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depends on what you paid for it.Just purchased another 1080 Ti for gaming, had a MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X sold because could not deny the resale value. Picked a EVGA FTW3 1080 Ti still within return period, should I return/sell and wait for next gen Nvidia GPU since possibly so close?
Keep in mind both miners and people wanting to upgrade their old cards are going to go crazy for the new series, so it will likely surge the prices up and make it hard to get the cards. When the GTX 1080 was released there was high demand that led to shortages for months, that was even without factoring in the mining craze.
EVGA has their 90 day step up period https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/. Personally I would wait but if you need a GPU then I'd hedge my bets with EVGA using step up.
depends on what you paid for it.
This is true :/
I've thought about this as well just don't know if this will be an option because time constraints... card is almost 2 weeks old leaves 2 weeks for return (otherwise sell while value still high) and leaves 2 1/2 month for "step-up" which i don't think is enough time.
About $850 - profit from previous 1080 Ti
Just purchased another 1080 Ti for gaming, had a MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X sold because could not deny the resale value. Picked a EVGA FTW3 1080 Ti still within return period, should I return/sell and wait for next gen Nvidia GPU since possibly so close?
You are far to optimistic, sorry to say.Probably worth just keeping if you are going to use it for gaming. Remember that nVidia's strategy with GPUs lately has been that when they launch a new series, they don't launch a very high end part, except for an overpriced Titan. The high-end Ti card comes later. It isn't likely that the 1180 or 2080 or whatever the hell it ends up being called will be much faster than a 1080Ti, and there's nothing that a 1080Ti doesn't just destroy these days.
I mean what's the point in getting a gaming rig, only to not get to use it for gaming for months on end because you are after the next best thing and don't have a card to use? That's the reason I haven't sold my 1080Ti at an inflated price: I am using it to play games and it does that REALLY well. I'm not interested in getting some cash only to have to hold it for an indeterminate amount of months before I can game again. My play time is worth far more than that.
Excellent postProbably worth just keeping if you are going to use it for gaming. Remember that nVidia's strategy with GPUs lately has been that when they launch a new series, they don't launch a very high end part, except for an overpriced Titan. The high-end Ti card comes later. It isn't likely that the 1180 or 2080 or whatever the hell it ends up being called will be much faster than a 1080Ti, and there's nothing that a 1080Ti doesn't just destroy these days.
I mean what's the point in getting a gaming rig, only to not get to use it for gaming for months on end because you are after the next best thing and don't have a card to use? That's the reason I haven't sold my 1080Ti at an inflated price: I am using it to play games and it does that REALLY well. I'm not interested in getting some cash only to have to hold it for an indeterminate amount of months before I can game again. My play time is worth far more than that.
You had plenty of opportunity over the last six month to sell that 1070 for $700 and buy a 1080 or 1080ti. Still could.yes indeed Sycraft.. Ive found my self doing exactly that. Im still kicking myself for buying a 1070 instead of a 1080 but I didnt want to spend that much money .... now sure wish I did.
but Ill keep this 1070 till things get more reasonable.. besides will take me some time to save up enough to get a 1080 or whatever may be available ie next gen.
Adding my 2c, in 25 years in the market, I've never seen a situation like this. Used recent cards are reselling for 20% over MSRP - insane. What's very likely going to happen is, shortly, nv and and are gong to bifurcate their card lines: one for crypto (a crypto-tesla, if you will), another for gaming. They can't afford to alienate the gaming market, and there's gold in them there crypto hills (at least for the time being).
In summary, I've decided I can live with 1080p/1440p gaming for a few months. I just sold both my 1080 tis for £750 ($1100) and picked up a used 780 ti for $200. I had bought the 1080 tis last year for $700 a piece... an $800 total profit on used cards.
I'll step up when either a) amphere arrives, or b) the crypto market stabilizes or falls out and will have earned some cash.
Kinda impossible to make seperate mining and gaming cards with the current design of CUDA cores FYI.
Kinda impossible to make seperate mining and gaming cards with the current design of CUDA cores FYI.
That's not gonna happen, at least anytime soon.They could lock the bios and drivers so that mining is not an option with the gaming card. They can make it clear that you can't use these cards for mining and that they are for gaming only.
They could lock the bios and drivers so that mining is not an option with the gaming card. They can make it clear that you can't use these cards for mining and that they are for gaming only. I think it's time that they start making separate skus for each class of card. One mining sku, one gaming sku, and one workstation sku (already have this).
From a market stability standpoint this makes total sense. nV (and AMD) can't risk damaging their core market. Moreover, they already do this by default with the Quattro and Telsa lines.
That said, they may not segment the lines and ride the current crypto tide. What's assured in any case is there's a team of analysts who have been looking at short-term profit vs. impact of crypto fallout i.e what happens when crypto crashes (or stabilizes) and there are less PC gamers and a flood of cards hitting the secondary market
I don't think so. WIth more and more people holding off on making part purchases because they can't afford a video card. More manufacturers are going to start putting major pressure on Nvidia and AMD to fix things. I think it going to happen soon than later. When motherboards, cases and stuff like that are not selling because nobody is building it will hurt Nvidia and AMD too. I had to use NXZT bld to get my wife a new PC. I couldn't afford to get her an 1080. When the 1080 was nearly the whole budget.
They could lock the bios and drivers so that mining is not an option with the gaming card. They can make it clear that you can't use these cards for mining and that they are for gaming only. I think it's time that they start making separate skus for each class of card. One mining sku, one gaming sku, and one workstation sku (already have this).
What do they care about their core base. It is like we have anywhere else to go to for cards. Nvidia and AMD know this. Expect on Nvidia and AMD end to start upping the MSRP on their next gen. For years I could go to a Best buy and see shelves full of GPUs. Now they are bare and been like that for 6 months. They would be cutting themselves off at their knees with their revenue by making a separate line for miners. For ever miner card they make it is 1 gamer card taking off the production line that will proabably have higher profit margin s at this time. Yes it will hurt them later cause when this mining bubble pops there will be a whole shit ton of cheap high end used cards flooding the market but I am sure Nvidia has done the research and took it all in consideration. You forget Nvidia is branching off I a lot of different market and soon the gamer market might not matter as much to them.That's the rub: retailers are moving card at extortionate prices, just not to their core market. While retailers are much more likely to be in it for a fast buck (and can rise/drop their prices on a whim), nV and AMD are in it for the long game and don't want to erode their core base. This is why they will likely segment the lines... But not until they let resellers have their fun.
It's unfortunate that the same tool is being used to both hammer nails and shovel dirt, but that's where we are.
What do they care about their core base. It is like we have anywhere else to go to for cards. Nvidia and AMD know this. Expect on Nvidia and AMD end to start upping the MSRP on their next gen. For years I could go to a Best buy and see shelves full of GPUs. Now they are bare and been like that for 6 months. They would be cutting themselves off at their knees with their revenue by making a separate line for miners. For ever miner card they make it is 1 gamer card taking off the production line that will proabably have higher profit margin s at this time. Yes it will hurt them later cause when this mining bubble pops there will be a whole shit ton of cheap high end used cards flooding the market but I am sure Nvidia has done the research and took it all in consideration. You forget Nvidia is branching off I a lot of different market and soon the gamer market might not matter as much to them.