Overwatch League Pro Suspended for Homophobic Insult against Opponent

Guys,

This happened during a professional event. Just because you can say shit online (which would, btw, get your ass banned if caught) doesn't mean it has any place in a professional setting. These people are getting paid. They have sponsors. If I was a sponsor I wouldn't want some snot-nosed kid tarnishing my name.
 
If eSports wants to be taken seriously at all, they will need to outright ban trash talk entirely.
The line "rolled and smoked" is trash talk.

Trash talk is "disrespectful behavior" and is not present in all other sports at the professional level.
I am pretty sure if any other professional athlete used "rolled and smoked", at a sporting event they are competing in, they will lose sponsorship and maybe even fined.

Sponsors and sporting associations generally don't want to be associated with assholes.
 
k' guys teh video games are now a safe space... so keep all yo microaggressions in check..


I would have if I'm honest been banned 1,000,047 times if that is enough to get one suspended..
Oh well I predicted this is where we would end up, when all the inclusive blah blah started with gaming... is just the same everyone is offended by everything all the f*cking time..

c3k said:
I wish I were part of a protected class.
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bah... I bet you can be... for example I no longer identify as a "white guy" but as a far more accurate descriptor "Transylvanian Saxon American" (which is 100% accurate my family did in fact come from Transylvania some ~100yrs ago.. Now I get to be SUPER OFFENDED by vampire costumes / movies.. etc as it is quite offensive to my people and disrespectful to countless victims of Vlad The Impaler many of whom where Transylvanian Saxons ... the fact that it was 700~yrs ago... don't matter
 
SJW, Feminism, and PC culture, destroys everything entertaining and fun. What next? They will suspend MMA fighters from talking trash to their opponents?!?
 
Chunder said:
There's a lot of toxic masculinity in this thread defending the player's actions..
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go eat a dick.

Seriously though - it's called trash talk, it's been around in sports ever since sports were invented. So a few eons now so far. It's funny the people that are so adamant for you to worse words instead of violence... they sure are pissed off about these words.

To mirror your phrasing... there's a toxic level of pussy ass snowflake mentality in the world today. You can't say anything, do anything, look at anyone, or even exist without *someone* getting offended. The world already sucks enough without that retarded level of thinking. The world isn't a nice place, the world owes you nothing.

To quote Neegan from the Walking dead: Man the fuck up.
 
Overwatch is one of those games where the community is toxic as shit.

There's reasons multiple players quit playing in comp mode....Mostly from douchebags reporting each other for pretty sophomoric bullshit, and getting the others silenced...

One irony though, aside from the point that OW is an overhyped piece of shit franchise....This variety of behavior isn't anything new, to be fair - It's only been going on since the early days of CS beta/alphas....Another franchise I ascribe as being a community being pretty over-competitive and toxic as shit. But at least there, I'll claim there are some real pro's playing there.
 
scojer said:
what?
Sure that's immature, but, really? play ANY ONLINE match and people talk like that. That is why if I do play online I mute everyone.
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You might play some basketball or soccer at a local park, and call someone a bleeping bleep. But if you were playing in a national or international league and did the same, expect to face big consequences.

Actually, maybe sport was the wrong choice of comparison...
 
collegeboy69us said:
Seriously though - it's called trash talk, it's been around in sports ever since sports were invented. So a few eons now so far.
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And there are professional sports now that will penalize you for certain kinds of trash talk. Times change...
 
Jehuty said:
Guys,

This happened during a professional event. Just because you can say shit online (which would, btw, get your ass banned if caught) doesn't mean it has any place in a professional setting. These people are getting paid. They have sponsors. If I was a sponsor I wouldn't want some snot-nosed kid tarnishing my name.
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If he was suspended for cursing, ok (arguably), but if he was suspended for a homophobic remark, that's retarded.
 
Meeho said:
If he was suspended for cursing, ok (arguably), but if he was suspended for a homophobic remark, that's retarded.
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Why? Homophobic, racist, or any kind of discriminatory remarks should be looked down upon and have consequences. Imagine if someone in the NFL or the NBA said that - there will be suspensions and fines too. As for the other guy - he should also be fined for his trash talk, though I wouldn't hold them on the same level of offence.
 
