Even Mark Hamill Hates the 'New' Luke Skywalker

While I can appreciate what Hamill says, when he gets to that part about going away for 6 months or whatever to regroup, etc, one can look back at TESB and before that RofS (episode 3, a prequel) to see that Yoda, arguably considered the greatest Jedi of that time period and the one always looked upon for answers and how to handle things, himself decided to go into exile on Dagobah for at least 2 decades as Luke was sent to Tatooine with Obi-Wan to grow up and Luke doesn't meet Yoda on Dagobah till he's roughly 30 years old or something close to it.

So yeah, in the face of insurmountable opposition there's not really much else to do but run off and hide till some point in time when opportunity presents itself.

And Lucas himself wrote 1-6 so, if that's not considered to be "the ways of the Jedi" then I don't know what the fuck would be. :D

Slightly different though, in the first case you have a Jedi order going into hiding pursued by a galactic empire (and as A New Hope tells you still known/active within the rebellion) whereas here Luke has a runaway apprentice who have murdered and destroyed his pupils.
 
Forgive my SW ignorance, but is there a general direction Disney is taking this story arc?

With a huge universe like SW, I would assume they would know where they are taking this story.

I think that's why the Marvel Universe is working so well, the story arc is centered on meeting up with Thanos. All the movies are leading up to battle him. It was set that way from almost day 1 (maybe day 3, or the Saturday after).

Whats the plan with SW? Who's in charge of the direction of the ship?

The direction is basically nothing matters, the force can do anything and anyone can use the force.
 
I give SW TLJ a solid meh/10. Disappointed in the direction and how they treated Luke's character and Disney/director just didn't care about the past franchise at all.

It should be a fun, campy, space opera with a good story with the protagonists. Mix in some hope and the audience should be cheering for the rebels near the end of the moving (which didn't happen in the packed theatre I was in).

Not excited about where this franchise is going. I want the 80's back :(
 
Just saw it today. I wish I had a notepad so I could have marked all the moments in the film that were just WRONG, but I mentally gave up keeping track halfway through. This movie violates so many of the Star Wars "rules" it made me mad, and that's not counting the mostly bad dialog and way too forced comedy parts.

I'll try to do this without giving away much.

What they did with Leia in space was just fking stupid. And after.

Space bombers? WTF? Where are the B-Wings loaded up with proton torpedos... oh noes it's WW2 and the B-17's have to bomb the enemy in space.

Poe's X-wing vs the Dreadnaught.... what the hell. Anyone who has played X-Wing knows that is just stupid and impossible.

Snope, the all powerful super sith alien being, well he should have seen that coming. That entire fight scene was just bleh.

The Monte Carlo-ish casino part was entirely stupid and the whole thing should have wound up on the editing room floor. That also would have solved about 20+ minutes of anguish. All that was not worth the "comedy" parts about BB8 being a slot machine.

Admiral purple hair's cruiser attack decision was about 30 minutes too late. She could have done that at any point without 90% of her people getting the shaft.

The entire thing on the salt planet was pointless. And THEN the Luke part.... POINTLESS.

Rey's entire arc is just bad, and those "special moments" are just acid on the cake.



I cannot believe I am going to say this, but Force Awakens was the better movie. And that means this one SUCKS. Rogue One better than both. Blade Runner 2049 was better than any of those.

Any random episode of the SW Rebels series is better than this nonsense.

My favorite part of the movie was when Chewie was trying to eat dinner but kept getting interrupted.

2 stars out of 5. The whole Luke ending is unforgiveable. I will not pay money to see another movie in this series. I don't know if I have high hopes for the Han Solo or the Obi Wan movie now.

edit - I forgot about Yoda. I guess I liked that he was the more puppety version from Empire and not the bizarro cgi-puppet hybrid from the prequels. I guess that is somehow appropriate. But his scene was pointless. Because if Yoda could do THAT, why wasn't there a ghosty Anakin telling his grandson that he's a little shithead?

edit 2 - a lot of the Star Wars "science" was off, but WHEN did giant cruisers start using unleaded and not have giant fusion reactor cores? There has NEVER, EVER, EVER been a mention of the big ships using fuel, and barely ever mentioned even with the smaller ships? (there is a scene in a ANH where they are tanking up the x-wings, but never brought up again... ever)
 
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Just saw it today. I wish I had a notepad so I could have marked all the moments in the film that were just WRONG, but I mentally gave up keeping track halfway through. This movie violates so many of the Star Wars "rules" it made me mad, and that's not counting the mostly bad dialog and way too forced comedy parts.

