Fall Creators Update Already on More than Half of All Windows 10 PCs

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The Fall Creators Update is apparently gaining traction much faster than previous updates: according to data from AdDuplex, 53.6 of Windows 10 users have updated their systems to the latest version, which is 20.5 percent higher than just month ago. Many are saying that this is nothing to celebrate, however, implying that the updates are "forced."

33.7 percent of users are now running the Creators Update (1703), with 10.5 percent on the Anniversary Update (10.5 percent). 1.3 percent are still on Windows 10 1511, and 0.5 percent are on Windows 10 1507. Windows Insiders running an early build of the next version of Windows 10 -- Redstone 4 -- account for 0.4 percent.
 
"Forced" is right. You can delay it, but you can't run or hide.

To borrow a line from one of my favorite movies...

"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead! upgrade! "
 
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Only about 50% of users? I am surprised it is that that low considering how aggressive the upgrade policies are.
 
Caused a fuckton of issues too. From audio no longer working, settings being reset to defaults and various networking issues... Not impressed in the slightest.
 
Jim Kim said:
How about an operating system that just works and get's security updates, you know, like Windows 7.
How about getting updates that install with out requiring a reboot (I know, that's probably impossible)
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I had way more issues with the Windows 7 update engine than I ever have with Windows 10. But, at least you could choose or cancel updates on that.
 
MavericK said:
I had way more issues with the Windows 7 update engine than I ever have with Windows 10. But, at least you could choose or cancel updates on that.
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Understood, it was almost as if M$ intentionally borked WinUp for 7. Luckily some smart fellers came up with a fix but it was frustrating waiting on Redmond to do something about it.
 
Burticus said:
"Forced" is right. You can delay it, but you can't run or hide.

To borrow a line from one of my favorite movies...

"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead! upgrade! "
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Funny thing... while looking for that meme, I happened to find this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Terminator
A program designed to test nested loops and recursive functions. Kind of like a robot stuck in an infinite set of time travel paradoxes with a story that never ends. :p
 
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Well, I really do hate several things about Windows 10, but MS has not really screwed me over. (Maybe a "yet") The OS experience has been an 8.5/10 to me, whereas Windows 7 was a solid 9.5/10.
 
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got it on all 6 of my machines, a couple of machines took a couple of tries to get it to install, but no major issues here.
 
I have it on eight machines in the house. It took about 2 hours to install on my brand new 15" Surface Book 2 512GB for some reason last week, which is about the same amount of time as the $100 tablets I bought me the misses this summer.
 
im part of the 33% and i dont want the next one!

3d paint? VR not working according to some users? unnecessary """""""""upgrades"""""""""?, having to reset pretty much all settings/audio/etc? no thank you!
 
I have it on all my home systems (3 desktops and 2 laptops)...zero issues. I did a fresh install with the v1709 ISO on one desktop and one laptop. That particular desktop was still running Win7, so it was time.
 
It updated the wife's laptop but my desktop has yet to be updated. My employer just started a roll out of windows 10. They sent me a new laptop instead of doing an upgrade. So I get to play with that on Tuesday. Fun times.
 
Jim Kim said:
How about an operating system that just works and get's security updates, you know, like Windows 7.
How about getting updates that install with out requiring a reboot (I know, that's probably impossible)
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You probably don't want to hear this but Linux meets both of those requirements.
 
Mozgus said:
Of all the assload of reasons to hate Apple, this wasn't one of them. I can't fucking believe I feel the need to defend them right now, but I do. As I understand it, Apple decided that battery life was a bigger priority than performance, in the eyes of a casual user. And they failed to detail their method ahead of time. They've done consumers wrong in far worse ways a dozen fucking times over the years, but THIS is the final straw? Really? Shit, whatever.
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WTF are you talking about? This is a Windows 10 thread.
 
Jim Kim said:
How about an operating system that just works and get's security updates, you know, like Windows 7.
How about getting updates that install with out requiring a reboot (I know, that's probably impossible)
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In fairness, Windows 10 reboots less than Windows 7 after updates (depending on what the updates are I guess).
 
kirbyrj said:
In fairness, Windows 10 reboots less than Windows 7 after updates (depending on what the updates are I guess).
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Less, but without user consent. I just lost a 8 hour render a few days ago, because windows 10 decided to reboot in the middle of the night, regardless of the fact that the "don't reboot with logged in users" group policy was turned on.

Yes by default w7 will also reboot without user consent, but you can change that in a completely straightforward way in the windows update settings. W10 and being honest and straightforward? PFFF Here are a dozen completely ambiguous settings and switches spread through 3 places, (settings app, control panel, group policies) some of which seem to have conflicting functionality. Good luck with that.
 
M76 said:
Less, but without user consent. I just lost a 8 hour render a few days ago, because windows 10 decided to reboot in the middle of the night, regardless of the fact that the "don't reboot with logged in users" group policy was turned on.

Yes by default w7 will also reboot without user consent, but you can change that in a completely straightforward way in the windows update settings. W10 and being honest and straightforward? PFFF Here are a dozen completely ambiguous switches spread through 3 places, (settings app, control panel, group policies) some of which seem to have conflicting functionality.
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next time either yank the Ethernet cable or disable the update service.
 
Yeah, and it killed my laptop. It would take 2 hours to go from login to desktop, and any action would take 2 hours to show up, like just clicking the start menu or bringing up task manager. I had to completely reformat and reinstall to get my laptop up and running again. It was highly annoying.
 
