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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)
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rfarmer
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Since you are going for a Noctua heatsink you probably want to stick to Noctua fans, I don't own any myself but there are plenty here who can give you advice on different Noctua fans.
Chapeau
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Can't say I've had a huge amount of experience but I used:
Silverstone FW91 - PWM with a good range of RPM but rpm's not entirely stable. Good only if you like the colour and get it at a cheap price. Overall only just an OK fan. Some bearing noise.
Noctua NFA9 - Excellent fan. Quiet, stable rpms. Maybe overkill for the case. Zero bearing noise.
Noctua NFA9x14 PWM - Excellent fan. Quiet stable rpms. I'd say this is perfect for bringing just enough fresh cool air into the case whilst leaving circulation room. Zero bearing noise.
I'd also say that my experience may differ from yours as I cut out my rear fan guards entirely - my fans are working with less restriction.
Finished my build for time being.
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO 960 M.2 256gb for Windows OS
Samsung EVO 960 M.2 256gb for Hackintosh OS X
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
And no build is complete without the beer shot
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO 960 M.2 256gb for Windows OS
Samsung EVO 960 M.2 256gb for Hackintosh OS X
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
And no build is complete without the beer shot
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rfarmer
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Finished my build for time being.
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO M.2 256gb for OS
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
Nice clean build you have there, looks great. Interesting color on your cables but they go well with the Noctua fans, did you sleeve them yourself?
I wanted to go with Noctua fans but they are not the most popular color. But I said "why fight it". So I went with Gold color cables to try to match them but the color on the website didnt match the actual product when it arrived. Below is what you see on their website. Very close to Noctua fan colors. But I am still happy with the actual gold and keeping with a gold, silver, black theme. Ive been on a black and gold kick lately anyways and customizing all my cars in Forza with black carbon fiber bodies and gold rims.
Finished my build for time being.
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO M.2 256gb for OS
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
And no build is complete without the beer shot
Awesome! :O
I love it.
Finally i've bought the Noctua NF-A9 PWM and the NF-S12A.
I think it will be ok.
^^
estrangeiro14
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xfan10 great looking build 
I really like how the cables turned out (even not completely matching the color of the Noctua fans).
One thing I'm curious is the average fps in BF1. You sure you have 90 fps average at 2160p with ultra settings?
I really like how the cables turned out (even not completely matching the color of the Noctua fans).One thing I'm curious is the average fps in BF1. You sure you have 90 fps average at 2160p with ultra settings?
I would try removing the EVGA fans and seeing how temps changed, also would switch to exhausting.Finished my build for time being.
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO M.2 256gb for OS
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
And no build is complete without the beer shot
xfan10 great looking build
One thing I'm curious is the average fps in BF1. You sure you have 90 fps average at 2160p with ultra settings?
I made a 4k@40Mbps video capture for you. Keep in mind, when recording is turned on, it instantly knocks off 5-10 fps.
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Christyles
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nice and clean build.Finished my build for time being.
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO M.2 256gb for OS
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
And no build is complete without the beer shot
Christyles
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Can you share your CableMod configurator page?Finished my build for time being.
Intel i7 8700
EVGA 1080 ti SC2
Samsung EVO M.2 256gb for OS
Samsung EVO SSD 1tb for games
HGST HD 1tb for shadow play and OS backups
Corsair SF600 PSU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666
ASUS Strix Z370-I Motherboard
Noctua NH-U9S
Noctua NF-A9 PWM
Noctua NF-S12A PWM x 3
CableMod custom cables
CPU temp max avg 55c
GPU temp max avg 72c
Fortnite avg fps 4k max settings 56fps
BF1 avg fps 4k max settings 90fps
Thank you to those who helped me with my questions during the build
And no build is complete without the beer shot
Christyles
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Thanks, What is the length of the SATA 3 cable for the ssd infront?
they only have two pre set lengths for the SATA data cables, 30cm and 60cm. I got the 30cm
galletabah
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is enough for me.No opinion about this filter?
Must be that everyone is happy with it I guess
no add noise to the side fans
Christyles
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Anyone installed Arctic AX3 on their 1080ti SC2? I'm not sure if I did something wrong here. I ran Heaven and max temp I've got is 84c on a 2k monitor with my fans on aggressive mode without overclock. Ambient temp is about 29c. I can't even overclock the card, Maybe because of the Thermal paste or how I put the heatsinks or maybe because of where I plug my fans??? I used a Gelid fan adapter to connect my F12s at the bottom.
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Thx a lot!
Yes, 84c is the max limit, so the card may not be running at full speed. Double check that the fans have indeed max RPM using hwmonitor or something. Are the fans pulling air in or pushing it out?