I'll try to do this without giving away much.

What they did with Leia in space was just fking stupid. And after.

Space bombers? WTF? Where are the B-Wings loaded up with proton torpedos... oh noes it's WW2 and the B-17's have to bomb the enemy in space.

Poe's X-wing vs the Dreadnaught.... what the hell. Anyone who has played X-Wing knows that is just stupid and impossible.

Snope, the all powerful super sith alien being, well he should have seen that coming. That entire fight scene was just bleh.

The Monte Carlo-ish casino part was entirely stupid and the whole thing should have wound up on the editing room floor. That also would have solved about 20+ minutes of anguish. All that was not worth the "comedy" parts about BB8 being a slot machine.

Admiral purple hair's cruiser attack decision was about 30 minutes too late. She could have done that at any point without 90% of her people getting the shaft.

The entire thing on the salt planet was pointless. And THEN the Luke part.... POINTLESS.

Rey's entire arc is just bad, and those "special moments" are just acid on the cake.



I cannot believe I am going to say this, but Force Awakens was the better movie. And that means this one SUCKS. Rogue One better than both. Blade Runner 2049 was better than any of those.

Any random episode of the SW Rebels series is better than this nonsense.

My favorite part of the movie was when Chewie was trying to eat dinner but kept getting interrupted.

2 stars out of 5. The whole Luke ending is unforgiveable. I will not pay money to see another movie in this series. I don't know if I have high hopes for the Han Solo or the Obi Wan movie now.

edit - I forgot about Yoda. I guess I liked that he was the more puppety version from Empire and not the bizarro cgi-puppet hybrid from the prequels. I guess that is somehow appropriate. But his scene was pointless. Because if Yoda could do THAT, why wasn't there a ghosty Anakin telling his grandson that he's a little shithead?

Well said!
 
I have been genuinely trying to understand the star wars phenomenon (I personally think these movies deserve very little praise).
I think these movies are reflection pools for society, and people just keep going there, and adding things in their minds, taking out things in their minds.
Its some strange, weird dynamic, makes me wonder if engineered, or just happenstance. I think its just happenstance.. I good place to be though to make money.
 
Kylo Ren (where's Stimpy!?) is hardly a compelling bad guy...nor is a disembodied head named Snark......or Smoke...or Spoke....Snopes?!? Whatever......the Galactic Empire had two scary dudes driving it and an army of "ok they're nazi's" bad guys to back them up, these new films have Scooby Doo bad guys and, I guess, the rebellion sure sucks considering they're still at it 40 years later....nice job, losers..


100% agree, Kylo Ren is a wanna-be bitch who just wants to be the "new VADER", but isnt even close, while Luke is as big a whiner as ever. best part of movie is the Porg / chewy sceen
 
I have been genuinely trying to understand the star wars phenomenon (I personally think these movies deserve very little praise).
I think these movies are reflection pools for society, and people just keep going there, and adding things in their minds, taking out things in their minds.
Its some strange, weird dynamic, makes me wonder if engineered, or just happenstance. I think its just happenstance.. I good place to be though to make money.


much of the WTF of Starwars was the Massive advance in special effects at the time, in 1977 the best "sci-fi" effects out there were showcased in 2001 a space odessy. then Starwars came out and it was really a WTF / OMFG time. it was literally decades ahead of everything along with a epic soundtrack made the whole package a instant hit. I remember my dad worked at the theater at the time and as a 7 year old i must have sat through it at least 25-30 times, it really ingrained itself into my life. I enjoyed the second 3 movies, but they are kind of a joke compaired to the "origanal " 3. the current crop of flicks part 7 and 8 are ok, but nothing special. the only "newer" branch that fits the origanal storyline and captures the same excitement is rouge one. witch could have been named chapter 3.5 .
 