Jehuty said:
Why? Homophobic, racist, or any kind of discriminatory remarks should be looked down upon and have consequences. Imagine if someone in the NFL or the NBA said that - there will be suspensions and fines too. As for the other guy - he should also be fined for his trash talk, though I wouldn't hold them on the same level of offence.
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Because it wasn't homophobic.
 
sfsuphysics said:
To be fair, getting rid of people who rage so hard when they lose is not necessarily a bad thing.
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That's part of the entertainment, [insert derogatory name here]. Watching people blow up. Literally and figuratively. ;)
 
trudude said:
Whoever made that call is a snowflake.
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Do you know that every "Real" sport has monetary and match based fines for unsportsmanship behavior in public?... NBA, NFL, FIFA, NHL they all will fine you and force you to sit a certain number of matches for those types of outbursts.
 
trudude said:
I hope you are trolling and not actually some weirdo "Liberal" who is checking people's "privilege". There is no such thing as toxic masculinity.
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Yes, there very much so it toxic masculinity.

It's real easy to not see problems that dont affect you personally.
 
Is it just me or is really funny people are defending "trash talk" that was made by a loser (his team lost 0-4) who didn't even play. Who got all pissed off because his team got rolled and they threw HIS common"trash talk" back at them.

Complain about "snowflakes" all you want while you defend a thin skinned man child that can't take what he dishes. He was pathetic imo.

"Go back there, suck a fat cock. I mean, he would like that."

Now I certainly agree common one liners, even if originally homophobic (like "eat a dick") should be considered standard "trash talk". The above line appears to be something else though, there was another part to it that might break the comment out of typical trash talk area an into the personal.
 
eSport - no physical talent but sitting and sweating while rage quiting from time to time to look good at the only job you can get, playing games and wasting tax money to fund the circus.
 
MrDeaf said:
If eSports wants to be taken seriously at all, they will need to outright ban trash talk entirely.
The line "rolled and smoked" is trash talk.

Trash talk is "disrespectful behavior" and is not present in all other sports at the professional level.
I am pretty sure if any other professional athlete used "rolled and smoked", at a sporting event they are competing in, they will lose sponsorship and maybe even fined.

Sponsors and sporting associations generally don't want to be associated with assholes.
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Really? Have you ever heard the shit that gets said on the field in the NFL?
 
I don't like peas. Never have. If I get peas on my plate, I segregate them. I push them aside. Sometimes, and I'm not proud of this, if one of them resists, I crush it to a paste with my fork. I do that as an example to the other peas.

I hate peas.

I do not fear peas.

My desire to have nothing to do with peas does not mean I am "pea-phobic".

The term "homophobic" is derisive. It, like much of the SJW movement and PC culture, is a misnomer. Those who use it show me that they have been co-opted into something they don't understand.

"Go suck a big fat cock" may be offensive...to a straight male. Ooops, to someone who identifies as a straight male. (Whew. That was close.) It does NOT mean that the speaker fears queers.

Edited, ironically, due to the misuse of a homophone. ;)
 
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MrDeaf said:
If eSports wants to be taken seriously at all, they will need to outright ban trash talk entirely.
The line "rolled and smoked" is trash talk.

Trash talk is "disrespectful behavior" and is not present in all other sports at the professional level.
I am pretty sure if any other professional athlete used "rolled and smoked", at a sporting event they are competing in, they will lose sponsorship and maybe even fined.

Sponsors and sporting associations generally don't want to be associated with assholes.
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Never watched professional sports I see.

You know those players on the field ice whatever?

Yeah they trash talk all the time.

Guess baseball hockey football etc. Aren't real sports.
 
Jehuty said:
Guys,

This happened during a professional event. Just because you can say shit online (which would, btw, get your ass banned if caught) doesn't mean it has any place in a professional setting. These people are getting paid. They have sponsors. If I was a sponsor I wouldn't want some snot-nosed kid tarnishing my name.
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Another "progressive" who has never played sports. Let me educate you on the sh*t talk that takes place on a professional football field, but something tells me that soyboys would say nothing about it because of who was saying it. So sick of these made up terms that for some reason are just now accepted as actual terms with any meaningful purpose. "Homophobic"...nothing but a lazy way to shut down speech. Guys are going to talk smack in competitive setting...happens. Grow a pair.
 
Master_shake_ said:
Never watched professional sports I see.

You know those players on the field ice whatever?

Yeah they trash talk all the time.

Guess baseball hockey football etc. Aren't real sports.
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Are you really this dumb? There's a big difference between what players say to each other in person on the field when there is no mic, and what people say to each other in recorded and/or published social media. If an NFL player went to a post-game televised interview and told his opponent to suck a cock do you think there would be no consequences?

Hilariously ironic that someone who constantly derides "PC culture" and "snowflakes" in every single thread around here fails so badly at understanding personal responsibility.
 