I installed the AC4 + extra heatsinks on the 1080ti FE with an SC2 bios and ended up with temps above 80c using the F12s. I picked up a ML120 twin pack quite cheap and surprisingly the temps instantly went down below 70c. The noise level isn't too bad, much better than the ref cooler, but not F12 good.
I'm guess the F12s isn't able to generate enough pressure. Perhaps it could be related to how the rest of the fans are facing in the case.
Anyone installed Arctic AX3 on their 1080ti SC2? I'm not sure if I did something wrong here. I ran Heaven and max temp I've got is 84c on a 2k monitor with my fans on aggressive mode without overclock. Ambient temp is about 29c. I can't even overclock the card, Maybe because of the Thermal paste or how I put the heatsinks or maybe because of where I plug my fans??? I used a Gelid fan adapter to connect my F12s at the bottom.
I had a similar problem when I first put the Arctic Acelero Extreme on my GTX770. It was severely throttling because of temperature. I was afraid that I didn’t install the heat sink correctly and I ended up taking it off and checking the thermal paste, but it all looked good.
Then I started listening to the fans. I had 2x120mm fans plugged into the graphics card fan header with a gelid splitter/adapter. It turns out that the card wasn’t giving enough power to the fans, so they weren’t actually spinning very fast.
So then I got a fan splitter that takes the PWM signal from one source, but powers the fans from a molex plug. Once I did that, the fans were able to spin up a lot faster and move enough air through the heat sink to keep the card cool enough to prevent throttling.
Christyles
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They're pushing air out of the case. The temps never go down 50c even on idle. Is this normal? When you purchased your ML120's did you still connect them to your GPU or to the M/B?
Do you have a picture of this setup?
I don’t have any pictures right now, but if you search on Amazon for “PWM splitter with molex power” you will find what I use. I have an adapter that I plug into the graphics card that converts from whatever weird fan header the graphics card uses to a regular 4 pin fan, then I plug the PWM splitter into that and I actually have 3 fans plugged in to the splitter. 2 on the bottom and one on the side panel bracket.
Christyles
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I was thinking of connecting the bottom fans directly to the M/B but I'm not sure if that'll be ok.
whats a precint?
I happened to record my entire Ncase build so here is a clip I made for ya of me unboxing my ASUS motherboard. Looks like there wasn't seals on either.
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Whether or not it is okay to plug your fans into the motherboard depends on how you want to control the fans. If you just want to set a specific fan speed, you can do that no problem. If you want the fan speed to increase/decrease according to the motherboard’s temperature sensor, it’s probably set up that way by default.
BUT, if you want the fan speed to increase/decrease According to the GPU temperature, you will have to use some kind of fan control software and you will have to set it up so that the motherboard fan header will change the fan speed according to the GPU temperature instead of the default sensor that it normally uses.
That method seemed like too much trouble to me, so I got the adapter and plugged my fans into the graphics card fan header.
So I took an adapter similar to this
https://www.amazon.com/Gelid-CA-PWM-02-Adapter-Sleeved-Cooler/dp/B005ZKZEQA
and plugged it into the graphics card fan header.
Then I took a fan splitter similar to this
https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Mol...sr=1-1&keywords=PWM+splitter+with+molex+power
and plugged it into the adapter, and so I had 3 regular PWM fan headers who’s speed was controlled by the graphics card.
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Hi all,
I have bought an Ncase M1 v4 to a friend days ago and I am thinking in watercooling the CPU+GPU. I have been researching several configurations, being my goals: use of an AIO over custom loop (I dont want an ugly reservoir behind the case). Silence and use of QDCs.
I have seen the Alphacool eisbaer + eiswolf combo but the former uses a tall pump preventing the use of the side space for the radiator (I think so, I have not be able to found exact measures or compatibility facts with this one).
Another option is using a modular combo from EKWB (EK-MLC Phoenix 240 rad, pump and GPU full cover) but I have seen here that the Predator (same measures than phoenix rad.) doesn't fit... Until I saw this: https://imgur.com/gallery/wuWqz/new Apparently this guy have suceeded in fitting that monster inside the M1.
And the other option is to use the new Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme that holds the pump and reservoir inside the radiator, but I don't know the exact specs now so I really don't know https://www.eteknix.com/alphacool-teases-eisbaer-extreme-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler/
Could you tell me what do you think guys?
THX!
PS: sorry for my english
I have bought an Ncase M1 v4 to a friend days ago and I am thinking in watercooling the CPU+GPU. I have been researching several configurations, being my goals: use of an AIO over custom loop (I dont want an ugly reservoir behind the case). Silence and use of QDCs.
I have seen the Alphacool eisbaer + eiswolf combo but the former uses a tall pump preventing the use of the side space for the radiator (I think so, I have not be able to found exact measures or compatibility facts with this one).