Let me guess, is the new Skywalker flamboyantly gay like all Hollywood productions lately? :D
 
I give SW TLJ a solid meh/10. Disappointed in the direction and how they treated Luke's character and Disney/director just didn't care about the past franchise at all.

It should be a fun, campy, space opera with a good story with the protagonists. Mix in some hope and the audience should be cheering for the rebels near the end of the moving (which didn't happen in the packed theatre I was in).

Not excited about where this franchise is going. I want the 80's back :(

Imo you can blame lucas for that, he should have continued the movies when the main cast was young enough to actually continue their roles, the prequels he did he could have done anytime because he needed a new cast anyways, but he waited too long to continue the sage, same thing he did with Indianna Jones.
 
If I could be bothered I'd make a meme of a book titled 'How To Destroy a Franchise in 3 Easy Steps' by "Disney, the Electronic Arts of the Movie World".

Now that I think about it Disney should probably buy EA, they'd go together quite well.
 
Wait, is it just me or does Mark Hamill look like Grandpa Simpson yelling "get off my lawn" in that picture?
 
The direction is basically nothing matters, the force can do anything and anyone can use the force.
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Honestly the movie had the cloths of star wars but just not the guts. Really didn't like how SEVERAL of the characters were written in this script. This is also one of the issues with changing your director and writer for every movie. There's no continuity or consistency when anyone can write their own version of a Star Wars movie.

I can understand this and I wondered after seeing the movie how it would have been if JJ did it. He is going to be the writer/director for Episode 9 which is strange since Rian pretty much killed away the mystery behind Snoke and the Knights of Ren and perhaps more. So now JJ has to somehow carry on and I have no idea where it could go from here seeing how the movie ended.
 
Disney totally screwed this universe up. This movie called "New Hope" was mind blowing for me at 9 years old seeing it on the big screen "I mean a real big screen, not the BS screens of today" in 1977, it was like nothing anyone had ever witnessed in a theater.

This is a joke on so many levels.

A New Hope wasn't made to market toys, so it wasn't skewed towards children the way later films were.
 
Star Wars used to stand for something, we knew that when the classic theme started playing and the text started rolling you were in for a treat. But just because disney uses the same brand, and the same rolling text and the same theme, doesn't mean what you're going to see is any good. We have been conditioned to expect a great movie when it comes to SW. And some people still act like they saw a good movie, because they're too lazy to think about it for one second that this was actually garbage.

The last jedi starts with utterly ridiculing the main antagonists of the movie. That's not how you set up. If you paint your main antagonists like incompetent fools right away then where do you get the suspense from? The sense of risk? Why are you supposed to root for the good guys? You ruin the stakes right out the door. Even writers of children's books know that initially you must give the upper hand to your bad guys. That's the only way you can generate tension. The movie tells you that the only way the first order achieves anything is if the good guys let them through their own foolishness.

If the first order can't hunt down one single ship of the resistance in the first half of the movie, then how did they wage war against a fleet. The didn't, because based on this they are supposed to have failed miserably and been defeated long ago.

Really this is the main storyline? That one ship keeps chasing and shooting another for 90 minutes? That was supposed to be a 15 minute opening sequence at most. Like in a new hope when the star destroyer chases the corvette. But here this is the main storyline for a major part of the movie?!

And they degraded luke skywalker to be some sort of hermit? And rey can learn everything about the force in 2 days? Then why did the jedi have orders and temples and academys, why did they train padawans from age 4? Luke's book burning lunacy is perfect symbolysm for what disney is doing with star wars. They're removing any kind of depth and meaning, and complexity, any kind of deeper lore, that would stand in the way of making stupid merchandise and flashy shit.

And what about the rest of the resistance? The characters are completely cold with no regard to the lives and safety of their comrades, in fact they're the first and foremost cause of their peril. Every death is completely shoved aside and forgotten in two scenes. These are supposed to be your brothers in arms, who you fought with for years or decades!

