Samsung Building Mining Chips

Appreciate it James. I had already signed up on EVGA's site. Still waiting. Yeah, I have hang up about used computer gear. That's on me.
 
How is this different from all the USB powered ASIC miners people have been using for years?
 
heatlesssun said:
What's wrong with buying used GPUs? While I get the speculative flipping that's going on now gamers have long used reselling to help offset costs and to help others get lower pricing on good if not current tech.
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Buying a used GPUs from miners allows them to recover some cost and continue the shortage.
Tax the fuck out of cryptocurrency and never buy GPUs from big miners. That's how you stop the shortage.
Since you can't tell if it was from a hobby miner or a warehouse full of farming miners, you just don't buy used. The more you off set their cost to mine, the more you encourage the mother fuckers.

Don't buy used. Write your congressmen about larger taxes on cryptocurrency.
 
BSmith said:
The one argument I keep hearing from miners is there is no value in this hardware if the cryptocrazed maket crashes, where a GPU can be sold to recoup some of the investment.

I hope Samsung, and others, are successfull getting those into the market. I want a video card,...damn it!
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This is factual. There is also ASICs going obsolete due to A. difficulty increases B. Superior models C. inability to do any other task. GPUs do have several other functions, so they will always rule as far as resale value.
 
James21 said:
If you just want 1 card for yourself, I've had good luck with the EVGA website & just got in one of the Hybrid 1080Ti cards today that I was notified of.
Sign up for e-mail notifications for each of the cards you might want to get and watch your e-mail like a hawk and be ready to buy & check out that moment that you get an e-mail.

If you have to buy NEW only, then I don't expect the prices to go down much at all, but if you don't mind buying used, there will probably be a bunch of much cheaper 1080 and 1080Ti cards in 2 months from gamers who will be selling their old cards to pay for the new generation. (like me).
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So you're telling me that if etherium (or anything GPU profitable) prices are still high when you sell your card, you'd sell it below market price here on the Hardforum? I really have a hard time believing that.
 
prtzlboy said:
So you're telling me that if etherium (or anything GPU profitable) prices are still high when you sell your card, you'd sell it below market price here on the Hardforum? I really have a hard time believing that.
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"Market price" isn't exactly a hard line, some people aren't trying to squeeze every last dollar out of sale.
 
Bitcoin is kind of ASIC resistant currently as you need A LOT of hashing power to even make it worthwhile and to use GPU for that purpose has long been worthless, some types of crypto to make ASIC specific for that purpose makes the resulting ASIC very expensive, this is why GPU have been more available for this purpose

other cryptos "suffer" because the more they are mined the less and less performance any graphics card can effectively mine them at, so they are by nature self defeating. I quite wish the law makers would take into account that A it costs hardware, B it costs power etc so is not a "clear" profit, but they all have greedy hands.

IMO to blame gpu shortage on crypto hashing alone is not taking into account every other use gpu have for all market sectors professional or otherwise, it is not only "gamers" that use gaming graphics cards, am sure a gaming grade graphics card is far more potent an alternative compared to many igp or "business" class graphics, I guess it is up to the makers themselves to have a more dedicated focus on gaming graphics cards (likely easily enough done via drivers alone) kind of like not many years ago if you were to use certain types of software you had to have a "pro" card which had specific drivers for it as well, why then could there not be a kind of sideline to this that by the software on the graphics card itself they are "locked" for gaming use type deal?

Hashing is specific function of the code, drivers, hardware etc, I quite liked the fact that Radeons always were potent no matter the task you wanted them for, however it really sucks when you want to buy a new one and the available ones are much much more expensive than they should be because of limited stock which ensures price gouging insted of being the MSRP/MSEP they should be :mad:
 
prtzlboy said:
So you're telling me that if etherium (or anything GPU profitable) prices are still high when you sell your card, you'd sell it below market price here on the Hardforum? I really have a hard time believing that.
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I probably wouldn't sell them here, too much hassle and whining.
I'll probably sell it on eBay for whatever the going market rate is for used cards at the time. If the market dictates a lower or higher price that's what it is.


I have no idea what the market will be like for used 1080 and 1080Ti cards once the new ones come out, but I do expect the overall market price for them to be lower than they are now, especially if the new cards game / mine faster.

Now if someone I knew locally wanted to buy one and pay cash (actual cash) and take the card & be done, then I'd give them a much better deal as I don't have to deal with several different middlemen all adding their own fees and risk, as well as shipping & packing etc.
 
BSmith said:
The large company I mentioned has an engineering department which needs high end video cards to use with thier 4K monitors for CAD work. And no they cannot get them directly as they have been told there is a very long lead time (months) to get them. They got away from OEM computers becuase every system seemed to be a compromise of some sort. However, they may look again.

I cannot find a 1080 for under $1,000.00. That is, at least, $300.00 higher than it should be. I want a 1080Ti class of card becuase I would like to get into the VR market.

Then there is the stupid RAM prices, which is not entirely miners fault. At least, I do not think it is.
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I am kicking myself for not buying 1070 Tis in December...
 
Silentbob343 said:
I am kicking myself for not buying 1070 Tis in December...
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Me too. I should have seen the problem coming. I put it off as a fad, and now I am paying the price for it. Yeah,...works on sooooo many levels, and not in a good way.
 
The average market prices for new cards on the various market places are slowly going down a bit, probably about $30 to $50 or so less than about a week ago depending on the card.
 
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