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I would wait. Personally I think this whole thing sucks and I wouldn't be buying any new cpu's right now. Let Intel sort this bullshit out. Your gonna pay top dollar for a couple that out of the box nets less performance than it should. I don't care if gaming is barely touched. If it's less it's less. IMO if your gonna get less you should pay less. In either case I wait until the next gen comes out and fixes this bullshit.If your building a data center, I'd consider waiting.
If your building a personal PC, the bugs are no reason to wait.
My opinion about it anyway
Currently have an i7 2600k and have been thinking of finally upgrading but with the recent news about current processors should I just wait until Intel changes the architecture to fix the spectre and meltdown bugs?
You know Ryzen chips are crazy fast... And aren't affected.
Dude this whole ordeal just started. I would at the very least wait a couple of months until it fleshes out a bit and we have a better understanding. What's the rush? He's lasted this long what is a little while longer? Buying anything right this minute is bad advice. Sorry.I doubt you see a performance CPU without issues of future attack vectors within the next 10 years. So how long are you going to stick to that also affected 2600K?
Every single performance CPU since Pentium Pro and K6 are affected if you exclude Itanium.
Dude this whole ordeal just started. I would at the very least wait a couple of months until it fleshes out a bit and we have a better understanding. What's the rush? He's lasted this long what is a little while longer? Buying anything right this minute is bad advice. Sorry.
But they are affected by Spectre. And crazy fast? They are most likely slower than his 2600K depending on his OC
And your next post will be a CB score or something?
why would it need to be? that is pretty obvious but if you had to go on price level all Ryzen parts in the price range of the 2600K are pretty much faster and more efficient in the everything from rendering to workstation.
A much cheaper 1500X with identical base / turbo's is more than a handful for the old titan of gaming, both CPU's are bottlenecking the 1080ti and a 4.7ghz 2600K is not winning despite 20+% clockspeed advantage. In stock form the 1500X is clearly out there on its own.
The only time your arguement actually works out is the very old Metro bench, Metro is very single threaded so high clocks does help in that instance where the 2600K at 4.7ghz beats Ryzen.
The stock 2600K falls behind the 1500X again. Metro remains the only bench where AMD's low clocks lose out to old intel with very high clocks.
For render tests its pretty obviously a bloodbath
Stock 1500X is about the same as a 4.7ghz 2600K with the same threads, a stock 2600K is blown away showing AMD's SMT is far to strong for Sandybridge . I will leave out cinebench where a stock 1500x matches a 4.7ghz 2600K and we will leave out firestrike and other gaming synthetics where again teh 1500X is comfortably pulling ahead even in stock trim.
What this means in short is that you likely need a 4.7+ sandy i7 to match a entry level SKU off the ryzen line, in productivity every Ryzen bar the 1800X is under the 2600K's price and every CPU practically wins out by a long margin in non gaming or real world applications, the best was the recent streaming performance of Ryzen the 1600 would utterly destroy the 2600K in live streaming at 1080P
You only prove my point, thanks. 1500X with 3200Mhz OCed memory and a 4Ghz OC is barely an upgrade in your selected benchmarks. What was the 2600K memory speed?
And Metro you are busy to excuse it beat them all.
For those that are commenting "If we wait and wait and wait ...."
We all know there is no waiting when technology is concerned, if we are thinking only about speed / dollar spent.
HOWEVER, the reason I currently recommend waiting isn't for that reason. The reason I recommend waiting right now is so we can find out more about the Spectre and Meltdown flaw.
Once we know more about how far and wide this flaw is, and more importantly how bad the impact of the patches will be, then you can make a more educated buying decision. If the impact is bad, there will also likely be price cuts which is only to OP's benefit.
Again, if the OP is running AOK in his Usecases with his present setup, I would recommend waiting at least a few months for more news (and conveniently newer hardware to come out as well).
Memory performance when general IPC is the limitation is not going to alter much, its not like memory is going to add 20 FPS upgrade, you can also notice the high clocked 4790K is doing just fine with DDR3. Lets not pretend that memory is life altering or the reason for SB just being really old now.
I don't know what you are trying to say there, though if it is what I am assuming it just points to difficulties you have reading graphs.
Yes, lets not pretend Haswell doesn't have faster memory either
All your bogus IPC claims went down the drain long ago.
Still having the IPC debate, I see.
Also consider Intel chips clock 10-30% higher (by generation), so IPC is one thing and "max clocks" is another thing entirely. Also consider the recent impact of Meltdown/Spectre.
Yes dude bad advice. What's so hard to understand? This is not a normal situation. Let him wait to see how this fleshes out then make an intelligent informed decision. What, waiting a couple of more months is going to make our break him? His cpu is old as fuck anyway. Two more months makes it that much better? Yes it's bad advice imo. I never said to wait years. Don't exaggerate.Bad advice? How long should he wait..and wait...and wait. There isn't coming any CPUs with a fix the next few years even if solved today.
This exactly. This was my point. Thank you.For those that are commenting "If we wait and wait and wait ...."
We all know there is no waiting when technology is concerned, if we are thinking only about speed / dollar spent.
HOWEVER, the reason I currently recommend waiting isn't for that reason. The reason I recommend waiting right now is so we can find out more about the Spectre and Meltdown flaw.
Once we know more about how far and wide this flaw is, and more importantly how bad the impact of the patches will be, then you can make a more educated buying decision. If the impact is bad, there will also likely be price cuts which is only to OP's benefit.
Again, if the OP is running AOK in his Usecases with his present setup, I would recommend waiting at least a few months for more news (and conveniently newer hardware to come out as well).
Yes dude bad advice. What's so hard to understand? This is not a normal situation. Let him wait to see how this fleshes out then make an intelligent informed decision. What, waiting a couple of more months is going to make our break him? His cpu is old as fuck anyway. Two more months makes it that much better? Yes it's bad advice imo. I never said to wait years. Don't exaggerate.
That's probably true but it doesn't change there advice being given by most people here. Most I think you will find agree with waiting a couple of months either way. What is your amazing rush? I really don't get it. Why are you in such a hurry to spend this guy's money? I'm confused.There isn´t going to be any new CPU with some sudden fixes to this for years to come.
That's probably true but it doesn't change there advice being given by most people here. Most I think you will find agree with waiting a couple of months either way. What is your amazing rush? I really don't get it. Why are you in such a hurry to spend this guy's money? I'm confused.
I assume you mean shintai?He's a well known Intel/8700k apologist. The best thing you can do is put him on ignore and carry on with your life buying whatever you see fit to buy.
I'll be shocked if the next generation of CPUs from Intel don't have this sorted. Who knows how long they've know about it. At the very least we know they've known that OTHER people have known about this flaw for at least the past 5-6 months... looking back, I'm guessing THIS and not threadripper was the culprit behind the recent trashfire releases. I thought it'd be hard to out-do the kabylake-x release, but if intel drops z390 with cpus still impacted by this flaw... damn.There isn´t going to be any new CPU with some sudden fixes to this for years to come.
I'll be shocked if the next generation of CPUs from Intel don't have this sorted. Who knows how long they've know about it. At the very least we know they've known that OTHER people have known about this flaw for at least the past 5-6 months... looking back, I'm guessing THIS and not threadripper was the culprit behind the recent trashfire releases. I thought it'd be hard to out-do the kabylake-x release, but if intel drops z390 with cpus still impacted by this flaw... damn.
Unless you have some affiliation with intel that grants you access to info the rest of us don't have that is... (And it would certainly explain some of your opinions.)