I run with Windows update service disabled on my server and main pc. Once a month or two, I enable (and set service startup to automatic, this is key to avoiding stuck updates!) the service and do the updates when I know I can reboot. Just set the service back to disabled when I'm done. I've found no other reliable way to keep Windows from auto rebooting my machines.
 
i put win 10 on a small ssd and it wont stop asking to delete win7 to make more room
 
I only installed FCU because the Xbox Accessories application (remaps buttons on the XB1 Elite controller) was updated (without telling me, thanks MS Store) and was no longer compatible with older builds of Windows 10.

This is not mentioned on the Store page for the application, or anywhere else, really. Just one 1 star review on the application page saying this.
 
Simmonz said:
You probably don't want to hear this but Linux meets both of those requirements.
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Yup. I choose what I want to update and when I want to restart, none of that forced shit. I had to update 3 of my customers new Windows machines this week. One of the three hung on updating.
 
After two and half years of Windows 10 it's still interesting to see all of the different accounts of it. Personally it has worked out well, I've not had any major issues with it, even with new version upgrades though that can be a slow process. The Surface Book 2 for whatever reason is currently shipping with 1703 and the update to 1709 took about 2 hours on a brand new 15" 512GB SB2 but it went almost perfectly, just had to reinstall the WiFi driver, WiFi has a tendency to flake out after the FC update, saw a number of reports of that on reddit. But it's not like that type of thing never happed to me with other versions of Windows.
 
Mozgus said:
Of all the assload of reasons to hate Apple, this wasn't one of them. I can't fucking believe I feel the need to defend them right now, but I do. As I understand it, Apple decided that battery life was a bigger priority than performance, in the eyes of a casual user. And they failed to detail their method ahead of time. They've done consumers wrong in far worse ways a dozen fucking times over the years, but THIS is the final straw? Really? Shit, whatever.
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It utterly lays bare the fact that Apple flat out does not respect the user, at all, ever. We are children to be dictated to, not peers or even equals.
 
50% is pathetic. It's basically saying at minimum 25% of the Win 10 install base sits turned off or is never on long enough to pull the update down.
 
gunbust3r said:
50% is pathetic. It's basically saying at minimum 25% of the Win 10 install base sits turned off or is never on long enough to pull the update down.
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There are somewhere between 500 to 600 million Windows 10 PCs out there, so at minimum if these numbers actually reflect reality, were talking about at the low end about 250 million devices that have been updated in the last three months. That's the opposite of pathetic in absolute terms even when compared to the much larger market of Android phones.
 
I have no issues overall with Windows updates being pushed out. However, something about the FCU is really causing issues that were not occurring before in any other feature update. Oh well, maybe the next update will make things better, it is a New Year after all. :)
 
heatlesssun said:
After two and half years of Windows 10 it's still interesting to see all of the different accounts of it. Personally it has worked out well, I've not had any major issues with it, even with new version upgrades though that can be a slow process. The Surface Book 2 for whatever reason is currently shipping with 1703 and the update to 1709 took about 2 hours on a brand new 15" 512GB SB2 but it went almost perfectly, just had to reinstall the WiFi driver, WiFi has a tendency to flake out after the FC update, saw a number of reports of that on reddit. But it's not like that type of thing never happed to me with other versions of Windows.
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Agree it is interesting to hear others stories. We are just finishing up our Win10 migration, still have clean up but most devices are Win10 now.

When we upgraded to 1703 midway through the project, ~6k of 9k devices we found 5 apps that had to be reinstalled/repaired (out of 600). A couple of driver upgrades needed out of 20 devices or so...

Most of our upgrade issues had to do with the SCCM Task Sequence quirkiness, though we did have some (1-2%) get into a boot loop.

Right now we are testing deploying 1709 using SCCM updates rather than Task Sequence since we have soo many remote users we hope this will reduce issues. 1709 so far appears to handle user settings better than 1703.


We are still trying to figure out the right "process" to do this twice each year without too much overhead and labor, but over-all the new update methods are working and the problem areas do seem to be getting better as MS AND vendors learn from the last few feature upgrades.

I can't over state how nice it was when "wannacy" came about and had rabid security and management knocking at my door... One quick email stating the fix had been deployed for a couple of months AND applied multiple times via cumulative updates squashed any questions.
 
i just checked and am on windows 1709, which the web and my system claim are up to date.
i've always treated win10 as auto updates and not bothered looking into them beyond that.

there was 1 time where i had to restart and toggle the win+p command because it wanted to boot to a non-existent external monitor.

my 2 cents for windows: either use numerical values for names or dont. i shouldnt have to google whether not i am on the creator's update.

whatever.
 
dandirk said:
We don't appear to be having issues... My home machine is 1709 and connects ok.. but we just started testing 1709 for corporate devices.
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Thank you, it seems with the last update, it broke the Juniper client. Just updated to Fall Creator Update and haven't tested yet; thought I would ask first. Cheers! :)
 
Updated 4 PCs recently...the updates nerfed the network connection on 2 of them. Had to uninstall the network device drivers and windows re-detected them and reinstalled the drivers which fixed it.

Also not a fan of Windows attempting to re-open every previous window I had open after a reboot. There are easy enough workarounds, but this "feature" should be optional.
 
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