Micron 1100 2TB SSD $254

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Well, installed the ssd this weekend, cloned the original C:\ drive to it using Acronis Disk Tools, rebooted, and the OS is still seeing the WD drive as primary. Then, after unplugging the WD and rebooting, I get a light-blue screen after login and "setting up your desktop", with the "Windows is not genuine" message in the corner, no desktop, no start menu nothing, unable to do anything. Plug in the original drive, and it boots normally. Unplug the SSD, won't boot.

I am confused. Please help.
 
Be sure everything is stock, and that swap is moved back onto the C drive, then clone it over. Once the clone is done unplug ALL other drives in the system, go into BIOS and set the SSD as the default boot drive. You might have to reactivate the install of windows, as it's very possible the activation servers have seen two installs for the same key. Often times doing the call in activation will fix this, it will ask you to read off a long set of numbers and then input a long set of numbers, after which it will ask how many computers this key is installed on, to which you answer "ONE".
 
BlueFireIce said:
Be sure everything is stock, and that swap is moved back onto the C drive, then clone it over. Once the clone is done unplug ALL other drives in the system, go into BIOS and set the SSD as the default boot drive. You might have to reactivate the install of windows, as it's very possible the activation servers have seen two installs for the same key. Often times doing the call in activation will fix this, it will ask you to read off a long set of numbers and then input a long set of numbers, after which it will ask how many computers this key is installed on, to which you answer "ONE".
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That means wiping the SSD, which I'm fine with. I'd rather start over. Problem is, I can't boot to the original drive for some reason.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try it out.
 
Big_Rig_Stig said:
That means wiping the SSD, which I'm fine with. I'd rather start over. Problem is, I can't boot to the original drive for some reason.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try it out.
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What are your BIOS settings, when booting from the WD do you have any other drives installed?
 
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BlueFireIce said:
What are your BIOS settings, when booting from the WD do you have any other drives installed?
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I have three total drives: WD Black 1TB (C:\), Samsung 1TB data, and an old 250GB WD. All were set to IDE, I can't remember why except that maybe I couldn't get Windows to run with them set to AHCI (I built this rig 10 years ago, mind you, and the Black went in at least 5 years ago). I used Acronis to clone from the Black to the SSD, so the SSD was set to IDE as well. I've never had any problems with any of the drives (hell, the 250GB drive was the original boot drive in 2008) running together. It's just after doing the clone, something's gone haywire, and with the SSD disconnected, Windows won't boot, I get a message that there's no OS on the drive.
 
Big_Rig_Stig said:
It's just after doing the clone, something's gone haywire, and with the SSD disconnected, Windows won't boot, I get a message that there's no OS on the drive.
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Sounds like the boot manager got installed on the SSD, at least part of it.
 
Big_Rig_Stig said:
I have three total drives: WD Black 1TB (C:\), Samsung 1TB data, and an old 250GB WD. All were set to IDE, I can't remember why except that maybe I couldn't get Windows to run with them set to AHCI (I built this rig 10 years ago, mind you, and the Black went in at least 5 years ago). I used Acronis to clone from the Black to the SSD, so the SSD was set to IDE as well. I've never had any problems with any of the drives (hell, the 250GB drive was the original boot drive in 2008) running together. It's just after doing the clone, something's gone haywire, and with the SSD disconnected, Windows won't boot, I get a message that there's no OS on the drive.
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What mobo? What windows? Can you show screens of the drives with them all installed and a screen of what you are seeing with just the SSD?
 
BlueFireIce said:
What mobo? What windows? Can you show screens of the drives with them all installed and a screen of what you are seeing with just the SSD?
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Mobo: ASUS P6T Deluxe X58
Windows 7 Ultimate X64
Screens: I'll get them tomorrow. You want BIOS, System Management, or both?
 
FWIW, this drive is only 388 right now. I know not as good as 360, but still seems like a decent price. Just not in the market for a 2TB drive. Now if that Samsung 4TB was 800, I'd jump on it.
 
nilepez said:
FWIW, this drive is only 388 right now. I know not as good as 360, but still seems like a decent price. Just not in the market for a 2TB drive. Now if that Samsung 4TB was 800, I'd jump on it.
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Is it a better deal at $388 than the drive I liked above for $369? I'm having a hard time comparing the two (can't find specs on the micron).
 
Justintoxicated said:
Is it a better deal at $388 than the drive I liked above for $369? I'm having a hard time comparing the two (can't find specs on the micron).
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I'm seeing your Mushkin link priced at $469, and the Micron at $388 now. I'd pull the trigger on the Micron now IIWY.
 
leezard said:
Sounds like the boot manager got installed on the SSD, at least part of it.
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Yah, or some other dumbassery I've pulled out of my butt without realizing it. :confused:

Looking at this link here, I'm thinking the tool I used (Acronis) is shit for SSDs, and I need something else. I really don't want to do a full reinstall, and I'm moving about 650gigs over to the SSD, so space isn't the issue.

