APU-Based 1080p Gaming Becomes a Reality with AMD’s Ryzen 5 2400G

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Due to a retail slip-up, tech YouTuber SonofaTech received his AMD Ryzen 5 2400G early and proceeded with a 10-hour live test to demonstrate the chip’s ability to run newer titles in 1080p at appreciable framerates. It did particularly well with games such as Overwatch (1080p, high preset, up to 70 FPS) and Dirt Rally (1080p, medium preset, average 57 FPS).

The fact that Overwatch is now playable at 1080p/60FPS on a freaking APU is impressive. As is Dirt Rally staying above the 1080p/30FPS mark on Ultra settings. From where I sit, this chip will be a compelling gateway into PC gaming for first-time builders, especially with a wide range of dedicated graphics cards from AMD and NVIDIA at an all-time high.
 
What's the ROI.... wonder if it will do auto crossfire like the current APU's will do. Pair this with 4 AMD GPU's and watch it mine!!!!
 
Pretty impressed so far. Looking forward to trying one out at home for sure. This is perfectly timed with the Gpu shenanigans we are living with. These will fly off the shelves.
 
Hopefully these stay a reasonable price and I can build a new SteamMachine.
 
Nolan7689 said:
So maybe the next round of consoles will finally be able to hit 1080@60.

Naaah.
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It would be nice if they made an APU that matched the One X specs. This chip is about One S level performance. Still, it will be useful for me.
 
It's good that we can now quote customers a good enough system with just CPU, MB, RAM, CASE, PSU and M.2 SSD. for super cheap that WILL play today's games, and play them well. For a new system, nothing much comes close in price with the same performance.
 
KazeoHin said:
It's good that we can now quote customers a good enough system with just CPU, MB, RAM, CASE, PSU and M.2 SSD. for super cheap that WILL play today's games, and play them well. For a new system, nothing much comes close in price with the same performance.
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Big savings on powersupplies and graphics cards mostly, if smart good B350 boards or A320 for the non enthusiast can cut system costs down by a very substantial amount.
 
trentchau said:
While it wasn't main stream. The 5775c did pretty good 1080p on chip gpu
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I said when Iris came out, while it was good in terms of opening up bandwidth, it was doomed to failure due to cost and the price Intel needed to slap onto it to make up for losses. This is probably why Intel went with Multi chip design with AMD hardware instead of coupling sub standard GPU with a HBM module.
 
EchoWars said:
If history is any indication, they'll sell for under MSRP within months of release.

I don't see why not.

I'm awaiting the 6-core APU. I hope that one is planned.
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Except history didn't have cryptocurrency mining driving up prices across the board for as long as we are currently seeing. The first mining bubble impacts were largely limited to just AMD GPUs, and burst in a matter of months.
 
OrangeKhrush said:
Big savings on powersupplies and graphics cards mostly, if smart good B350 boards or A320 for the non enthusiast can cut system costs down by a very substantial amount.
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also opens the door for prebuilds since cost to profit ratio is key for them.. being able to throw an apu with a 20-30 dollar psu and 30-40 dollar motherboard while charging 500+ makes way more sense for them.
 
Anarchist4000 said:
Still waiting for one with HBM2 that isn't Intel.
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You cannot include HBM on the AM4 platform, they'd have to launch an entirely new socket for something along those lines unless they manage to pack the hbm on an AM4 package which is Highly unlikely.

you may see it in 2020 for desktops
 
ole-m said:
You cannot include HBM on the AM4 platform, they'd have to launch an entirely new socket for something along those lines unless they manage to pack the hbm on an AM4 package which is Highly unlikely.

you may see it in 2020 for desktops
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Also it is'nt like Intel are shipping this super APU to standard desktop, it is a custom solution designed for a single purpose.
 
ole-m said:
You cannot include HBM on the AM4 platform, they'd have to launch an entirely new socket for something along those lines unless they manage to pack the hbm on an AM4 package which is Highly unlikely.

you may see it in 2020 for desktops
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Why stick with AM4 when they can just embed it for SFF? TR4 should work, although some memory channels may be lost. AM4 might work if done with the understanding no memory channels will be available. Really needs an entirely different chip though, not accounting for graphics.
 
Anarchist4000 said:
Why stick with AM4 when they can just embed it for SFF? TR4 should work, although some memory channels may be lost. AM4 might work if done with the understanding no memory channels will be available. Really needs an entirely different chip though, not accounting for graphics.
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Or give TR4 a quadchannel memory controller and use it for the apu, well I don't think it's really viable as APU's are cost effective and not seeking ultimate effeciency.
Messing up the TR4 socket with incompatibility and such is bad in itself and the motherboards are not cheap due to the amount of pins and traces for the PCB.

The only viable solution is a HBM-Cpu chip where the majority of complexity is in the cpu pcb and that requires a little bit of space and another VRM for the hbm on the motherboard.

Adding an extra layer to motherboards is not cheap and is the reason why ITX boards are rare for ryzen cause it's already a complex socket compared to LGA115x as am4 was a bit of a pain for em and in ITX even worse.

I believe they will do it, but I don't think they are willing to do it now but Amd and Nvidia have surprised me quite a few times lately so I wouldn't say for certain :)
 
Megalith said:
Due to a retail slip-up, tech YouTuber SonofaTech received his AMD Ryzen 5 2400G early and proceeded with a 10-hour live test to demonstrate the chip’s ability to run newer titles in 1080p at appreciable framerates. It did particularly well with games such as Overwatch (1080p, high preset, up to 70 FPS) and Dirt Rally (1080p, medium preset, average 57 FPS).

The fact that Overwatch is now playable at 1080p/60FPS on a freaking APU is impressive. As is Dirt Rally staying above the 1080p/30FPS mark on Ultra settings. From where I sit, this chip will be a compelling gateway into PC gaming for first-time builders, especially with a wide range of dedicated graphics cards from AMD and NVIDIA at an all-time high.
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Not bad but like all APU, performance highly depends on RAM speed and still by comparison is hugely bottlenecked because of that. Given the cost of higher clocked RAM, one might as well put a discreet GPU. Even a lower end one will yield better performance. Perhaps only redeeming thing is doing Crossfire with APU and discreet AMD graphics card to get some added boost to a low end video card. It's still pretty far from being a 1080p gamer for modern games and even many older ones. Though for a basic gamer and maybe emulators this may be decent.
 
Well, I promised that when AMD turned the corner with Zen AND came out with their new APU that I'd support them in the way of dollars, as my HTPCs need a refresh.
So...being a man of my word....in for 3.
 
After years of making APU's we finally have one's that are good enough for casual/entry level gaming and still fast enough that if you add a gpu you won't be CPU bottlenecked the whole time.
 
Do these chips have a burn out flaw? I was reading some of the comments on the AMD newest chips just burn out.
 
EchoWars said:
If history is any indication, they'll sell for under MSRP within months of release..............
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Not unless you are ignoring recent history.

Look, products don't sell for "what they can be sold for" as in, I can sell it for this, because I only have this in it.

Products sell for what they will sell for, which means as long as GPU prices remain high, APU prices will snuggle right up underneath.
 
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