And there is the completely unnecessary side story with finn and the diversity hire. Who was supposed to be a main character?! This entire part is like it's from a disney checklist, that said "you must have an animal rescue sidestory" If you removed the entire storyline the movie would be the same, and would run a normal time instead of this overbloated 150 minutes.

And they degraded star wars into a propaganda piece for their identity politics. Star wars is supposed to be about the sith vs the jedi or dark vs the light, or the resistance vs the empire. Not about the green haired feminist resistance vs. the evil league of white thirtysome males. They used to have exotic aliens in it, now their only concern is equal representation of all human races from early 21st century earth. Who cares about acting skills? You're black and a feminist too? Hired. you're half asian half innuit half eskimo? You got the role, no need to audition for it! After all, people only go to see a star wars movie to be reminded of the political struggles and exact racial representation of the real world there.
 
My issues with TLJ (spoilers abound below -- you have been warned):

  1. Leia awakening herself from death via The Force. In the vacuum of SPACE. Most cringe-worthy moment in the entire Star Wars film collection to date (including Revenge of the Sith's horrible lines).
  2. Snope was built to be a mysterious and powerful villain in TFA, wiped out via Jedi mind trick in this one. At least the Emperor was built up properly to be someone that Vader feared, and got an appropriately-paced end. If I knew this was coming, I would much rather have the Admiral Thrawn - ysalamiri (Force bubble) explanation, a la Timothy Zahn's EU take.
  3. Luke is shown to be a grumpy old man with a serious case of "Get Off My Lawn"-itis. At least Obi-Wan displayed compassion and care as that "crazy old hermit Ben" in Episode 4.
  4. Luke milking weird animal tits for "fresh milk" (along with creepy, dirty old man smile) and the Chewie/Porg eating scene? I don't need to be told propagandistic specifics on how I should conduct my life, thank you very much.
  5. Porgs: the Ewoks of this movie, for pure monetary reasons. 'Nuff said.
  6. Spacefight scenes were very, very poorly handled (Rogue One had the best Star Wars ship battles of any of the lot), and Poe's "trick" was ridiculous. The Empire of the first three films would've blown Poe out of space immediately.
  7. Laura Dern's character did nothing at all; literally nothing. She could've been written out of the script, simply by crossing out her name and inserting someone else (Ackbar, maybe? Would be a nice send-off for him; better than what he got).
  8. The whole "Vegas in space" was a colossal waste of time and visuals -- the Mos Eisley spaceport got the point across a lot better, as did Lando Calrissian's Cloud City (heck, Lando's entire character was more effective than Vegas in space. And he had less total screen time, too!).
  9. Hacker did nothing at all; neither to advance the film, or to bring up certain key points, or even to provide humor. Pointless.
  10. Vegas in space also being filled with "greedy, warmongering war profiteers, wantonly partying like there's no tomorrow"? See point 4.
  11. Lack of properly-spaced build-up means that when the protagonists meet each other, there isn't any sense of relief (if anything, it felt like the cringey feel-good friend moments in very bad 80's films).
  12. Rey has no training whatsoever in the Force; then, apparently, becomes the greatest Force talent ever seen on screen, because she doesn't even need training, too -- not even lightsaber training, which doesn't require the Force, but DOES require a specific physical skill set, which she apparently magically obtains, because plot magic > all. It's not plausible by any standard. Then, she goes on to defeat not only Kylo Ren (in TFA), but also trained martial artists (Snoke's take on the Imperial Guard) who use kyber crystal weapons. With a lightsaber. Both the Sith and the Jedi must be rolling in their afterlives (along with a ton of martial artists of all disciplines). I conclude that Yoda's scene justifying to Luke why she doesn't need the Jedi and is so skilled (naturally, as opposed to talented -- WTF?) was because either Yoda was stoned in the Jedi afterlife, or Yaddle was giving him a hard time at home (no more sammich!). And where are the Force Ghosts of Obi-Wan and Anakin? Oh wait -- they went on strike!
  13. Land battle was a very small-scale, cheap version of the invasion of Hoth -- really small scale (You could do this on a tabletop with pennies, nickels, quarters, and dimes). Pathetic.
  14. What were the remnants of the Republic doing after the destruction of their capital planet? According to Rian Johnson, this movie takes place almost immediately after TFA -- so wouldn't some Republic elements come out to reinforce Leia (now that they aren't tied down by the Republic bureaucracy? And where is the Republic's armed forces? Aren't they taking the First Order more seriously now? And why is the First Order bothering with a truly tiny rag-tag guerilla force, when they could be easily grabbing the rest of the Galaxy for themselves? Johnson seems to know nothing of history (political, military, or social).
  15. Animal abuse in space. Seriously? There are more important things to worry about, like the First Order. See point 4.
  16. Rose's character was the most pointless insertion into the film, except for the Porgs.
  17. I see where they tried for the quasi-"Game of Thrones" character kill-off into some of all this, but the setups for that were not convincing, or plausible.
  18. Johnson's limited vision and inability to handle large-scale pieces shows; he cannot make the jump from large, set-setting piece, to small, intimate piece -- and pace it right. The timing was really off.

