AMD Ryzen Threadripper Installation Redux

Thanks again for finding all of the little "snags" on these systems and letting us all know how to avoid making the same mistakes! I think you probably saved me 3-4 hours on my new build already, and I havent even begun ordering parts yet! (although I am probably about a week or two out from starting my ordering!)
 
I thought it was pretty simple and straightforward, but I'm glad Kyle posted the video. I really like the TR4 socket as it is pretty bulletproof.
 
I first heard of this technique in an HP Laserjet repair class. Their printers at the time were mostly screws going into plastic, so they were very easy to crossthread. So, they gave us the advice to turn the screws backwards until we felt the click to know where the start of the threads were.
 
Wow very informative. Was thinking of picking up a TR system maybe if I take this new Job ($30k raise).
 
dgingeri said:
I first heard of this technique in an HP Laserjet repair class. Their printers at the time were mostly screws going into plastic, so they were very easy to crossthread. So, they gave us the advice to turn the screws backwards until we felt the click to know where the start of the threads were.
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same trick works when you change the spark plugs in your car. especially when you have an engine with head(s) made from aluminium.
 
If you want them to sound like they're super drunk, watch the video at 50% speed. ;)
Edit: oh, and incidentally, that should be about how it looks when you're doing it yourself, not like how it is real-time. If you wanna go that fast, they've provided a little knob on top which allows you to turn the screw quickly while allowing nowhere near enough torque to kill a screw (your fingers will slip once you get near the bottom). Once your fingers start slipping, you can switch to the paddles and apply light force until it reaches the detent, and then stop. Light force=just enough to turn the screw--it shouldn't feel like you're trying to remove a stubborn cap on a bottle. If it does, back off the screw a little and try again.
 
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thesmokingman said:
Don't trust it. Beware though nsfw but I'm sure we'd be cursing too if we sheared a screw.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/167390927?t=53m24s
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the torque wrench works exactly how it's designed.. the clicking tells you that you have reached the proper torque, it doesn't stop you from continuing to tighten the screw.. some people should not be allowed to touch tools that require basic common sense to use.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
the torque wrench works exactly how it's designed.. the clicking tells you that you have reached the proper torque, it doesn't stop you from continuing to tighten the screw.. some people should not be allowed to touch tools that require basic common sense to use.
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The problem is that Torque Wrenches aren't normal everyday tools. As a result the theoretical benefit of the wrench being able to say that the bolt is tight enough is largely lost. If mechanically feasible, what they need is something similar that disengages slightly past the target torque instead of allowing massive over-torquing to be applied. That or some sort of stop in the socket that prevents you from over tightening to destruction.
 
DanNeely said:
The problem is that Torque Wrenches aren't normal everyday tools. As a result the theoretical benefit of the wrench being able to say that the bolt is tight enough is largely lost. If mechanically feasible, what they need is something similar that disengages slightly past the target torque instead of allowing massive over-torquing to be applied. That or some sort of stop in the socket that prevents you from over tightening to destruction.
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so what you mean is that they needed a tool for an idiot to use? at some point you'd think "hmm maybe i should google how a torque wrench works before i install this 800+ dollar processor like a normal person who doesn't understand how a tool works would do"..
 
If they read the directions, it would have told them to stop turning after the click. They did read the directions however, which means their mental acuity failed at understanding what a “click” is.

You can’t prevent stupid.
 
Get Smarter Stupid.

i love how people equate being able to afford something meaning they are masters of it, and it must be at fault if it doesn't work the way they think it should.
 
Actually I saw a youtube video of some guy saying that there are 2 different sockets one made by foxconn and the other by someone else and I might agree with his hypothesis. The Foxconn made ones are a bit looser and have a more cheaply made feel to them which gives it a bit more movement to cause issues when tightening the screws in order. I know I ran into the same issue tightening down the screws on the foxconn socket. The MSI Carbon board was so EASY to put in the CPU and I couldn't really understand why people had an issue screwing it in. Unfortunately my board was bad so I got a different board so I ended up buying an ASRock X399 Fatal1ty and it has the Foxconn socket and it was much harder in comparison to the MSI Carbon socket to get the screws in.
 
