Former Pentagon X-Files Chief: Existence of UFOs “Proved beyond Reasonable Doubt”

Red Falcon said:
Lots actually.
In Europe, it's being overrun with Muslims (of which is a death blood cult in and of itself) and of which, its own heritage will be bread out of existence within the next few decades due to anti-Christian atheist leaders who believe in only themselves and whom don't care about their very own cultures, people, or supporters, both foreign and domestic.

In the USA, their culture and heritage is being torn down (especially on the east coast), religion is being stamped out in nearly every part of the country by individuals such as yourself, and the country is in the worst shape its ever been in after being run by a self-proclaimed Muslim and a staff of atheists (some of whom's idol was the atheist Chairman Mao) for over eight years.
Shall I continue? :)


...can't imagine why aliens don't want to communicate with the human race, it's just a total mystery...
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That thing I said earlier about some of the most vile hate spewing individuals I’ve ever met being Christians, thanks for reaffirming that and showing your true colors.
 
So wait ... someone is claiming Stalin was an atheist? Joseph Stalin? The guy named after St. Joseph, the product of a seminary? The guy who revived the Russian Orthodox Church? Really? What’s next someone claiming Hitler was an atheist?
 
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Epic| said:
What's funny is this jesus fellow, all powerful as he's typically described, could have guaranteed belief from everyone. There could be one religion, harmony in the world belief without threats of force and torture... And it would have been easy. Shit, instead of dying like a bitch and sneaking off to satisfy his own loophole he could have just stuck around. Why isn't he still there? Who could doubt it if this fucker had been up there 2000 years, unkillable? He could dole out ultimate knowledge. No cancer, hoverboards, AMD could be top dog, no flat earthers...

Instead all you've got is an absurd tale, drawn up by people who didn't know where the sun went at night, which no one in their right mind can believe to be based on fact.... But if you don't believe it you're going to be tortured forever... Because god loves you! That's what you do to your loved ones right? Set them on fire forever! Sick fuck detected

Anyone who believe this horse shit is automatically written off as damaged goods. There's just no way around it.
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Since you have it entirely wrong, no wonder no one would believe what you are saying as truth.
 
ManofGod said:
Since you have it entirely wrong, no wonder no one would believe what you are saying as truth.
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You feel it's not possible for your god to create an environment with irrefutable proof for all to witness? Intredasting
 
Epic| said:
You feel it's not possible for your god to create an environment with irrefutable proof for all to witness? Intredasting
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Nope, He already has done that. I am saying your description of who He is and what He is doing is wrong.
 
ManofGod said:
Nope, He already has done that. I am saying your description of who He is and what He is doing is wrong.
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We already have irrefutable proof? Hahahaha. Oh lawdy, is that why it's called faith?
You people believe the flimsiest shit. It's both hilarious and sad.
 
ManofGod said:
Nope, He already has done that. I am saying your description of who He is and what He is doing is wrong.
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He did? When? Show me this irrefutable proof please. OR are you talking about that collection of folk tales called the Bible? If the proof was irrefutable we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And if God is above all humans and his mind and plans for us are unfathomable, then how do you know Epic isn't right?
 
You've got to love the Christian defenders in the thread damning the non believers to burn in hell rather than trying to do the Christian thing and save our souls.

Perfect example of the true nature of these bible-thumping cult members who'd rather go through life fancying faith over reason.
 
Epic| said:
We already have irrefutable proof? Hahahaha. Oh lawdy, is that why it's called faith?
You people believe the flimsiest shit. It's both hilarious and sad.
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Faith in the One True GOD and who he says He is. Please, go learn what faith actually is first, which is not some blind, unknowing, stumbling in the dark thing. *Shrug* My people, as you put us, know Christ because he first loved us.

reaper12 said:
He did? When? Show me this irrefutable proof please. OR are you talking about that collection of folk tales called the Bible? If the proof was irrefutable we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And if God is above all humans and his mind and plans for us are unfathomable, then how do you know Epic isn't right?
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The evidence is in creation itself, where we can actually see and feel what He has done and is evidence of who GOD is. Any evidence of those "Aliens" you speak of? Irrefutable evidence?
 
Epic| said:
We already have irrefutable proof? Hahahaha. Oh lawdy, is that why it's called faith?
You people believe the flimsiest shit. It's both hilarious and sad.
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theplaidfad said:
You've got to love the Christian defenders in the thread damning the non believers to burn in hell rather than trying to do the Christian thing and save our souls.

