issue is a systemic one, the drunkard being fucktard is an individual human failing. The onus of the first issue falls on the ridesharing services, while the later solely on the drunkards.

(not that the society hasn't tried, but we all know how Prohibition went)
 
Reimu said:
What do you propose then? Not drinking at all? We ain't got the right to act holier-than-thou about getting drunk, and seriously, those people need to get home without being taken advantage of.
Pinning it as "their problem in being intoxicated" is an apologist's argument in defense of not holding the drivers liable.

edit: time for my moment of being an asshole of a disclosure, for I am a teetotaler who's too cheap to sip martini.
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No, i don't think prohibiting people from making mistakes is a solution. You can't protect people from themselves. You can try and protect them from others, but when it comes down to it, there's a certain level of personal responsibility associated with all your actions.
If you want to go out drinking, sure. Go with friends, make sure you take care of each other and have someone designated as a driver for that outing. Don't go to strange places with strange people. Don't trust people that you don't know.
Now i'm sure even with all that advice that going out and drinking in public still comes with some risks, but if you're willing to take those risks then sure, but not planning before hand exponentially increases those risks.

Besides, you can't prevent everything. Even if you call for a taxi and a taxi car comes along and picks you up, who's to say it's not a serial killer driving the car?
 
katanaD said:
the only time i have ever taken an uber, provided by the car shop, the driver, wow was she hot.

sadly I was not taken advantage of
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yes, if it weren't for uber, there would be lots of jobless hot chicks out there.
 
I’ve almost got into the wrong car before. Stopped in front of me, same model, same color. Had my hand on the door handle and the car drove away. Good thing I let go.
 
Reimu said:
What do you propose then? Not drinking at all? We ain't got the right to act holier-than-thou about getting drunk, and seriously, those people need to get home without being taken advantage of.
Pinning it as "their problem in being intoxicated" is an apologist's argument in defense of not holding the drivers liable.

edit: time for my moment of being an asshole of a disclosure, for I am a teetotaler who's too cheap to sip martini.
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the drivers are guilty of crimes, but the people still have to be responsible for their actions of putting themselves into those type of positions. If that means cutting back some before getting too shitfaced that you don't know who you are getting in a car with then so be it. If you walk through a crime ridden area at 2am with hundred dollar bills taped to you all over yelling free money don't be surprised that you get robbed. If you are too plastered to know what vehicle that you are supposed to be getting into and who your driver is, you probably should have somebody else with you that can take responsibility for you getting home.
 
gotta look into the car plates carefully, of course being totally drunk wont help you do that.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
of course it is time for................>YOU KIDS GET OUT OF MY CAR!!!!

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He needs lessons in customer handling, she needs lessons in situational awareness. They both need one of Kyle's calm down messages. At least they were at the hospital if he'd had apoplexy. But yeah funny.
 
Wait, something bad could come from riding in an unregulated, uninsured, gypsy cab? Where drivers never take have to do a background check, or drug test, or anything? And customers are frequently super inebriated?

I honestly don't know how we're not hearing about Uber/Lyft robberies / murders / worse every day on the news.

edit - so maybe there is some version of a background check, just not a very good one...
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/03/tec...cks-new-york-terror-attack-suspect/index.html
 
Burticus said:
Wait, something bad could come from riding in an unregulated, uninsured, gypsy cab? Where drivers never take have to do a background check, or drug test, or anything? And customers are frequently super inebriated?

I honestly don't know how we're not hearing about Uber/Lyft robberies / murders / worse every day on the news.

edit - so maybe there is some version of a background check, just not a very good one...
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/03/tec...cks-new-york-terror-attack-suspect/index.html
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did you just half read the title then decide to start ranting about something unrelated to the issue? This is not about a single ride share driver. This topic is about people that drive areas that they assume people have probably called a ride share, look for people (mostly women) who appear to be waiting for a ride share and appear to be trashed, and then pretends to be a ride share driver to kidnap and rape / attack the person.

These are not drivers for the service but are random people and background checks or no background checks won't change anything. This is a evolution of people that would see young kids waiting after school and would stop to tell them they are a friend of their parents, that something happen and they need to come with them only to kidnap the kid.
 
WhoMe said:
He needs lessons in customer handling, she needs lessons in situational awareness. They both need one of Kyle's calm down messages. At least they were at the hospital if he'd had apoplexy. But yeah funny.
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Here is the issue.
I don't think it is all that funny. It is very thought provoking.
The guy is about to snap and strangle that flaming idiot woman. Being "blind with rage" is a real phenomenon. When people are pushed to their limits you don't what will happen.
What I find so amazing is that stupid entitlement idiot woman. What would I have done in the same situation? I would have been more point blank instead of screaming. I would have told her "You are here. The ride is over, please exit the car or I will eject you by force. Your choice." If she didn't comply I would have thrown her on the curb and drove away.
What is she going to say? "Whhhaahah!!! He threw me out of his car!!"
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Here is the issue.
I don't think it is all that funny. It is very thought provoking.
The guy is about to snap and strangle that flaming idiot woman. Being "blind with rage" is a real phenomenon. When people are pushed to their limits you don't what will happen.
What I find so amazing is that stupid entitlement idiot woman. What would I have done in the same situation? I would have been more point blank instead of screaming. I would have told her "You are here. The ride is over, please exit the car or I will eject you by force. Your choice." If she didn't comply I would have thrown her on the curb and drove away.
What is she going to say? "Whhhaahah!!! He threw me out of his car!!"
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While going way off topic as this isn't about the behavior of ride share drivers. Your solution isn't any better. You are still saying that you would have physically assaulted the woman.

Only "correct" option if you want to call it that would be to keep charging her while she refuses to get out of the car and then call the police to have them remove her from your vehicle. You dragging a person kicking and screaming out of your car could result in you injuring them at which point no they aren't going to say that you threw them out of your car. They are going to say how you hurt them by physically assaulting them and caused them mental and physical injury.
 
Exavior said:
While going way off topic as this isn't about the behavior of ride share drivers. Your solution isn't any better. You are still saying that you would have physically assaulted the woman.
Only "correct" option if you want to call it that would be to keep charging her while she refuses to get out of the car and then call the police to have them remove her from your vehicle. You dragging a person kicking and screaming out of your car could result in you injuring them at which point no they aren't going to say that you threw them out of your car. They are going to say how you hurt them by physically assaulting them and caused them mental and physical injury.
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You can forcibly eject someone from your car (make sure the are isn't moving first) just like you can force someone trespassing out of your house. If I was an Uber driver I would have a video camera recording everything. How I calmly ask them to exit the vehicle. And again how I calmly ask them to exit or I would forcibly eject them. Dragging someone out of your car isn't the same as assault.
Regardless of the fact they didn't like it.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
of course it is time for................>YOU KIDS GET OUT OF MY CAR!!!!

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The first thing that went through my mind was, "What did she do to piss him off that badly?". I practically fell out of my chair when he screamed, "I'm facing a fucking moron!" as loud as he possibly could...
 
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