Rizen said:
Are you really this dumb? There's a big difference between what players say to each other in person on the field when there is no mic, and what people say to each other in recorded and/or published social media. If an NFL player went to a post-game televised interview and told his opponent to suck a cock do you think there would be no consequences?

Hilariously ironic that someone who constantly derides "PC culture" and "snowflakes" in every single thread around here fails so badly at understanding personal responsibility.
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when degeneration-x told you to suck it and made an x around their crotches they weren't talking about your thumbs and that was on live tv in the late 90's

did they get fined? fired? sued? put on the PC cross and crucified?

nope they sold t-shirts.

today, some people would want their heads.
 
I'm all against discrimination and unfair treatment, but I agree on the whole -phobic thing getting out of control. If I make a joke insulting someone's manhood, or implying he commits homosexual acts, that in no way means I am AFRAID. This is coded language used for manipulation, plain and simple. This kid is just an idiot, and he should have been punished. That last bit made it personal towards the gay guy, and it was unprofessional. How does that make him afraid of him, or gays in general?

Also, back in my day (I know), we settled that shit IN THE GAME. eSports is way too pussified for me nowadays. I come from the 90-00s Street Fighter competitive scene. If there was anything that went beyond trash talk, it was settled in a money match or a fight, like men, and that was it.
 
Hatriot said:
Another "progressive" who has never played sports. Let me educate you on the sh*t talk that takes place on a professional football field, but something tells me that soyboys would say nothing about it because of who was saying it. So sick of these made up terms that for some reason are just now accepted as actual terms with any meaningful purpose. "Homophobic"...nothing but a lazy way to shut down speech. Guys are going to talk smack in competitive setting...happens. Grow a pair.
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lmao, did you make a temp account or are you really a new user?

Anyway, if the professional sports companies like NFL, NBA, NHL, etc got wind of the shit talk, guess what bub? They also get fined and / or suspended. What's said on the field doesn't matter if it isn't caught by a microphone and a direct quote isn't reported. Also: resorting to ad hominem is all you can do? Damn, I pity you.
 
Master_shake_ said:
when degeneration-x told you to suck it and made an x around their crotches they weren't talking about your thumbs and that was on live tv in the late 90's

did they get fined? fired? sued? put on the PC cross and crucified?

nope they sold t-shirts.

today, some people would want their heads.
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Because that was allowed by their employer (and wrestling has always been low-brow, not surprising). This is not allowed by the Overwatch league, and most pro sports teams don't allow it either. You do realize that this player isn't being punished by the government right? He's being penalized by his employer, who clearly has established guidelines and what is and is not acceptable conduct by their players. eSports has a huge problem with toxic behavior, it's really not hard to understand why this situation played out as it did.

If you don't like the terms of your employment, leave. Otherwise own up to being a dumbass, pay the fine and move on. People are acting like this guy is some sort of martyr. Give me a break.
 
Rizen said:
eSports has a huge problem with toxic behavior
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No, it has toxic bitching about behaviour falsely qualified as toxic. As things go mainstream, former bullies and assholes latch on to the now popular thing and ruin it with their rotten personalities. Fuck their snowflake sensibilities. They can go suck a fat cock.

On another note, if cursing goes against the corporate guidelines, fine, whatever, but if they attach various phobias and isms to it, they can go suck a fat cock too.
 
Rizen said:
Because that was allowed by their employer (and wrestling has always been low-brow, not surprising). This is not allowed by the Overwatch league, and most pro sports teams don't allow it either. You do realize that this player isn't being punished by the government right? He's being penalized by his employer, who clearly has established guidelines and what is and is not acceptable conduct by their players. eSports has a huge problem with toxic behavior, it's really not hard to understand why this situation played out as it did.

If you don't like the terms of your employment, leave. Otherwise own up to being a dumbass, pay the fine and move on. People are acting like this guy is some sort of martyr. Give me a break.
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gaming has always been toxic.

also it's not toxicity. it's just trash talk.

it's part of the community.

don't act like this is new.

and if esports promoters didn't know then fuck them
 
The amount of Neanderthal-like behavior in this thread is staggering. I've got news for you guys, the Neanderthals died out. You're the outcasts of the outcasts and your time has come. Get over yourselves.

And seriously, "I hate peas"? Why don't you "act like a man" and say what you mean instead of the childish euphemisms.
 
Master_shake_ said:
when degeneration-x told you to suck it and made an x around their crotches they weren't talking about your thumbs and that was on live tv in the late 90's

did they get fined? fired? sued? put on the PC cross and crucified?

nope they sold t-shirts.

today, some people would want their heads.
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Dude, give it a rest. Just because trash talk happens doesn't mean the league and everyone has to condone it.
 
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