Rian Johnson seems to have forgotten that the whole premise of Star Wars is, essentially, World War 2 aerial/ground combat in the galaxy, along with a family burden/feud -- light vs dark, rebellion vs empire. Star Wars is vast enough so that Rogue One fitted in really well into the background story (Galactic Civil War).
If you want to disrupt the basic premise of Star Wars, go right ahead, but this film was a crucial transition stage, one which Johnson bungled heavily; and I do mean heavily.

I seriously think that Johnson could not have done worse than some "thing" living in mom's basement -- if anything, said "thing", at least, might've come up with some fun, wacky stuff. This was worth the cost of admission (almost solely due to production values), but it's not going to be a movie I plan to revisit anytime soon.

This film could've been a truly great transition film, if (from rumors) they wanted to break from the original Star Wars premise, and take things into a new direction, with appropriate send-offs for all the old, familiar characters.
Instead, they went for the hodge-podge recanning of Empire Strikes Back stuff, smushed in with all sorts of crap. It's like a bad stew or bad cake, where you throw in everything produced by mankind (including biological waste, apparently). More's the pity.

TL:DR? Here is the movie in a nutshell:


Rating: 1.25 stars out of 5. One star for production values, quarter-star for everything else.
 
Kind of amazed at the detailed, betrayed rants coming from people who HANDED OVER money to see this cynical garbage.

Please. There's only one thing Hollywood cares about. Hit them where it actually hurts, the hip pocket.
 
Kind of amazed at the detailed, betrayed rants coming from people who HANDED OVER money to see this cynical garbage.

Please. There's only one thing Hollywood cares about. Hit them where it actually hurts, the hip pocket.

Didn't know the movie was that bad BEFORE watching it -- the reviews tended to be quite complimentary of the movie before it was in theaters.
Rogue One, on the other hand, was quite the good Star Wars movie (despite critics being mixed about it).
 
Disney totally screwed this universe up. This movie called "New Hope" was mind blowing for me at 9 years old seeing it on the big screen "I mean a real big screen, not the BS screens of today" in 1977, it was like nothing anyone had ever witnessed in a theater.

This is a joke on so many levels.

Yet, my 8 year old nephew loved it and we've seen it 3x already.

I think the OT is like the original EQ. People remember it so fondly because they grew up with it or it was their first.

TLJ is a SW movie. None of which hold up well to scrutiny, all of which have plot holes, and all of which make decisions people freak out about.

Luke did exactly what Obi-Wan and Yoda did when they failed. He exiled himself. Let's remember that because of Anakin Yoda didn't want to train Luke at first. After like 3 lessons and a cave Luke is basically a badass jedi. Sound familiar?

I liked TLJ because I like Star Wars. I think some people hold these new movies up to what their 9 year old selves thought of the old movies and there is no living up to that.
 
The saddest thing is that he never did get those power converters.

Insurance company denied his claims, as well as family, house, and landspeeder claims.

Reason? "He was a rebel and a terrorist, he tried to kill his nephew, and now he's living off the grid and not paying taxes".

Line 66 on the insurance papers he signed explicitly said that "acts of Jedi are NOT covered by this policy".
 