Perfect example of the true nature of these bible-thumping cult members who'd rather go through life fancying faith over reason.
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Who was saying the Christians are the vile hateful people? I sure feel a lot of love and tolerance here :confused:
 
Neslepax said:
I think what bothers a lot of atheists about Christianity, in particular, is how self-righteous the faith and faithful can be. I cannot think of another denomination that is so blatant in their attempts to get people to join the congregation, only to immediately turn around and ask for money for one reason or another (televangelists are especially bad about this, as is prosperity gospel). Many Christians also love to throw around how great their God is and how you need their God's love, especially the recently converted. They can also be some of the biggest religious hypocrites: go to church every Sunday and behave appropriately, but spend the rest of the week breaking almost every tenant of the Bible while conveniently forgetting the lessons of Jesus. This is so inspiring. It makes Christians and Christianity an easy target.

Here is my simple problem with Christianity, based entirely on what the Bible states and what pastors love to talk about during sermons: We are all God's children and he loves us all dearly. However, children are dying of starvation, being tortured, raped, molested, etc., every moment of the day, somewhere in the world. Now, you (Red Falcon), and others like you, love to state the tired excuse of "why would God, or Jesus Christ, fix what humans are more than certainly capable of fixing themselves?" This is such an annoying cop out. Forget about the adults. Just focus on the millions of suffering children, those who only lived long enough to die at the hands of a psychopath. Where was your God? He is our father, right? Where was his infinite love when those most vulnerable needed it? Oh, I get it. He was waiting for us to fix it. He was just sitting back, relaxing, waiting for us again. Oh, there goes another innocent child. And another. And another. What kind of "father" with "infinite love" would act like this? What human father would not give their own life to protect their children from harm? But I guess you would then say "well, God has a plan for us all." Well, as I once told a pastor who gave me that exact response to the aforementioned argument, your God can kiss my ***.
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To be a christian is arrogance in of itself. By being of that faith you're literally claiming to know everything about the origin of life, and the origin of humanity, and the origin of the universe. If that's not arrogant then I don't know what is. I have so many problems with faith beyond their aggressive recruitment practices. Just a few examples:

No christian alive takes every letter of the bible as law, and no christian alive today lives by all those laws. So is it god's word or not? If it's god's word why don't you follow it to the letter? Or do you presume to know better than god? Then what is all that about morality can only come of god? Without faith you have no morality according to christians. So what do you base your ala carte choices of what to heed from the bible and what not to, if not some other form of morality outside of religion? Human morality. And apparently this human morality is superior to that of god's since christians use it to select what of god's teachings is good and worth following and what is not.

And they always bring up historical figures who were mass murderers who also happened to be atheists. Oh, and how many maniacs and mass murders were religious? That doesn't matter? Some mass murderers might have been atheists, but they didn't commit all those crimes in the name of atheism. The same cannot be said about religious fanatics however. For example if a carpenter (pun very much intended) goes on a massacre, do they also shun all carpenters, because someone who happened to be a carpenter did something horrible? Because being a murderer has about as much to do with being an atheist as being a carpenter.

I'm disappointed in humanity over and over again, because no reasoned mind can take any of these gods seriously. It's self delusion on a mass scale.
 
ManofGod said:
Faith in the One True GOD and who he says He is. Please, go learn what faith actually is first, which is not some blind, unknowing, stumbling in the dark thing. *Shrug* My people, as you put us, know Christ because he first loved us.



The evidence is in creation itself, where we can actually see and feel what He has done and is evidence of who GOD is. Any evidence of those "Aliens" you speak of? Irrefutable evidence?
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This argument ceased holding any water when we started learning how life actually evolved and being able to back this up with actual facts and data, and started understanding the earth wasn't flat and the universe wasn't a small bubble. Creation isn't in fact proof of god on any level. As for aliens, I believe in them in as much as the odds we are the only life in the universe are impossible. Do I believe they have visited here or that there is even life as advanced or more advanced than us? Hard to say as there is no hard evidence as such. There is lots of unexplained phenomena, but it is just that..unexplained.