I think that I will roll back Windows to before the SSD, make sure it'll boot with the WH, then try again with clonezilla; and, if that fails, try Paragon Migrate, and hope for the best.
 
Big_Rig_Stig said:
Yah, or some other dumbassery I've pulled out of my butt without realizing it. :confused:

Looking at this link here, I'm thinking the tool I used (Acronis) is shit for SSDs, and I need something else. I really don't want to do a full reinstall, and I'm moving about 650gigs over to the SSD, so space isn't the issue.

I think that I will roll back Windows to before the SSD, make sure it'll boot with the WH, then try again with clonezilla; and, if that fails, try Paragon Migrate, and hope for the best.
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Use this, just be careful of adware during the install (not sure if they are still doing that). It will correctly align your partition going from non-SSD to SSD and it is super easy to use and it's free.
https://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html
 
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Big_Rig_Stig said:
Yah, or some other dumbassery I've pulled out of my butt without realizing it. :confused:

Looking at this link here, I'm thinking the tool I used (Acronis) is shit for SSDs, and I need something else. I really don't want to do a full reinstall, and I'm moving about 650gigs over to the SSD, so space isn't the issue.

I think that I will roll back Windows to before the SSD, make sure it'll boot with the WH, then try again with clonezilla; and, if that fails, try Paragon Migrate, and hope for the best.
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Are you using the WD version? WD has a cloning tool, and it works fine with SSD's.
 
Big_Rig_Stig said:
I believe it is the WD version, but I could be wrong.
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Should not be any issues with an SSD then, just make sure no other drives are plugged in other than the drive you are cloning and the drive you are cloning to.
 
Sherloc09 said:
As an FYI to everyone, these are available on Ebay and other sites for closer to the $360 price.

https://serverpartdeals.com/micron-...MIlP_8sJ282QIVWrjACh0nxQmFEAYYASABEgIPjPD_BwE

Thanks.
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Yea I'm just more hesitant to buy off ebay, there's some for $385 on amazon, which isn't much more and you get it in 2 days.
Then again none of these really have a warranty right?

My Plan to transfer my current drive is to remove the existing one, and pop in the new one. Then PXE boot boot to my home server and let it restore from a backup over the network. Always good to test backup and restore is working. It's saved me many time now.
 
Justintoxicated said:
Yea I'm just more hesitant to buy off ebay, there's some for $385 on amazon, which isn't much more and you get it in 2 days.
Then again none of these really have a warranty right?

My Plan to transfer my current drive is to remove the existing one, and pop in the new one. Then PXE boot boot to my home server and let it restore from a backup over the network. Always good to test backup and restore is working. It's saved me many time now.
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They state on the Amazon page the 3 yr warranty applies. Micron has two types, one is direct through Micron, the other (this one) is though the seller to Micron. So if any issues come up, you send back to the seller who deals with Micron.
 
BlueFireIce said:
They state on the Amazon page the 3 yr warranty applies. Micron has two types, one is direct through Micron, the other (this one) is though the seller to Micron. So if any issues come up, you send back to the seller who deals with Micron.
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Right, and that kinda sucks (sending back to some amazon seller or ebay seller). I ordered the $385 version anyways. Tired of my HD being full on my laptop. Grated this probably won't be usable in my next laptop since most of them are NVME these days. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LB05TOO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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still wondering about performance..

there aren't any reviews. One thing ive read is that they are the slowest SSDs and are used at enterprises. another thing I read is that they are almost 850 evo level of performance, and a 3rd is that they perform slower in NFTS than exFAT.

nothing really concrete. I'd love a near samsung level of SSD performance and would get one if i knew what it really performed like...
 
DF-1 said:
still wondering about performance..

there aren't any reviews. One thing ive read is that they are the slowest SSDs and are used at enterprises. another thing I read is that they are almost 850 evo level of performance, and a 3rd is that they perform slower in NFTS than exFAT.

nothing really concrete. I'd love a near samsung level of SSD performance and would get one if i knew what it really performed like...
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I read it's slower than the evo 850 and most places rated it down for the price. But thats when they were like $200+ for the 256gb too. It's not the fastest SSD by a long shot but it sure is allot of space and depeding on you use it probably won't be that noticable? It's going into my X220 which is ridiculous for a really old laptop. Buy hey, I just shoved 16GB of ram into it too so why not! When I get a new laptop it will probably go into a desktop as a storage drive. Then I can get rid of the primitive spinney disk drives I have in it too. The way I see it was that I didn't want to work out another $200+ for a samsung.
 
