I have 6,000usd help me build a rig

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My grandma gave me 5,000 for my birthday and i have 1,000

I really want to build a second mining rig. I don't pay for electricity so i want to take advantage of this.

I already have a hard drive, so the only parts i need is

1. mining case with fans
2. 5 video cards
3. motherboard
4. processor
5. ram
4. 5 risers
5. psu

the only part i think i should get is the psu
I am thinking about a 1300w psu evga
https://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438011


help me build the rest!


thanks!
 
RSV-L4500
GTX 1080TI (as many as you can find) or 1070s
if only 5 cards, any ATX motherboard with 5 pcie slots (x1, x4, x8, x16 all fine)
low end cpu (celeron if 1151, ryzen 3 if am4)
4-8GB DDR4
get risers that have 4+ stars on amazon and many reviews. Usually 006C or 007.
Consider a tokamak rosewill 1500w. It will have 12x pcie 8 pin connectors.
 
Start with 4 Star Wars Titan Xp Collector's Edition for $1138 each. That'll leave you a little over $1400 for the rest of the system.
 
Parja said:
Start with 4 Star Wars Titan Xp Collector's Edition for $1138 each. That'll leave you a little over $1400 for the rest of the system.
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This is actually pretty solid advice given the market landscape. Limit 2 will be problematic but you should be able to place another order given that these haven't sold out and have been at this price for awhile now.
 
Now not a good time to build anything it seems. Cards are super expensive and hell finding high end ps
not so easy either. If i had my heart set on it i do what Parja suggested for your VC catds. Otherwise what
hitched said not bad advice !!

The crypto build boom seems to have caught all the manufactures flat footed.
 
oblox said:
This is actually pretty solid advice given the market landscape. Limit 2 will be problematic but you should be able to place another order given that these haven't sold out and have been at this price for awhile now.
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I was able to add two of the Jedi and two of the Empire cards to my order, so you might be able to snag four.
 
I'm just looking forward to the day when this mining stuff either goes away, or becomes a totally separate thing from enthusiasts. It needs to fork. And fork it now.
 
multi-tasking_guy said:
My grandma gave me 5,000 for my birthday and i have 1,000

I really want to build a second mining rig. I don't pay for electricity so i want to take advantage of this.

I already have a hard drive, so the only parts i need is

1. mining case with fans
2. 5 video cards
3. motherboard
4. processor
5. ram
4. 5 risers
5. psu

the only part i think i should get is the psu
I am thinking about a 1300w psu evga
https://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438011


help me build the rest!


thanks!
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Why not just buy some coins that have been mined for cheap and watch them rise?
 
Who pays for the electrical power ? Do you have an agreement to use and how many ampere the line can offer.

5 card’s need some A ... depend on the card, sure
 
You say this is a second rig? How's your first rig set-up? you like it?
 
Wyodiver said:
I'm just looking forward to the day when this mining stuff either goes away, or becomes a totally separate thing from enthusiasts. It needs to fork. And fork it now.
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Nuh. Go learn supply / demand in a "free market". Then do the "am i a communist sympathizer" check. Get back to us when you have decided to be honest about what type of society you live in.



multi-tasking_guy Either be patient and buy when stock is @near MSRP prices - or wait for Volta.
 
I would go to cyberpowerpc and get the cheapest pc they have that can hold more than one card. They have their cards when you add a second or third for msrp. You could alway buy them, part the systems, and keep the graphics cards. You can buy a full i3-8300, ssd system with a 1070 for $1000.
 
I did a slight bit of research. Radeon R9 270X puts out similar profits to a GTX 1060. They are not that popular due to power consumption. BUT given you don't pay for power it is the perfect option. They can be had brand new for under $200 and obviously the 280/290 cards if you can get them cheap enough will work just as well.. https://www.ebay.com/itm/292398389342
 
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Wyodiver said:
I'm just looking forward to the day when this mining stuff either goes away, or becomes a totally separate thing from enthusiasts. It needs to fork. And fork it now.
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lol you're mad because people are using GPU's for things you dont agree with?
 
Wyodiver said:
I'm just looking forward to the day when this mining stuff either goes away, or becomes a totally separate thing from enthusiasts. It needs to fork. And fork it now.
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Got news for you... The odds of the current situation changing much over the foreseeable future is slim to none.