I believe what can actually be verified with unbiased reproducible evidence. If "God" would like to provide some of this evidence I'll be more than happy to follow whatever faith system it says is the right one. For now though, every single faith system on the planet is an obvious construct of man and demonstrably false. I'm sorry but anyone with the ability to be even slightly critical cannot actually read more than 3 translations of the book that has over 3000 translations and not recognize it as complete and utter bunk.
 
ManofGod said:
Faith in the One True GOD and who he says He is. Please, go learn what faith actually is first, which is not some blind, unknowing, stumbling in the dark thing. *Shrug* My people, as you put us, know Christ because he first loved us.
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Who does God say he is and how is he the One True God? From earliest times Man has wanted to believe that something exists after death. I bet you laugh at Ancient Egypt and their Gods? And I am sure they laughed and mocked earlier "belief" systems. Yet, Egypt had their system of beliefs for over 3000 years. I am sure you don't believe in Buddhism or Hinduism either? Both of those religions have been going for 1000s of years.

ManofGod said:
The evidence is in creation itself, where we can actually see and feel what He has done and is evidence of who GOD is. Any evidence of those "Aliens" you speak of? Irrefutable evidence?
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That's not evidence? Show me that he created everything. How do you know? Because some man wrote a story about it? Do believe in Adam and Eve too? That we are all descendant from 2 people? Give me some proof, show me some deductive reasoning as to how you know that a God created everything? We used to worship the sun and moon etc. until we expanded our knowledge and learned the truth. And as we expand our knowledge and find out more and more, how will this current God fare any better? We have already shown that the Old Testament in the Bible is mostly just stories and that the first gospel was written around 62AD and there is not one bit of text from an original source.

Any evidence of Aliens, nope, I don't, but, I have at least used some reasoning to work out why I think there are other lifeforms out there. Science has already found planets that are very similar to ours out there in the Universe. Planets in what's called the Goldilocks zone. In our own solar system there is a moon called Europa which has all the right conditions for some kind of micro-orgasm to grow. And as I said in an earlier post, the Universe has trillions of planets. It would be egoistical in the extreme to believe that a God created all this for one planet for Humans and that there is no life anywhere else?

No, Man has always wanted to believe in something more, always wanted to think that we were special. Religion was born out of that need. Look how we make ourselves out to be more than we are, ancient Egyptians rulers thought they were Gods, according to the Bible we were made in God's image, etc. etc. You get the picture. Religion was born out of the desire to want/be something more, clever people figured out that it's a brilliant means of control. And here we are today.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
I believe what can actually be verified with unbiased reproducible evidence. If "God" would like to provide some of this evidence I'll be more than happy to follow whatever faith system it says is the right one. For now though, every single faith system on the planet is an obvious construct of man and demonstrably false. I'm sorry but anyone with the ability to be even slightly critical cannot actually read more than 3 translations of the book that has over 3000 translations and not recognize it as complete and utter bunk.
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Very good post!! Because I was going to mention that in mine about the various translations but forgot, glad somebody brought it up.
 
M76 said:
To be a christian is arrogance in of itself. By being of that faith you're literally claiming to know everything about the origin of life, and the origin of humanity, and the origin of the universe. If that's not arrogant then I don't know what is. I have so many problems with faith beyond their aggressive recruitment practices. Just a few examples:
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No, we just claim to know what God has revealed to us in the Bible, and we believe that it is true. There is much that was not revealed, and for that, we make no exclusive claims of knowledge.

M76 said:
No christian alive takes every letter of the bible as law, and no christian alive today lives by all those laws. So is it god's word or not? If it's god's word why don't you follow it to the letter? Or do you presume to know better than god? Then what is all that about morality can only come of god? Without faith you have no morality according to christians. So what do you base your ala carte choices of what to heed from the bible and what not to, if not some other form of morality outside of religion? Human morality. And apparently this human morality is superior to that of god's since christians use it to select what of god's teachings is good and worth following and what is not.
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Much to unravel from this paragraph, but let's start with the first statement. The Bible is not written as a text book, a reference book, or a law book. It was written so we may know God, and know what He expects of us. That is why not every "letter of the bible" is taken as law. We don't "pick and choose," we look at the whole picture. When Jesus was asked what the greatest commandment was, he replied "love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and the second greatest command is love your neighbor as yourself. Upon these two hang all the law and the prophets."

