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EVGA 1080ti SC2 and iCX
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SENTRY: Console-sized gaming PC case project
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NuclearLemons
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reference ones as well. the original gigabyte style should also fit
Gigabyte windforce 3X cards. 2X (2 fans) from the new generation have bigger fans and thus they won't fit. Still, check the card specs for dimensions.
Dynatron's A18 fan has 6000 rpm at full load, so its noise can be acceptable probably only in server applications (compared for example to the NH L9i it's 53.8 dB vs 23,6 dB ).
Yeah like 60 dB I was wondering if anyone modified it with other fans, although it would be neat to have that style of fan and lead the air out the back like a GPU blower style fan.
Sentry is very interesting when it's not being used as a powerhouse and a space heater. Even in a atmospheric case you'd likely need more case fans to at least get the hot air out. With this case, though, I can sen the CPU fan to 20% until 40C and the GPU fans don't move at all until 60C. In my temp Air 240 case, though, I needed case fans and that sucked. The loudest thing now are the hard drives, but I'm gonna live with those for a while.
Sentry is super quiet, and I'll never understand overclocking and breaking this silence.
Sentry is super quiet, and I'll never understand overclocking and breaking this silence.
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it's much to do with the way the sentry doesn't need any extra fans to draw in the air due to its thickness.
Yeah, Sentry is much more like a laptop than a cavernous tower pc. The cpu and gpu cooler fans directly draw in cool air. Just like a laptop. Much simpler than a full tower, no need to point case fans in any particular direction and hope fresh air reaches hot components.
After using the sentry for a while I must say that in the upcoming designs they need to make the CPU intake better because the holes are not good enough for intake the metal blocks a lot of air intake. It really would have been better if they made more holes in this area and place a fan grill under the cover to avoid dust accumulation but the metal does block a lot of air intake and that's not good for this type of case. The GPU/PSU compartments in the other hand being bigger than the fans makes the air intake perfect. However, if you want to have a decent heat-sink on the CPU compartment the fan must be on top of the heatsink which makes the distance between the intake holes and the fan much smaller making it more difficult to have air intake.
What RAM are you using and how is the cooler? I solved all my heat Issues with the external fan and my 1080ti SC 2 runs at nice temps but without the fan there was not way the Cooler could handle the 7700k.
So here's the thing guys - as with GPU dimensions, there's no standard way cooler manufacturers test their hardware. This cooler might be designed for 1U rack server with a rack that has fully induced airflow and external cooling. It might be similar with T318
I've seen multi-cooler benchmark series where reviewers tested low profile coolers on open bench which is useless when you want to pack them into something small.
(Not so) fun fact here is that it might be what killed the original steam machine concept, and why there were mostly negative reviews on the performance. Precisely the CNPS2X might be the thing that killed it - it is promoted to handle 120W TDP CPU and is very quiet. It is actually one of the quietest coolers we've tested, but at the same time it's performance is nothing near handling the 120W inside Sentry nor when the case is open as in open bench test. I'm pretty sure that it's target TDP should be something like 25~35W.
So don't blindly go there believing the specs and question the test methodology on reviews as well if you see a really small cooler that boasts too good to be real performance.
I think the cnps2x suffers from significant recycling of hot air because the fan is open on all sides whereas other coolers like the nh-l9i have a more typical fan in a plastic housing/frame on top of the fin stack. The steam machine tear downs I saw had molded plastic ducts inside around the cpu cooler fan to prevent recycling of air. I have never owned or used a cnps2x so my hypothesis may be incorrect but it's worth taking into consideration. All coolers will perform better when they are isolated, (with ducts, seals, etc) only having access to fresh air. The specs are probably overstated, but more could be done to achieve something closer to the stated specs. It just depends on how much you're willing to tinker. You are correct that some are just flat out lying, like the IS-VC45. I've read such terrible things about that cooler, there's no way it's capable of handling the 135W claimed, fresh air supply or not, it's crap. I really wish there was a broadly available, super high performance low profile cooler. We'll see what comes of Dan's cooler project, I guess.
I'm really surprised Valve didn't spend the resources to pay a manufacturer for a better cooling solution. Oh well, the void left by the failed steam machines gave other projects, like Sentry, room to flourish.
The CNPS2X didn't perform properly when the case was open either, so I suppose it might be targeted at a case with front and back fans.
As for the steam machine - well, valve achieved their goal to show they may be able to pull it off without windows while they might've dropped the prototype project all along to cut down spending.
As for the steam machine - well, valve achieved their goal to show they may be able to pull it off without windows while they might've dropped the prototype project all along to cut down spending.
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I have used Innodisk VLP Ram, 7700K was delidded.
Slowpoke post below 
Got my Sentry this summer, and since that I'm enjoing every time seeibg it on my desk.
SaperPL , ZombiPL, thank you guys for this awesome case! Compact, solid and beautiful.
P.S.: Thought this info may be useful for someone: Gigabyte GV-N1060AORUS-6GD-rev-20 fits perfectly, even with top 8-pin connector.
Got my Sentry this summer, and since that I'm enjoing every time seeibg it on my desk.
SaperPL , ZombiPL, thank you guys for this awesome case! Compact, solid and beautiful.
P.S.: Thought this info may be useful for someone: Gigabyte GV-N1060AORUS-6GD-rev-20 fits perfectly, even with top 8-pin connector.