LurkerLito said:
I couldn't really understand why people had an issue screwing it in. Unfortunately... it was much harder in comparison to the MSI Carbon socket to get the screws in.
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Not about you, but in general this is rather annoying when ppl who have not experienced the pain in the ass sockets act like a problem doesn't exist because they were lucky to not have one of the suspect sockets.
 
A customer who never built a PC before who attempted to build one brought me his that didn't POST. It has a Threadripper CPU. For whatever reason, the socket never sits flat or parallel to the board where the two bottom screws 2 and 3 reside. When tightening torx screws 2 and 3, it causes the bottom of the socket to lift. Is this normal? This gives me the impression the screws are going through the threads fine. So far I can only guess he damaged it, a manufacturer defect, or I'm retarded. Already tried Kyle's method and different sequences and other variations. At this point, I'm going to ask the customer to bring in the torque driver. If that doesn't work, another motherboard it is I guess.

Any ideas on the socket part lifting?
 
r-486 said:
A customer who never built a PC before who attempted to build one brought me his that didn't POST. It has a Threadripper CPU. For whatever reason, the socket never sits flat or parallel to the board where the two bottom screws 2 and 3 reside. When tightening torx screws 2 and 3, it causes the bottom of the socket to lift. Is this normal? This gives me the impression the screws are going through the threads fine. So far I can only guess he damaged it, a manufacturer defect, or I'm retarded. Already tried Kyle's method and different sequences and other variations. At this point, I'm going to ask the customer to bring in the torque driver. If that doesn't work, another motherboard it is I guess.

Any ideas on the socket part lifting?
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Sounds like you have one of the pain in the ass sockets. You have two options, push down really freaking hard or swap the board and cross your fingers the next socket is easier.
 
All the screws get tight, so they're going through the threads or at least that's my impression.

At any rate, he has an ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme board with Foxconn socket.
 
r-486 said:
All the screws get tight, so they're going through the threads or at least that's my impression.

At any rate, he has an ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme board with Foxconn socket.
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A Zenith, not surprised. My Zenith was the biggest pain in the ass. I switched to a Giga board and it mounted in a minute, yet ppl were telling me in my own thread yore doing it wrong lol.


https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?95479-Help!-Screw-1-will-not-thread-no-matter-what-I-do

^^Check post 32.

https://community.amd.com/thread/219286
 
I have done videos with both sockets. If you use the method we showed in that last update video there are no issues. The fact is that too much is being made out of this IMO. Mount the CPU BEFORE you put it in the system and do it on a stable platform and there are no issues. Yeah, sometimes you have to push down "hard." The fact is though, that socket is built like a tank, and the tool is keyed so it is not going to slip out of the bolt head, so there are no worries.
 
Alright, I finally got it mounted. Here was my solution that no video or forum mentioned. I'm guessing the customer partially unscrewed the other bottom torx screws--NOT the ones labeled 2 and 3 but the other ones--that's why it kept lifting. Those screws weren't going through the motherboard. After I realized this, I got it first time.
 
r-486 said:
Alright, I finally got it mounted. Here was my solution that no video or forum mentioned. I'm guessing the customer partially unscrewed the other bottom torx screws--NOT the ones labeled 2 and 3 but the other ones--that's why it kept lifting. Those screws weren't going through the motherboard. After I realized this, I got it first time.
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There are only three bolts. Not sure what you are saying here.
 
r-486 said:
Alright, I finally got it mounted. Here was my solution that no video or forum mentioned. I'm guessing the customer partially unscrewed the other bottom torx screws--NOT the ones labeled 2 and 3 but the other ones--that's why it kept lifting. Those screws weren't going through the motherboard. After I realized this, I got it first time.
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Nobu said:
The screws that attach the socket to the motherboard, mayhaps?
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Ah yeah, if the socket was not secured to the motherboard, I can see where that might give you issues. And just checking, all the socket location bolts are the same head size, so the tool works on those too. But geez, they even went so far as to number the bolts you are supposed to access and put the instructions on the socket itself.
 
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