NVIDIA Claims That GPU Prices Will Continue Increasing through Q3 2018

Best Buy, New Egg, Amazon, and a few others are selling RX580's for $500 which is nothing short of insane. The 1080's are $800 and the 1080Ti's are $1200. None were in. And I'm not touching them till they get close to MSRP. I have deep pockets, but I'm not stupid.
 
HAHAHAHAHA Guess that new Volta stuff will be expensive and not a reasonable MSRP after all. :D
 
Riptide_NVN said:
So much negativity. Maybe it will all work out in the end and everyone will be happy.

The shortage w/AMD has been much worse. At least you can get a 1080ti for 50-100 over MSRP if you use nowinstock and get the text alerts. I know this because It's worked well for me just recently. The Vega cards though? 100% markup and practically never in stock. AMD is flat out to lunch.
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So, NVidia is lying and they really want to be everyone's pals then, eh? Free video cards for all! :D (They only want one thing, your money and that is all.)
 
mesyn191 said:
My WAG MSRP's would be: 2060= $299, 2070= $450, 2080= $550, and the 2080Ti= $799.

Those prices are all quite a bit over where the GTX10xx cards MSRP'd at. Price gougers and shortages could easily push the prices up to where you're expecting though.
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Real MSRP's are not happening because, after all, Nvidia wants in on the gravy train too. :)
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Best Buy, New Egg, Amazon, and a few others are selling RX580's for $500 which is nothing short of insane. The 1080's are $800 and the 1080Ti's are $1200. None were in. And I'm not touching them till they get close to MSRP. I have deep pockets, but I'm not stupid.
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XBox One X. :) Of course, I bought a Vega 56 because all this stuff started so, I am all set. (I do have an X though and it works quite well.)

Edit: Cool thing is, pre built computers will sell more often now. Bestbuy has machines in stock at good prices.
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Best Buy, New Egg, Amazon, and a few others are selling RX580's for $500 which is nothing short of insane. The 1080's are $800 and the 1080Ti's are $1200. None were in. And I'm not touching them till they get close to MSRP. I have deep pockets, but I'm not stupid.
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Welcome to market theory 101. Something is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it, nothing insane about it.

ManofGod said:
HAHAHAHAHA Guess that new Volta stuff will be expensive and not a reasonable MSRP after all. :D
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We honestly have no idea: we don't know what MSRP would be set at, we don't know performance, we don't know demand, and we don't know production volume. Many scenarios are possible, and not all are detrimental to gaming.

ManofGod said:
Real MSRP's are not happening because, after all, Nvidia wants in on the gravy train too. :)
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Nvidia should get in on the 'gravy train'- it's their innovation that the market is demanding, after all.
 
Riptide_NVN said:
Nowinstock with text alerts you don't need to spend 1200$. Not even close.
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You can't complain if you can't find a card reasonably priced, seems they would listen to you as many times as I have seen people replying like you.

Seems confusion is Nvidias game as they have been pointing at miners, then not, then it's RAM, then not, then now they are going to raise prices, because reasons. Gotta love it, they just want to be able to respond and agree with anyone's prediction of what is causing or not causing the shortages. It is all very funny.
 
MavericK said:
Video cards are already $700+ MSRP. If the base price continues to rise, I'll just play games on console or find a new hobby.
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You and nearly everyone else. But who cares if we ultimately blow up the industry as long as we can make a buck today?
 
sigh. so much for pushing the limits of game graphics at a time when no one can get cards at reasonable prices to play them
 
In other news, water is wet. I’ve had a 1080 on my wishlist for a year now and I don’t think I will ever get around to buying one. On the occasion the price gets near MSRP, I’ve already spend my big ticket budget on other stuff. ‍♂️
 
TheSoldier said:
In other news, water is wet. I’ve had a 1080 on my wishlist for a year now and I don’t think I will ever get around to buying one. On the occasion the price gets near MSRP, I’ve already spend my big ticket budget on other stuff. ‍♂️
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The best time to buy any video card is at launch(with a 1-2 month window for price gouging to subside) or when the next gen comes out.
A 1080 was pretty cheap just before the 1080ti came out. The prices for RAM and GPUs fluctuates and if you want to buy one or the other you should be monitoring prices. I almost purchased a 1080 because the 1080ti was taking forever to come out, but I waited and the 1080ti proved to be a great upgrade over my 980ti.
 
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Didn't people kept preaching how Volta will save gamers from the miners?

I hope they finally got it through their heads that nvidia isn't going to do crap to save gamers.
 
DTN107 said:
Didn't people kept preaching how Volta will save gamers from the miners?

I hope they finally got it through their heads that nvidia isn't going to do crap to save gamers.
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There's dedicated hardware for miners that once a person turns into a true digital currency miner they sell their GPUs and upgrade.
 
I am so glad I spent some extra money and bought gtx1080 when I did... Waiting would have bitten me in the arse big time and having a need to upgrade right now would be a financial disaster.
 