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Cryorig c7 with 3d printed 120mm fan mount and noctua 120mm fan. Barely clears ram, still waiting on Cryorigs AM4 mounting kit but looking forward to seeing what the temps will be with my Ryzen 1700
Crafty work with the 3d printing. I was about to jump the gun on the C7 but still holding off due to the imminent launch of the C7 Copper; seems it could be a couple of weeks from launch now..
Yea I have been waiting for the copper edition and i will definitely pick it up when it releases. Here is the link to the .thing files that i found, the person that made them also made 92mm version as well. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2313969
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do you think it will be better than an lp53? if it turns out to be the case I'm jumping onto it immediately
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Can't say until we see it in action but seeing how the standard C7 was ok, I expect the Copper version to be better. Only benchmarks will tell if it's better than the LP53. However, the C7 should work with AM4 sockets as well - i see the LP53 only works with Intel sockets (could be reading this wrong) so C7 Copper might be the best one yet for a Ryzen Sentry..time will tell
Would also like to know! Need to downsize my current HTPC (MATX Silverstone case), and no other case suits my needs quite as well
We are preparing something in the next few weeks, but we also have to do something with the transport. We are not happy if our supporters gets their packages after 6,7 or 9 weeks. We are in contact with different shipping companies, and we want to improve that field. From our knowledge, this will rise the costs of transport, but also it looks like people want to pay 15-30 dollars more if they will get their packege within 1-3 weeks than 1-2 months. Please be patient. When we will be ready, we will make an update through our newsletter system.
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id be happier to spend more than 15--30 dollars...
It's not like 15-30 dollars but 15-30 dollars "more". Worldwide shipment is very expensive. Our current economic shipment to USA was something like $27 USD while for example Ghost S1 project has fast shipment for about $70 USD (correct me if I'm wrong). At this moment we are updating our current transport offers, because USD currenty is really low. It means, it we will get a fast shipment (3-10 days worldwide) below $50, it will be great.
Not at this stage. Many people are still waiting for the possibility to get the current design and as you remember after every change we have to make a prototype, then a prototype repeatability check (order 10-25 prototypes), paint them, sent to external reviewers, etc. and that takes time. It means if we even would want to make some changes according to the current feedback and make another campaign, people from this campaign would get their cases after another 5-7 months and we would do it without consulting everything with them. And this is not how we work. We do not want to rush anything. This is a community project, and from emails we are receiving everyday people just want the current design, without any changes. Of course our backers are also writing their thoughts about possible improvements and we are writing them down, but we think it is to early to make changes and release another, different campaign (maybe in 2018... depending on the market demand... we will probably make a separate thread if we will decide to make another revision of Sentry).
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that is still completely acceptable in my book. I couldn't be happier with my sentry. At this point i am the envy of the entire dorm.
So I'm having some over heating issues with my Ryzen 3 1200. I had a Cryorig C7 but it rusted and got ruined while waiting to be installed. (I was living on St Croix during the hurricanes)
I currently have the default AMD cooler in the case(shaved off some material to make it fit) but I think my thermal paste application was pretty meh.
Was considering getting a Noctua L9a/i but I'm not really worried about sound, just cooling.
My question: Should I order another Cryorig C7 or should I wait for the copper C7 later this year?
Will the copper really provide that much better performance?
I currently have the default AMD cooler in the case(shaved off some material to make it fit) but I think my thermal paste application was pretty meh.
Was considering getting a Noctua L9a/i but I'm not really worried about sound, just cooling.
My question: Should I order another Cryorig C7 or should I wait for the copper C7 later this year?
Will the copper really provide that much better performance?
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i think at this point any c7 would perform better than a rusted one.....
Haha, I do not intend on using the rusted one. I threw it away.
I am also looking into the ID-Cooling is-40v3 which seems similar to the C7. They're about the same price and TDP
The noctua is really a decent cooler for anything less than ~80W TDP. And quiet too.
Everything I've heard about ID-cooling suggests their performance claims are often way overstated. I've heard the cryorig is loud, but if you're ok with the noise of the C7 then get that. Or the NH-L9a. Either will be fine. Just get something that is known to work well to avoid more headaches.
If the copper c7 proves to be 10C better in cooling then just sell what ever cooler you have and get the copper one. No sense tolerating a bad cooler to wait for one that may or may not be any better than what you could have now.
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in addition to that, some have found that its better to change the fan on a c7, you can get adapters or stick your own on it, there is some degree of performance/noise gain depending on the fan you use.
Went on a business trip and have had the pleasure of being able to take this bad boy with me! This is a PC gamer's dream come true! Now to find a smaller monitor!
Still planning on taking more elegant build pictures soon, but thought I would share while it's still fresh.
Thanks Zaber team!
Still planning on taking more elegant build pictures soon, but thought I would share while it's still fresh.
Thanks Zaber team!
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He needs that IPad monitor (its a mod) https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/my-modded-ipad-display.2680/
Basically Ipad +$30 adapter and little DIY (pretty easy with a teardown video)
Basically Ipad +$30 adapter and little DIY (pretty easy with a teardown video)
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I travel just the same way!!! Though I found a USB powered 15" HDMI connected 1080p monitor on one of the Chinese websites (like Aliexpress) and it works great! If it works as planned coming up I'll have another treat for this thread!
EDIT: I keep this monitor in a laptop sleeve, fits perfect!
To Be CONTINUED...
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