Windows 10 S Is Dead, Long Live S Mode

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This was briefly mentioned in the article about new SKUs, but Windows 10 S is officially no more: being that many users prefer the full OS, Microsoft is reducing S from a SKU to a mode within all iterations of Windows 10.

Here is the odd part about this change; Microsoft says that there will be AV/Security apps in S mode. Does this mean that traditional AV software from third-party companies will run in S mode? If so, doesn’t this break the entire premise of what S mode is supposed to be and undercuts the performance aspect of the mode?
 
in before the conspiracy theories fly. No, MS is not going to suddenly turn everyone's Windows 10 computer into a store only OS.
 
Good...Windows RT was a terrible idea then, and it's a terrible idea now.
 
in before the conspiracy theories fly. No, MS is not going to suddenly turn everyone's Windows 10 computer into a store only OS.

You're right, they aren't. But is it really such a stretch to imagine that they might try (again)?
 
wanna bet that some features will start disapearing from the regular OS then suddenly showing up in S mode ?
slowly but surely M$ will get what they wanted from the start...
 
This will be normie mode W10. Win32 will move to Win10 Pro, $200 or a subscription.
 
Why doesn't MS just give up already and give people what they want. Good grief.
 
Good this SKU was an absolute disaster in the making. The mode if find for some school or something that wants those types of limits.

Also someone should tell MS that the lean startup is for startup products not the largest most established OS on earth.
 
Good this mode was an absolute disaster in the making.

Not entirely, if MS had actually accomplished something with the Windows Store, beyond play anywhere games, S would have worked well. However, they sat on it and as a result, RT and S were a failure out of the gate.
 
So, you are saying that if they just produce another Windows 7, desktops will start flying off the shelves?

I think some people aren't being realistic about the PC market. If Windows 10 were just a "true" update of Windows 7 I doubt it would have any impact on the number of new PCs sold or that people would start buying lots more retail copies of Windows 10.
 
So, you are saying that if they just produce another Windows 7, desktops will start flying off the shelves?

What he appears to be saying is that Microsoft should just give people what they want, rather than what Microsoft thinks is most profitable. He didn't appear to imply anything about the sales of desktop computers. o_O
 
What he appears to be saying is that Microsoft should just give people what they want, rather than what Microsoft thinks is most profitable.

The thing is when it comes to something as old and complex as Windows there's no simple answer to what people want. A desktop only Windows basically blows up a lot of the capability of 2 in 1 devices. I think that Microsoft should to more in delivery classic desktop features like a better File Explorer, etc. But I am a HUGE supporter of the hybrid approach because it works across different form factors pretty well.
 
That's gotta be the shortest lived OS that M$ has ever had!

It didn't go anywhere, they just made is so that any version can be S. It always made no sense that if S was targeted largely at consumers, but if they needed more they got the high end version and had to pay for it.

Also considering per the article 60% of people stuck with S, it kind of isn't a failure isn't it?
 
So, you are saying that if they just produce another Windows 7, desktops will start flying off the shelves?

There was a huge paradigm shift between 7 & 10. People don't want to go back to Windows 7. There are a lot of things with Windows 10 that go against what made previous OS's great. I think a lot of it comes to having the user in control. With Windows 7, the user could turn off things they didn't want. With Windows 10, you have to go to extremes to turn them off and even then - an update would bring them right back.

Windows 10 took the user out of the drivers seat. I can see the reasoning (too many unpatched systems, machines breaking, etc.), but for the power user it gave them the shaft.

I love Windows 10 and use it on all my machines. I'm in the Insider program and give plenty of feedback. I have a lot of fun with Windows 10. I don't want Windows 7. However, having that freedom in Windows 7 and before was great. That's what I would like to see. And, that's been some of my feedback - let the user decide. And with some things, they have changed to that way. Other things, they won't budge.
 
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