Learn to backorder instead of waiting for something to be in stock. Shop abroad if needed.
 
Of all the times for my 980ti to die, it would be this morning. Now running on an old 770. Looks like really old games only for awhile. At least the 770 can handle Civ V at 4k. I saw this story and then shortly thereafter my card whet up in smoke (and it was a new card originally...this is one good reason I'd never buy a used card, new ones don't last long enough as it is).
 
WhoMe said:
Of all the times for my 980ti to die, it would be this morning. Now running on an old 770. Looks like really old games only for awhile. At least the 770 can handle Civ V at 4k. I saw this story and then shortly thereafter my card whet up in smoke (and it was a new card originally...this is one good reason I'd never buy a used card, new ones don't last long enough as it is).
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What brand?
 
I have no problem with cards raised prices. crypto currency though can rot in hell as worthless the stuff is. Cards used to be dirt cheap
 
odditory said:
But thats only the high end fringe of GPUs. Most gamers aren't on 1080Ti's if you look at Steam stats. Median GPU is far, far lower.

But to play devil's advocate, if PC gaming with a luxury class GPU was so important, why not already have one? Prices have only been higher since last month. 1080Ti came out early last year, and 1070/1080 came out mid 2016.

I get the sense that for some people complaining about the shortage and 20% higher pricing, it's a case of suddenly wanting it more simply because of it's new scarcity. Human nature, FTL.
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Well, some folks hold off on higher end GPU while new release prices come down. In this case it hasn't happened and only got so much worse with all the mining madness that many can't afford any current gen GPU, much less a higher end card (or simply refuse to pay these bullshit inflated prices). Inflated mining prices have been there for more than a few months now. Mid range and higher cards are selling for double their MSRP.
 
this is a ploy to finally kill PC Gaming !
:nailbiting:
After all these years of pc gaming , I've done since the late 80's too ,it's
really disheartening to see this slow downward spiral for us ........

I'd like to upgrade , but I'm not going to pay these overinflated prices..........

Glad I have a decent library of unplayed games, plus bought a PS4 pro around
a year ago, not the same as pc gaming , but will have to do........
 
sleepeeg3 said:
Your choices are AMD or NVIDIA or no gaming. If you want to game, they have you by the balls.
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Or consoles. The PC gaming industry has/had been experiencing a nice little resurgence...I mean some of us never left, but there is certainly a window of time where consoles were clearly the priority for developers. The 360/PS3 decade.

Now watch the GPU shortage spawn the next console uptick, depending on how long the mining bubble lasts. Consumers might eventually get tired of waiting to buy a gfx card, and suddenly a $400 PS uber pro or Xbox One Infinity starts to look better and better.
 
Derangel said:
The MSRP on cards Nvidia sells directly hasn't budged at all. AIBs have raised prices in reaction to memory costs being higher, but it seems like Nvidia is pretty content with their current direct-sales prices. Nvidia has no control over the cost of memory or the supplies of memory chips. They, and the AIBs, get what they get at whatever prices the memory companies demand that they pay.
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What nVidia is saying is in order to procure more memory so they can make more GPUs, they will need to pay more for said memory and thus MSRPs will increase as a result.

HP just announced on Thursday night that their prices will be increasing to cover the cost of higher memory. This is a big development as it’s an acknowledgement that high memory prices are the new norm and not temporary or “cyclical”.

mesyn191 said:
Fab space is limited and the same fabs that are used to produce the memory for smartphones etc. are used to produce GDDR5/6/etc.

Since the demand for memory in smartphones is so high and more profitable they're going to prioritize that over GDDR5/6/etc.

This situation probably won't change until the Chinese nationally funded fabs (they're spending something insane like $24 billion USD to build them, estimated spending is supposed to be around $70 billion USD by 2021) come online to start producing modern (ie. high cap/seed LPDDR4/3) smartphone memory en masse in early-mid 2019 or so.

At least that is what is rumored anyways. If there are delays getting those fabs up and running, or their supply gets bought up Chinese companies for their own products (don't laugh its a real possibility), or if things go incredibly right and they get up and running sooner that time table will change of course.
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China won’t produce competitive lastest gen memory until the 2030s. They are not the markets saviors unless you’re looking for super cheap, low performance Chinese gadgets.
 
I'm just shocked that the card prices did not crash once they started moving out of the bit coin sweet spot. Figured I'd wait for the 1080ti... and still using 580s in my boxes. Whoops. Prices for any of the 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, 8xx, 9xx, and 10xx cards are nuts. Got capacity for a water cooled card, but Christ alright, prices are messed up.
 
tetris42 said:
What brand?
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EVGA, unfortunately it was a gift and it was never registered for the lifetime warranty. I'll try contacting them, but I'm having trouble getting a copy of the receipt (the gifter is 87 years old and not good at keeping things). The card is less than 3 years old...so maybe. Never thought it would be a problem as I figured on a new card in 3-4 years anyway...who knew there would be such a long term shortage. Plus with volta coming out this year I'd rather not get a new card now. I'm hoping for really good single card 4k performance :)...but this statement from NVIDA means it's probably going to be in short supply too.
 