DF-1 said:
still wondering about performance..

there aren't any reviews. One thing ive read is that they are the slowest SSDs and are used at enterprises. another thing I read is that they are almost 850 evo level of performance, and a 3rd is that they perform slower in NFTS than exFAT.

nothing really concrete. I'd love a near samsung level of SSD performance and would get one if i knew what it really performed like...
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They are on the slow side, they are an enterprise class SSD. We buy them by the case for use at the DC. (literally 1000's of servers here with a mixture of the 1TB and 2TB Micron 1100 drives)
 
leezard said:
They are on the slow side, they are an enterprise class SSD. We buy them by the case for use at the DC. (literally 1000's of servers here with a mixture of the 1TB and 2TB Micron 1100 drives)
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any idea how slow? slightly better than a hdd? 60% of a 840/850 evo? i want to get a real large ssd and stop the spinners
 
DF-1 said:
any idea how slow? slightly better than a hdd? 60% of a 840/850 evo? i want to get a real large ssd and stop the spinners
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Significantly faster than a spinner, slower than an evo but I wouldn't hazard a guess to how much slower.
 
DF-1 said:
any idea how slow? slightly better than a hdd? 60% of a 840/850 evo? i want to get a real large ssd and stop the spinners
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It's a large SSD that's inexpensive for its size. Better than a spinner for sure. Seems a few people have purchased these by now, I'm surprised no one here has benched one either by itself or alongside a Samsung/Crucial for comparison.

Anyway, check these out and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised:

https://www.nikktech.com/main/artic...tate-drives/7138-micron-1100-256gb-ssd-review

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/mini-review-on-the-micron-1100-ssd.2536625/
 
I almost on a Samsung PM863 but someone outbid me for $426 dang! Ok so looking at these benchmarks it's fast enough for a SATA SSD, as in I don't think I would notice much of a difference between this and a sata EVO 850.
https://www.nikktech.com/main/artic...micron-1100-256gb-ssd-review?showall=&start=5 Of course it's not a great comparison since the sata evo 850 is twice the size and should have better performance.

even if the drive was 20% slower it would be worth it to have double the space at this price point?

edit: You beat me to it! ^
 
BlueFireIce said:
They state on the Amazon page the 3 yr warranty applies. Micron has two types, one is direct through Micron, the other (this one) is though the seller to Micron. So if any issues come up, you send back to the seller who deals with Micron.
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That's why I pulled the trigger on Amazon's 3-yr protection plan, cheap insurance for sure.
 
Justintoxicated said:
I read it's slower than the evo 850 and most places rated it down for the price. But thats when they were like $200+ for the 256gb too. It's not the fastest SSD by a long shot but it sure is allot of space and depeding on you use it probably won't be that noticable? It's going into my X220 which is ridiculous for a really old laptop. Buy hey, I just shoved 16GB of ram into it too so why not! When I get a new laptop it will probably go into a desktop as a storage drive. Then I can get rid of the primitive spinney disk drives I have in it too. The way I see it was that I didn't want to work out another $200+ for a samsung.
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Consider that Micron drive on an old X58 platform... It'll feel like lightning on crack when I get it running...
 
Decided to jump on one of these 2TB Micron 1100's. Saw some new ones on eBay for $359. I have been pleased with my 750GB Crucial MX300 and from what I understand the Crucial and Micron share 3D NAND and controllers so I imagine performance will be close. Just wanted more space for games and I think this will fit the bill nicely.
 
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Justintoxicated said:
I almost on a Samsung PM863 but someone outbid me for $426 dang! Ok so looking at these benchmarks it's fast enough for a SATA SSD, as in I don't think I would notice much of a difference between this and a sata EVO 850.
https://www.nikktech.com/main/artic...micron-1100-256gb-ssd-review?showall=&start=5 Of course it's not a great comparison since the sata evo 850 is twice the size and should have better performance.

even if the drive was 20% slower it would be worth it to have double the space at this price point?

edit: You beat me to it! ^
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It's spitting distance of the evo, and some buyer reviews who have both drives seem to get almost exactly the same throughput on them. In desktop use, you are NEVER going to tell between the two unless you open a benching program and see. I have a number of SanDisk cheapo SSDs in some rigs and then a MX300 1TB, a few 1TB evos etc etc most of which have cycled through my main gaming rig at some point before it got the 1TB evos. Day to day, gaming, photoshop, video editing etc etc I can not tell the difference between any of them, and my server that's running a M500 SSD actually boots about 1 second faster than my gaming rig that has the evo, even though the evo on paper should be faster. As such I have given up on looking at which new SSD is a bit faster, you are never going to notice in normal use unless you are running some database etc, at which point it would be worth investing into a NVMe drive.
 
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