M76 said:
And they always bring up historical figures who were mass murderers who also happened to be atheists. Oh, and how many maniacs and mass murders were religious? That doesn't matter? Some mass murderers might have been atheists, but they didn't commit all those crimes in the name of atheism. The same cannot be said about religious fanatics however. For example if a carpenter (pun very much intended) goes on a massacre, do they also shun all carpenters, because someone who happened to be a carpenter did something horrible? Because being a murderer has about as much to do with being an atheist as being a carpenter.
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I will agree this is a weak argument, but it is something to consider, that the world view adhered by these mass murderers allowed them to justify their actions. Also, when you study "religious wars" you will find that they were actually political wars, done in the name of religion, but not actually inspired by religion.

M76 said:
I'm disappointed in humanity over and over again, because no reasoned mind can take any of these gods seriously. It's self delusion on a mass scale.
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Considering that there are many well-reasoned individuals who have solid faith in God, and even the God of the Bible, you might want to consider your rationale a bit more. I suggest you study on C.S. Lewis's conversion from Atheism to Christianity, as well as the more contemporary Lee Strobel's book The Case for Christ. I have no expectations that these will persuade you to become a Christian, but perhaps can help you understand better that faith in God and being a Christian is not unreasonable or unrational.
 
reaper12, you're wasting your time. You can't have a logical argument with anyone wearing their faith blinders. A bunch of followers following fables who choose to follow faith over reason.

Protip: That wasn't god you felt at church, that was the pastors hand in your back pocket fishing for you wallet.
 
tangoseal said:
Nothing can travel faster than light linearly. However space time is traveling faster and much faster indeed than light. Explain the red shift of inter stellar objects that red shift until we see no more shift. They have in essence moved faster than the speed of light and the very light they emit or reflect at us is also moving away faster than it can travel it's self.

This is the expansion of the universe in all directions. That is why in the infinitely large universe we see a border about 14 billion light years away where anything that is further out no longer registers as visible in any spectrum. It is simply being expanded away by the space time fabric than light its self.

There is more to physics than laws shared in the halls of high-schools and basic college courses to meet general req's.

Additionally the big bang wasn't an explosion. And the theory of all matter being packed into an infinitely dense point is also no longer supported by science. Rudimentary early considerations were made that proposed such an earlier precursor. However, today the equations and new mathematics are suggesting that there was literally nothing. Not a peep of energy and that it suddenly just occurred. Nothing really exploded, it was just nothing and then suddenly everything we know of was materialized. The fact that the space time fabric was also created at the same time is the very object that is expanding but matter its self isn't really moving outwards on its own. Sure we have momentum within the space time but the fabric is in effect expanding faster and faster with time. Nothing can explain the movement much less why it is actually gaining momentum to the point of faster than light.

This is called relativity. But well save that for another discussion of which is a tangent to the original declaration of the US Govt. official declaring that we indeed have many UFO's that display a form of intelligence in their movement of which many members of this forum are too dense to just accept as ... ok fine... there are UFOs that display intelligent maneuvering. It doesn't mean aliens are confirmed. It just means a high ranking ex govt. official has leaked something intersting.

But too many people remain mentally in the 17th century to this very day. And there isnt a damned thing you can do about it.

Idiocracy is on the way in. You can clearly see based on worldwide research that the average intelligence quotient is in fact declining rapidly with no ceasing as the decades progress. Sources are readily available using common search engines.
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I suggest you read up on the conditions of the universe as the big bang happened. The speed of light limitations do indeed break down according to equations. The speed of light is not consistent under certain extreme conditions. It is the basis for papers on warp drive. But the energy required would be ENORMOUS. (Hence why it only happened during the big bang and only for a short while) If you need links I will provide them.

https://www.theguardian.com/science...s-view-on-speed-of-light-could-soon-be-tested

http://scienceline.org/2007/07/ask-romero-speedoflight/

https://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-interstellar-spaceflight.html

And I'm more aware of the multi verse theory that says the universe is ever expanding and that it will create new universes as it expands. And at some point the Higgs Boson may destabilize and destroy it all.

And if you want to argue semantics about what an explosion is, go to Webster.

BTW: Red shift occurs because red does indeed travel a tad bit slower as objects move away from us. Blue/Indigo/Violet is the least affected.
 
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NoOther said:
That does not exclude the ability to do interstellar travel. You are assuming that alien life has the same lifespan or sense of time as we do. You are also assuming that the UFOs are controlled by biologic life. Why would one have to travel at near the speed of light or more? Traveling at less than the speed of light can still get one from place to place. There was just a link here about NASA planning to travel to another solar system.
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There are only about 6 star systems that could be reached, from earth, (travelling at 10% of the speed of light) in under 100 years of space flight. Every other star system, in existence, is further away. Those speeds are just not going to cut it.
 