Blockchain offerings are here to stay. The only thing that makes them trustworthy is that the blockchain is decentralized compute. ASIC's are more efficient but cost prohibitive to most. The only thing that will change the current cost dynamic is if video card prices reach ASIC prices.

I can think of one thing that could save the day. One of the large cloud providers (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) buys a large amount of Video Cards and specifically sets them aside for gamers to rent remotely. They could turn off capability to have them used for mining and have the buying power to get a competitive price for the cards.
 
Or crypto prices fall in the toilet, or ISP's start blocking the exchange ports or charge extra..
 
H2R2P2 said:
I can think of one thing that could save the day. One of the large cloud providers (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) buys a large amount of Video Cards and specifically sets them aside for gamers to rent remotely. They could turn off capability to have them used for mining and have the buying power to get a competitive price for the cards.
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um...there's nvidia geforce now cloud service that was just announced at CES.
 
H2R2P2 said:
One of the large cloud providers (Microsoft, Google, Amazon) buys a large amount of Video Cards and specifically sets them aside for gamers to rent remotely.
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One big huge "no thanks" from me on this idea.
 
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How many GALAX 1070ti you want?
https://ketantec.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-805865622/GALAX_Graphics_Card.html
https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/GDDR5-NVIDIA-Chipset-GTX-1070-Ti_60728064970.html

Never skimp on Chinese shipping. Always demand DHL if you don't
want your shit to fall of the back of some donkeycart in Shenzhen.
I don't even know if they have donkeys? But if they been eating
them, would explain where 2 out of 8 of my shipments ended up.
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Two out of eight shipments missing? Was there a resolution to that problem?
Also, have the GPUs you actually received been legit?
 
pslate said:
Two out of eight shipments missing? Was there a resolution to that problem?
Also, have the GPUs you actually received been legit?
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Two of eight shipments I have not yet received after 73days include: an OndaD1800 Motherboard, and a 240V power meter.
Every one free shipped on time with tracking. But free tracking is useles "Sorting in Shenzhen", "Received by Carrier". Gives
no clue who to follow up, even if you spoke Chinese, which I don't. Seller is like "Did you check with your local post office?"
Whatever stonewall might be required to make you go away, they have plenty to spare.

Its on you to understand this in advance: Arrange for accountable shipping. The seller is not going to lift a finger to
help you find or replace lost items they shipped on time, but fell off the free donkeycart two blocks around the corner.
Free tracking will not give you the donkey's name, “Yahore?” much less who was last seen eating him.

Everything I got was legit, except "doube ball tripple fan" 1600W supply substituted cheap ass sleeve bearing fans.
OTOH, that 1600W supply got a free unexpected upgrade to DHL shipping, and arrived same week. Props to DHL.
The supply is as nicely made as it could be from whatever parts were on-hand, does function, and I only paid $115.
I would buy same again, I dunno why Shantou Wansen (sticker brand "Yuesen") need to lie about the damn fans...

Havn't bought GPUs yet, just stumbled on GALAX while trying to scare up a dozen or so cheap 1050 2gb cards.
I'm now seriously considering 1030's, can't cheat me on fans for cards that don't need any, except a big boxfan...
 
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The only thing that makes them trustworthy is that the blockchain is decentralized compute.
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The only reason that isn't true is how UNTRUSTWORTHY most exchanges are.
And private sale of blockchain assets is just a Colon-Blow-powered shit-show.
 
Chas said:
The only reason that isn't true is how UNTRUSTWORTHY most exchanges are.
And private sale of blockchain assets is just a Colon-Blow-powered shit-show.
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You are 100% not getting what I am saying. Current transactional systems (like the ones used in banking) are controlled by single entities (like the banks) and/or the government they report to. Thats why institutions can reverse charges, force you to pay things you dont agree with, etc. The payment network also charges fees to use it (credit card transaction fees, going over your limit fees, interest, etc.). These are all by-products of single entities controlling/owning the network itself.

Blockchains are the exact opposite of this. No one owns or controls the blockchain (unless someone owns or controls more then 50% of the mining/staking of the coins). An event happens when the majority of people maintaining the block chain agree it has happened.

What you are describing is people being careless with their crypto.