This guy's voice is annoying, but he's not wrong. He hits the same points I did more or less. He did have an idea that I agree with, could have worked and made the movie so much better.... If they ended the movie with Kylo and Rey teaming up (right after they fought Snoke together), so you don't know how that would play out. Maybe she goes dark, maybe he turns light, you wouldn't know and it would be a great cliffhanger for the next movie. I mean... it's THERE and they THROW IT AWAY. Imagine what kind of demon force babies those two would crank out.

Another point I really agreed with was the Luke astral force projection BS. None of that part of the movie needed to happen, but it would have been so much cooler if Luke had ACTUALLY been there and just shrugged off all the cannon fire mulching him up.

So I'll just hold my breath that someone can digitally re-edit the stupidness out of this film and make it a good one... sorta Harmy Despecialized style.... but that's too much to ask.

This movie is the Star Wars film equivalent of the Mass Effect 3 ending. Which Bioware WENT BACK and fixed after the fact, after the entire planet screamed in horror. If only there was a mulligan available for this stupid movie.
 
They pretty much lost me at the very beginning with the stupid B-52 bomber ships. Those were just the dumbest thing I've seen in a starwars movie in a long time. Bombs falling from gravity....in space? What the everloving fuck.
 
They pretty much lost me at the very beginning with the stupid B-52 bomber ships. Those were just the dumbest thing I've seen in a starwars movie in a long time. Bombs falling from gravity....in space? What the everloving fuck.

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Gravity works just fine in space.

Stuff in orbit is weightless because it's falling around the Earth. If you could remain stationary at orbital altitude gravity is almost as strong as it is on the surface.

All of the people who hate this movie seem to be mentally defective...
 
once you suck mickeys dick there's is no washing that shit off.

i'm just happy it will always be remembered as a trilogy at least that's how i know it.
 
much of the WTF of Starwars was the Massive advance in special effects at the time, in 1977 the best "sci-fi" effects out there were showcased in 2001 a space odessy. then Starwars came out and it was really a WTF / OMFG time. it was literally decades ahead of everything along with a epic soundtrack made the whole package a instant hit. I remember my dad worked at the theater at the time and as a 7 year old i must have sat through it at least 25-30 times, it really ingrained itself into my life. I enjoyed the second 3 movies, but they are kind of a joke compaired to the "origanal " 3. the current crop of flicks part 7 and 8 are ok, but nothing special. the only "newer" branch that fits the origanal storyline and captures the same excitement is rouge one. witch could have been named chapter 3.5 .

The art in cinema was/ is only half the story. Certainly Star Wars blew away the high watermark in the industry at the time by Electric light and magic's artistry and genius but Lucas managed to tap deep seated hard wired human elements that we all share and thusly resonate with.

Why is Han Solo the character everyone wants to be ? but when disney made him a loser buffoon then killed him off in such a shitty fashion fans did not go bat shit, but when luke gets ass raped and then burned alive the ire burns so brightly?
Perhaps if one has not seen thx-1138, and American graffiti the thing Lucas crafted may not at first be logically obvious but in Star Wars Solo represents the freedom to go anywhere in the universe un-beholden to anyone and the sense of adventure ( the link to opening human curiosity ) that inspires. Luke on the other hand represents the other side of that coin . He is free to do anything , but he chooses the hero's path despite the overwhelming odds against him ( the link to both human determination and fraternity ) .
And then there is The Force. ' it permeates all things and binds the galaxy together...you mean it controls yours actions?...partially but it also obeys your commands ' . With this Lucas managed to to take the intangible concept of ; " all the darkness in the universe cannot extinguish a single candle " and turn it into something we can all feel as a tangible object ( of immense power , which is also something we humans like to feel ) .

In short the human connection elements speak directly to peoples innermost selves, stimulating the emotional while not insulting ( and in most cases stimulating ) the intellectual parts at the base of most of us.
 
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Gravity works just fine in space.

Stuff in orbit is weightless because it's falling around the Earth. If you could remain stationary at orbital altitude gravity is almost as strong as it is on the surface.

All of the people who hate this movie seem to be mentally defective...