Draax said:
There are only about 6 star systems that could be reached, from earth, (travelling at 10% of the speed of light) in under 100 years of space flight. Every other star system, in existence, is further away. Those speeds are just not going to cut it.
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Plus we have to figure out how to solve the communications issue. Building a low powered nuclear battery that last 100 years isn't an issue. Building a transmitter powerful enough is. Do you know how many dishes have to point at Voyager 1 to talk to it?
 
DigitalGriffin said:
I suggest you read up on the conditions of the universe as the big bang happened. The speed of light limitations do indeed break down according to equations. The speed of light is not consistent under certain extreme conditions. It is the basis for papers on warp drive. But the energy required would be ENORMOUS. (Hence why it only happened during the big bang and only for a short while) If you need links I will provide them.

https://www.theguardian.com/science...s-view-on-speed-of-light-could-soon-be-tested

http://scienceline.org/2007/07/ask-romero-speedoflight/

https://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-interstellar-spaceflight.html

And I'm more aware of the multi verse theory that says the universe is ever expanding and that it will create new universes as it expands. And at some point the Higgs Boson may destabilize and destroy it all.

And if you want to argue semantics about what an explosion is, go to Webster.

BTW: Red shift occurs because red does indeed travel a tad bit slower as objects move away from us. Blue/Indigo/Violet is the least affected.
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Nobody knows the conditions of the universe that long ago.

And you are wrong about shift. All light shift is .. is the doppler affect with light. I have no idea what your trying to assume here.
 
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tangoseal said:
Its all theory.

Even what I suggested. Nobodybknows the conditions of the universe that long ago. No one literally and if they do then they are on the pipe.
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You just denied your own God. He's supposed to be all-knowing. If there is a hell, I'll see you there.
 
theplaidfad said:
You just denied your own God. He's supposed to be all-knowing. If there is a hell, I'll see you there.
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No I denied nothing...I gave up talking about God because you guys are nothing but die hard atheist. Discussions end when one draws the line. Atheists have drawn the line and refuse to open up.


Ciao'
 
tangoseal said:
No I denied nothing...I gave up talking about God because you guys are nothing but die hard atheist. Discussions end when one draws the line. Atheists have drawn the line and refuse to open up.


Ciao'
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That is so very Christian of you. Another one of your brethren, earlier in this thread, was preaching about how the two most important messages from Jesus involved unconditional love for God and loving your neighbor. I guess atheists don't qualify? This is just another example of what I stated earlier: Christians love to talk about how great their faith is, but are very, very bad at practicing it outside of church on Sunday.
 
Neslepax said:
That is so very Christian of you. Another one of your brethren, earlier in this thread, was preaching about how the two most important messages from Jesus involved unconditional love for God and loving your neighbor. I guess atheists don't qualify? This is just another example of what I stated earlier: Christians love to talk about how great their faith is, but are very, very bad at practicing it outside of church on Sunday.
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You have even greater contempt and rage in your reply. This is why I leave. Love has nothing to do with it. You are completely attacking and there is no point to even attempt reconciliation.
 
tangoseal said:
You have even greater contempt and rage in your reply. This is why I leave. Love has nothing to do with it. You are completely attacking and there is no point to even attempt reconciliation.
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And there you have it. The question of "WWJD?" has been answered.
 
theplaidfad said:
And there you have it. The question of "WWJD?" has been answered.
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That is exactly what he would have done and did on many occassions.

Titus 9 and 10...
"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them"
 
tangoseal said:
That is exactly what he would have done and did on many occassions.

Titus 9 and 10...
"But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them"
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Oh, wow, you really went deep on that one. Titus? Seriously? Apparently you aren't aware that there is a lot of doubt about Paul being the actual author. But I doubt you care, since evidence and logical reasoning don't matter when you have the Good Book. Please give me some more deep wisdom from the Book of Fairy Tales.
 
5150Joker said:
That thing I said earlier about some of the most vile hate spewing individuals I’ve ever met being Christians, thanks for reaffirming that and showing your true colors.
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I think you and the rest of your "understanding" atheist brethren have shown your true colors as well, doing nothing but posting condescending insults in this thread without backing up anything with any factual or historical data to back your claims.
That thing I said about atheists being even worse, thanks for reaffirming that and showing your true colors.