The concept of a decentralized block chain run by non-associated entities is never going away. The reason for this is there is no way to manipulate it (baring the 51% attack previously mentioned). Pure an simple.
 
"Careless with their crypto.

Please tell me how a person is "careless" if the exchange they use goes dark for a day and the contents of their wallet vanishes...

Yes, at the TRANSACTIONAL LEVEL, it's trustworthy.
At the CLEARING LEVEL it's fucking Wild Wild West...
 
If you want to buy cards, either buy them in the next 2-3 weeks, or be prepared to wait till mid march.

The Chinese new year is coming up mid February and most stuff in China, Taiwan & Hong Kong will shut down for 2 weeks, and then have to ramp up, so expect about 3 weeks with nobody shipping more cards from the factory.
The spot prices will probably go up a fair bit.

That is what the wholesalers are advising their direct purchasers, buy now to cover your needs till Mid March.


The 1080Ti and 1070 class are pretty popular with mining right now, but depending on which coins you are going to mine, having some of the RX 580 / Vega 56 cards at cheaper prices is not a bad idea either, you would probably do best hunting around and finding good deals on cards from time to time. Also while the 1080 card is not the best, sometimes you can find better deals on them than the 1070 cards.

Supplies of both AMD and Nvidia cards are still coming out of the factories, just in smaller runs.

If you are in the wholesale world you'll see like 10 of the 1080Ti be offered to you one day, then 50 of the Vega 56 another day, then 10 of the RX580, the following day, then 5 of the 1080, another day, then 5 of the RX580 and so on.

If you are a bit flexible on the models, you should be able to easily get enough to build 1 or 2 rigs at decent prices.
 
At 6k and someone who's English and situation appears to point to being barely, if at all, out of HS, it's very hard not recommending dumping that money into something like a S&P500 index fund in a Roth IRA and forgetting you had the money for the next 40 years. 6k into a mining rig and not knowing what you're doing in the least seems a short trip to tears.
 
Derfnofred said:
At 6k and someone who's English and situation appears to point to being barely, if at all, out of HS, it's very hard not recommending dumping that money into something like a S&P500 index fund in a Roth IRA and forgetting you had the money for the next 40 years. 6k into a mining rig and not knowing what you're doing in the least seems a short trip to tears.
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Mining is not easy money. It sucked getting my rigs up and running nice and stable. I'm already planning on dicking with those stable machines this weekend which I already know is a bad idea. They'll totally be more stable when i'm done and making more money right? of course it'll go as planned.
 
Chas said:
"Careless with their crypto.

Please tell me how a person is "careless" if the exchange they use goes dark for a day and the contents of their wallet vanishes...

Yes, at the TRANSACTIONAL LEVEL, it's trustworthy.
At the CLEARING LEVEL it's fucking Wild Wild West...
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Because you chose what exchange to use, and you picked one that was untrustworthy. There are ways to cash out without the use of shady exchanges or shady 3rd parties. That is on you. Thats not the fault of the technology.

That is why....
 
H2R2P2 said:
Because you chose what exchange to use, and you picked one that was untrustworthy. There are ways to cash out without the use of shady exchanges or shady 3rd parties. That is on you. Thats not the fault of the technology.

That is why....
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Yes, because trustworthiness (or the appearance) is a perpetual and unchanging characteristic that can't be simulated!

And I hate to disagree, but private sale (not use) of cryptocurrency is a gigantic shit show.
 
Derfnofred said:
At 6k and someone who's English and situation appears to point to being barely, if at all, out of HS, it's very hard not recommending dumping that money into something like a S&P500 index fund in a Roth IRA and forgetting you had the money for the next 40 years. 6k into a mining rig and not knowing what you're doing in the least seems a short trip to tears.
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If it's ALL the money they have, don't even invest it. Just keep it in checking/savings, you'll need it as an emergency fund.
 
^ Something to that effect -- yeah, I agree entirely, yowen. In either case, mining cryptocurrency is something with pretty high risk which is fine once the essentials are locked down.
 
so to sum it up you'll have better odds of walking into a casino and putting it all on black. If you couldn't live with that level of risk on the "investment" you shouldn't. This shit is very literally gambling. Except not only are you gambling but you're in a back room casino where if you do win you may get robbed.
 
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