Comixbooks said:
I have no problem with cards raised prices. crypto currency though can rot in hell as worthless the stuff is. Cards used to be dirt cheap
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Come on now. Cards have been increasing like a boiled frog, they go up a bit each generation. When were they dirt cheap? Is $400-$700 MSRP dirt cheap? What dirt are you buying?

Hate Crypto all you want, my cards are all paid off and still making money. In school you were known as a "Crier Baby". Why be on the losing team?

So you are OK with increasing prices on cards, just not if the miners are causing it? Please explain, that makes absolutely no sense.
 
WhoMe said:
EVGA, unfortunately it was a gift and it was never registered for the lifetime warranty. I'll try contacting them, but I'm having trouble getting a copy of the receipt (the gifter is 87 years old and not good at keeping things). The card is less than 3 years old...so maybe. Never thought it would be a problem as I figured on a new card in 3-4 years anyway...who knew there would be such a long term shortage. Plus with volta coming out this year I'd rather not get a new card now. I'm hoping for really good single card 4k performance :)...but this statement from NVIDA means it's probably going to be in short supply too.
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I had an EVGA go bad on me after 4 years with visual artifacts. I had no idea they had a lifetime warranty, I'll have to look into that in the future since I like to use cards as long as I can until I'm obviously hurting in the majority of games out there.
 
WhoMe said:
EVGA, unfortunately it was a gift and it was never registered for the lifetime warranty. I'll try contacting them, but I'm having trouble getting a copy of the receipt (the gifter is 87 years old and not good at keeping things). The card is less than 3 years old...so maybe. Never thought it would be a problem as I figured on a new card in 3-4 years anyway...who knew there would be such a long term shortage. Plus with volta coming out this year I'd rather not get a new card now. I'm hoping for really good single card 4k performance :)...but this statement from NVIDA means it's probably going to be in short supply too.
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Did you OC your card? Interesting that it just died. It may be a one off, you may have gotten a card with some not so great capacitors or similar. Sure does pay to register the warranty. You did get 3 years out of it, that's quite a long time in computing.
 
heelix said:
I'm just shocked that the card prices did not crash once they started moving out of the bit coin sweet spot. Figured I'd wait for the 1080ti... and still using 580s in my boxes. Whoops. Prices for any of the 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, 8xx, 9xx, and 10xx cards are nuts. Got capacity for a water cooled card, but Christ alright, prices are messed up.
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They haven't moved out of the sweet spot for lots of coins that are not Bitcoin that are still profitable.

Also, there is plenty of news out there that says that all computing devices are going to cost more because they are using more RAM and there is a limited supply. For the uninitiated, when supply goes down prices go up.
 
ncjoe said:
this is a ploy to finally kill PC Gaming !
:nailbiting:
After all these years of pc gaming , I've done since the late 80's too ,it's
really disheartening to see this slow downward spiral for us ........
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Actually if anything it will insure improved video card will be released. If you remember during the last recession they didn't update GPUs beyond a refresh. The 290x was only a refresh to the 7970 and the 780 over the 680 for nvidia. This only hurts the lazy people that try to hold into their low end cards for 5 years.
 
triwolf said:
They haven't moved out of the sweet spot for lots of coins that are not Bitcoin that are still profitable.

Also, there is plenty of news out there that says that all computing devices are going to cost more because they are using more RAM and there is a limited supply. For the uninitiated, when supply goes down prices go up.
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High memory prices are here to stay. Too many new sources of demand that are increasing at rapid rates - AI, AV, cloud infrastructure, etc
 
triwolf said:
Did you OC your card? Interesting that it just died. It may be a one off, you may have gotten a card with some not so great capacitors or similar. Sure does pay to register the warranty. You did get 3 years out of it, that's quite a long time in computing.
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Only the factory OC it came with. I got 2.4 years out of it. But like I said I figured to get a card two generations later...if it had lasted a full three years, and no mining craze, that would be great...but the current prices are just out of site for me right now. I think a 1070 would be about the same speed but those are about what I paid for this card, depressing.

The good news is turns out the original purchaser got it from Amazon (he couldn't remember so I had him check)...so armed with a receipt hopefully it will get repaired. It showed no signs of overheating. Literally smoked when it went out. But I'd been having some boot problems lately and though it's only been a few hours they seem to have gone away. The computer won't boot at all now with this card plugged in...so it's been on the way out for awhile I just didn't know what was causing the problem.

Just a month ago I was wondering if it would be worth selling my 770, but decided to keep it as a spare, glad I did...especially since x99 has no on board video.
 
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