Have a great day. :)
I'm out.
 
Draax said:
There are only about 6 star systems that could be reached, from earth, (travelling at 10% of the speed of light) in under 100 years of space flight. Every other star system, in existence, is further away. Those speeds are just not going to cut it.
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Why would we need to limit ourselves to 100 years? And also there are many current theories based on our understanding of physics that may allow travel farther in far less time. The problem really lies in the fact that it is incredibly expensive and perhaps prohibitively dangerous to test some of the theories.

Also our current understanding of physics is that we do not fully understand the physics of our own solar system much less that of our galaxy or even the universe. So I really do not understand what your point is here?
 
Let's cut to the chase, shall we? I have never seen a shred of empirical evidence for the existence of god.

Requiring evidence in support of fantastic claims of the supernatural does not make one "closed-minded" or "die-hard." It makes one rational.
 
Back on topic: It does not follow that, assuming aliens exist, that they could or would visit Earth. Or if they did visit, that said visit would occur in the tiny flash of time during which humans have existed. Or even that we would recognize each other as life if it did.
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Plus we have to figure out how to solve the communications issue. Building a low powered nuclear battery that last 100 years isn't an issue. Building a transmitter powerful enough is. Do you know how many dishes have to point at Voyager 1 to talk to it?
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We could use quantum paired particles such as that... here on earth a north orientation is a 1 and south orientation is a 0 and east or west is a reset for back to back 1s or 0s. Flip it fast enough for digital communications. Regardless of distance we do know that quantum entangled particles react to each other instantly regardless of time space.

If we could implement this we could have instant comms anywhere in the universe.
 
bugleyman said:
Back on topic: It does not follow that, assuming aliens exist, that they could or would visit Earth. Or if they did visit, that said visit would occur in the tiny flash of time during which humans have existed. Or even that we would recognize each other as life if it did.
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How does that not follow? Statistically speaking, solar systems close to ours should have had similar gestating periods for life as ours did. Statistically speaking the chances of overlap are good for systems close to us, and worse for systems further out. We have barely explored the depths of our own solar system much less that of those around us. Of course statistically speaking of our current knowledge, the threshold for life conditions is minimal and the chance of finding the same complexity of life as on Earth in our time period is astronomically small. That does not mean the chance is zero though.
 
tangoseal said:
We could use quantum paired particles such as that... here on earth a north orientation is a 1 and south orientation is a 0 and east or west is a reset for back to back 1s or 0s. Flip it fast enough for digital communications. Regardless of distance we do know that quantum entangled particles react to each other instantly regardless of time space.

If we could implement this we could have instant comms anywhere in the universe.
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Fast yes, instantaneous is questionable. Quantum communication currently is limited to the speed of light (it uses photon states and lasers). This would require you setup a network of satellites and would need to relay the information through them. Setting up this network over such large distances as from Earth to say...Alpha Centauri would be incredibly difficult and would not be instantaneous as you are going through at least 4 relays. That would still only reduce the time for a one way communication (from my understanding) to about 4-5 years (being that AC is 4.3 lightyears away).

For entanglement, it does not actually carry any communication. With entanglement you know only that the particle has shifted in some way. The shift is random, so there is no way really to correlate any information from that shift. Also, currently entanglement is limited by distance. The further you move the particles apart the more unstable they become and risk unraveling the connection.
 
NoOther said:
How does that not follow? Statistically speaking, solar systems close to ours should have had similar gestating periods for life as ours did. Statistically speaking the chances of overlap are good for systems close to us, and worse for systems further out. We have barely explored the depths of our own solar system much less that of those around us. Of course statistically speaking of our current knowledge, the threshold for life conditions is minimal and the chance of finding the same complexity of life as on Earth in our time period is astronomically small. That does not mean the chance is zero though.
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I do not think your assumptions about the similarities of nearby life valid (or statistical). We don't know whether life originated on Earth or caught a ride. We don't know when these nearby planets may have undergone ELAs. In short, we just don't know.

Besides, I didn't the odds of encountering extra terrestrial life it was zero. I just pointed out that the argument "surely other life exists someplace in the universe" isn't particularly relevant when trying to argue that UFOs are alien visitors.
 
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