Another option is using a modular combo from EKWB (EK-MLC Phoenix 240 rad, pump and GPU full cover) but I have seen here that the Predator (same measures than phoenix rad.) doesn't fit... Until I saw this: https://imgur.com/gallery/wuWqz/new Apparently this guy have suceeded in fitting that monster inside the M1.
And the other option is to use the new Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme that holds the pump and reservoir inside the radiator, but I don't know the exact specs now so I really don't know https://www.eteknix.com/alphacool-teases-eisbaer-extreme-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler/
Could you tell me what do you think guys?
THX!
PS: sorry for my english
Yes, they're connected to the GPU. There should be plenty of power, don't let the small connector fool you. Fan headers are usually able to supply ~1A, in comparison a single F12 draws 0.05A and a ML120 draws 0.225A.
You should see a decrease in GPU temp by facing the fans the other way, though, your other components will run a little hotter.
Keep in mind that the AX3 is a 300W cooler and that the 1080Ti card can easily draw 250W. It might be a little optimistic to expect a couple of F12s to be able to cool it in such a tight case.
Also, I'm using elevated feet for my case to reduce the airflow noise and the pressure/power needed to move air.
rfarmer
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You could go with something like the Alphacool Eiswolf which puts the pump in the GPU block instead of the CPU, that way you can add a CPU block and not worry about height restrictions.
Hi to everyone, finally i got here everything to build my system.
Is there any step by step building guide for the ncase?
The dell monitor still has to arrive. Amazon did it again. I'll found myself mounting everything except the cpu and the cooler.
Thanks to all for the help. I'm going to search the build guide around.
Is there any step by step building guide for the ncase?
The dell monitor still has to arrive. Amazon did it again. I'll found myself mounting everything except the cpu and the cooler.
Thanks to all for the help. I'm going to search the build guide around.
Christyles
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You can follow this guide posted by qrash.Hi to everyone, finally i got here everything to build my system.
Is there any step by step building guide for the ncase?
The dell monitor still has to arrive. Amazon did it again. I'll found myself mounting everything except the cpu and the cooler.
Thanks to all for the help. I'm going to search the build guide around.
Christyles
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Anyone installed Arctic AX3 on their 1080ti SC2? I'm not sure if I did something wrong here. I ran Heaven and max temp I've got is 84c on a 2k monitor with my fans on aggressive mode without overclock. Ambient temp is about 29c. I can't even overclock the card, Maybe because of the Thermal paste or how I put the heatsinks or maybe because of where I plug my fans??? I used a Gelid fan adapter to connect my F12s at the bottom.
Update: So I re-did my thermal paste but it was still the same. Then I noticed that the other F12 infront is spinning slowly. So what I did is I connected both fans using a splitter from my F12 to the GPU side. I ran Valley benchmark, The highest temp I've got is 65c which is good but the fans are now running at 100% and I couldn't control it EVGA precision. Any advice?
Hi!
Should i put the 2nd noctua fan on the nh-u9s or would be better to put in on the back of the ncase? (i don't remember if i asked this here... maybe xD)
xfan10 , you have the z370 rog, will the cooler fit ok with the 2 fans?
Another matter, it's easy to install the cpu cooler and the fans with the motherboard already assembled in the ncase, or it's better to install the cooler and its fans on the mobo and then put everything together in the case (mobo, nhu9s with two 92mm fans)?
I want to do the best possible.
Thanks a lot.
Should i put the 2nd noctua fan on the nh-u9s or would be better to put in on the back of the ncase? (i don't remember if i asked this here... maybe xD)
xfan10 , you have the z370 rog, will the cooler fit ok with the 2 fans?
Another matter, it's easy to install the cpu cooler and the fans with the motherboard already assembled in the ncase, or it's better to install the cooler and its fans on the mobo and then put everything together in the case (mobo, nhu9s with two 92mm fans)?
I want to do the best possible.
Thanks a lot.
The second Noctua can fit on the cpu cooler. Its just personal preference. since my intake is from the back, I wanted the fresh outside air to hit the cooler. A most other people have the air flow the opposite way and so the second Noctua is pull away air so in that case it would be better to have it attached to the cpu cooler. so it kinda depends on the direction of your air flow. Most people do exhaust out the back.
I installed the cpu cooler while it was outside of the case the first time. But later I changed my cpu cooler from a c14s to the u9s and installed it while it was still inside the case. So I went thru both ways and it really wasn't a big deal going either way.
If you want to exhaust ALL hot air then you can duct one end of CPU cooler to the fan you will attach to back of case, I think I already gave you the link to my build, it's in my signature if you want to have a look.
And you want to put CPU then cooler then memory first, and put all of this in the case.