You do realize the ACCELERATION from ( the force of ) Gravity is inversely squared to the distance relation to proportional two masses , right?
You know :The formula for the acceleration due to gravity is based on Newton's Second Law of Motion and Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. These two laws lead to the most useful form of the formula for calculating acceleration due to gravity: g = G*M/R^2, where g is the acceleration due to gravity, G is the universal gravitational constant, M is mass, and R is distance.

In case that seems baffling the distance (r) is squared and it is used to divide the mass ( which is not squared ) then multiplied by the constant ( G ) to determine an objects acceleration due to mass attraction in free space... so...

...If you could remain stationary at orbital altitude gravity is almost as strong as it is on the surface...

...no, and either these ships are at orbital velocity ( which means the bombs are too ) or they are 'stationary' and thusly falling meaning the relative frame of the bombs should be no different that the ships ( i.e. they are all falling together )
 
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...no, and either these ships are at orbital velocity ( which means the bombs are too ) or they are 'stationary' and thusly falling meaning the relative frame of the bombs should be no different that the ships ( i.e. they are all falling together )

Until the bombs get a small push out of the bomb bay, at which point they are no longer moving at the same speed relative to the dreadnought. I've been docking ships in Kerbal Space Program for years.

According to the star wars visual encyclopedia the bombs are somehow guided towards a target point anyway, so it's a completely moot point.

Face it. You were in such a rush to find something, anything to hate that you screwed up and revealed how little you actually know. You're literally bitching about sci-fi in a sci-fi movie. It's pathetic.
 
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Gravity works just fine in space.

Stuff in orbit is weightless because it's falling around the Earth. If you could remain stationary at orbital altitude gravity is almost as strong as it is on the surface.

All of the people who hate this movie seem to be mentally defective...


Why would people trade in guided torpedoes for gravity bombs?
 
Why would people trade in guided torpedoes for gravity bombs?

They apparently weren't gravity bombs, and even if they were I'm sure you could come up with a decent in-universe reason related to tech or simply the resistance's lack of resources. Sort of like needing to attack the death star with an unguided proton torpedo.

In any case, gravity works correctly in the film. The ships fall towards the planet after being disabled since they aren't orbiting the planet.
 
LOL Gravity does not work correctly in that movie. How about when the ships run out of "gas" and instantly yaw etc and immediately slow down? Thats not how space physics/gravity etc work.
 
Fascinating, somebody is questioning if gravity works correctly in a movie and another is defending it.. talk about divisive.
 
LOL Gravity does not work correctly in that movie. How about when the ships run out of "gas" and instantly yaw etc and immediately slow down? Thats not how space physics/gravity etc work.

I have no idea how a gigantic spaceship with anti-gravity devices might roll around when power cuts out. Do you?

When the fuel runs out they don't slow down, they stop accelerating. They're left behind by the remaining Resistance ships and overtaken by the enemy fleet.

Like I said, it seems like people who hate this movie are mentally defective.
 
LOL Gravity does not work correctly in that movie. How about when the ships run out of "gas" and instantly yaw etc and immediately slow down? Thats not how space physics/gravity etc work.
I believe that.. that is starwars, they seem to drop the sci, and just keep the fiction.. i think that is why i am not a fan.. less and less with this Disney flavorless mess ( seen the first 2 when they are a buck or whatever in Redbox ir whatever was cheap)
 
I have no idea how a gigantic spaceship with anti-gravity devices might roll around when power cuts out. Do you?

When the fuel runs out they don't slow down, they stop accelerating. They're left behind by the remaining Resistance ships and overtaken by the enemy fleet.

Like I said, it seems like people who hate this movie are mentally defective.
Yeah man in the first one some machine was eating a star, that the grew back to star.. hmm yeah..
 
Fascinating, somebody is questioning if gravity works correctly in a movie and another is defending it.. talk about divisive.

Yeah man in the first one some machine was eating a star, that the grew back to star.. hmm yeah..

There are also lasers that blow up planets and magical powers. Do these elements hurt the films or are they integrated in an enjoyable way that suspends your disbelief?

Honestly, what frustrates me is that I would actually like to hear some intelligent criticism of the plot that isn't just somebody shitposting about how much fantasy they think is appropriate for a Star Wars film.
 
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