The Xbox One X Makes the PlayStation 4 Pro Feel like a Half-Measure

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Regardless of what critics say, Microsoft has lived up to their promise of powerful hardware: while the right display is required, this author asserts that you’ll see an image that looks at least as good as one from a competent gaming PC, noting that the improvement in visuals from a standard Xbox One on a 1080p display to a (barely) sub-$1,000 4K display with HDR is “immediate and impressive.”

The PS4 has the exclusives, but the Xbox One X has the power. If there’s a game that’s out on Xbox One and PS4, I’m at the point where I’m much more likely to pick up the game on the Xbox One. Changing one’s default platform midway through a console generation is a big shift. The Xbox One X, with its price and power, seems to be targeting hardcore players, bringing them back to (or keeping them within) the Microsoft family.
 
Bought an X1X for Forza because I was tired of being disappointed with the Gran Turismo series. Still happy with my choice.

I wasn't happy about switching from Playstation to XBox. My only disappointment from making the PlayStation/Gran Turismo to XBox/Forza switch is that the XBox has no VR headset right now.
 
OG XBox One and PS 4 here. The XBox One X is a great piece of hardware, and as much I as I prefer game/sub sharing on the XBox, the games just aren't there.
 
"The PS4 has the exclusives, but the Xbox One X has the power." So....Enjoy the "power" with all of those 10 year old games that are getting backwards compatibility then? Because you don't buy a console for "power", you buy it to play games you can't play anywhere else! If you want "power", you should be gaming on a proper PC! If you want unique games and experiences, you get a PS4 (slim or Pro) and play games that the PC will never see!
 
Nolan7689 said:
It also still has a pisspoor OS that runs like a turd down the gutter.

Specs/power wise the One X really hasn’t wowed me at all. I think Jim Sterling's opinion on that matter is spot on. People that already had the PS4Pro have been able to see improved performance and 4K esque visuals.
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I find that ps4 pro os to be piss poor also. It is always laggy for me.
 
vegeta535 said:
Still has no games.
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This. Unless you are a console only gamer I don't see the appeal. If I only gamed on consoles I'd get an Xbox One X to play multiplatform games but a PS4 will be there to play the many unique titles it offers.
 
When I was at Best Buy on Black Saturday, the shelf with Xbox X was packed with unsold units and overflowing onto the floor, while a bigger rack nearby was empty except for 3 remaining PS4 Pro's at $349 and a few PS4 regular at $199. Looked like a mob had swept through. Lots of PSVR boxes. Anecdotal, but those X's didnt look like they were flying off the shelves.

Not sure what MS was thinking pricing a new console at the historically kiss-of-death pricepoint of $500 (did they really not learn from the original Xbox One launch fiasco?) and then not even bothering to launch it with a single new platform exclusive.

Calling it now: Phil Spencer "leave of absence/sabbatical" announcement after the next quarterly report.
 
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But Xbox guy said they flying off the shelves. I noticed the same thing at stores around here.
 
I haven't been much of a console gamer for a while (Until recently only had a Xbox 360 and Wii) but figured I'd pick up a new console for this holiday season. Seemed like there was a ton of overlap between games on Xbox One and PC and less but still noticeable overlap on the PS4 and PC. I ended up grabbing a Nintendo Switch which seems to have some really solid exclusives. I also just have a 1080P TV so the one X and ps4 pro didn't really appeal to me. Also helps that I have a 6, 8, and 10 year old that will get more from the Nintendo titles and gets them off my PC. I hope I made the right choice, only thing I wish is that Nintendo would get some sports titles like NHL.

I have fond memories of playing NHL '95 on my SNES.
 
jnemesh said:
"The PS4 has the exclusives, but the Xbox One X has the power." So....Enjoy the "power" with all of those 10 year old games that are getting backwards compatibility then? Because you don't buy a console for "power", you buy it to play games you can't play anywhere else! If you want "power", you should be gaming on a proper PC! If you want unique games and experiences, you get a PS4 (slim or Pro) and play games that the PC will never see!
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It's a nice piece of hardware. Not something I'd drop my Xbox One OG for, though. Same games, just look better. If I wanted that, I'd just buy them for the PC (and I do). Plus, I only have a 1080P display. The 4K projector I want is 5,000 bucks. No reason for me to have one, really. Same games, slightly better visuals on my display...
 
DPI said:
When I was at Best Buy on Black Saturday, the shelf with Xbox X was packed with unsold units and overflowing onto the floor, while a bigger rack nearby was empty except for 3 remaining PS4 Pro's at $349 and a few PS4 regular at $199. Looked like a mob had swept through. Lots of PSVR boxes. Anecdotal, but those X's didnt look like they were flying off the shelves.

Not sure what MS was thinking pricing a new console at the historically kiss-of-death pricepoint of $500 (did they really not learn from the original Xbox One launch fiasco?) and then not even bothering to launch it with a single new platform exclusive.

Calling it now: Phil Spencer "leave of absence/sabbatical" announcement after the next quarterly report.
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BUT IT HAS SUPER LUCKY'S TALE!!!
 
vegeta535 said:
I find that ps4 pro os to be piss poor also. It is always laggy for me.
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It does lag, far less though I think. YMMV.
MavericK said:
BUT IT HAS SUPER LUCKY'S TALE!!!
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In all honesty though, while not a strong game choice perhaps, the color palette is a absolutely perfect choice. Bright vibrant colors really help sell the fancy new HDR feature. Similarly Rachet and Clank 2016; beautiful HDR game.
 
"XBOX ONE X has a ton of games!" Uh.. No.. not really. Ton of games made for the basic XBOX one that RUNS on the One X. There is Nothing that was made, primarily for the XBOX One X to push it forward. What games.. are exclusive to the XBOX one X? Next to None.

Pass.

"WE HAVE POWER!" but nothing to utilize it, nothing to WOW anyone and nothing to make its future potential shine...

Terrible launch. PS3 had a better launch.... think about that.
 
i've been interested how many parents have been looking at getting an xbox one x this year that i've spoken to (my sons 10) at various kids things. It's between that or a pspro for vr. Both have a bit of a buy in that can be countered by the fact that the parents would also be using the kids xmas present.

If Xbox can get vr going they'll really have good competition for sony. Until then, sony is still the king of vr.
 
Squall_Rinoa89 said:
"XBOX ONE X has a ton of games!" Uh.. No.. not really. Ton of games made for the basic XBOX one that RUNS on the One X. There is Nothing that was made, primarily for the XBOX One X to push it forward. What games.. are exclusive to the XBOX one X? Next to None.

Pass.

"WE HAVE POWER!" but nothing to utilize it, nothing to WOW anyone and nothing to make its future potential shine...

Terrible launch. PS3 had a better launch.... think about that.
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Xbox One launch: "TV TV TV!"
$499
And they forgot about games

Xbox X launch: "4K 4K 4K!"
$499
And they forgot about games

I think I see a pattern.
 
Lol, love it how this site is still heavily biased towards XBone bullshit, even peddling their DOA XBonx with lying headlines.

Let's not discuss how horribly superfluous the system is if you're a PC gamer, and how supporting it actually hurts the PC gaming market since 95% of its library is also on PC and gets nerfed for having to be ported to a worthless shell of a console which lacks any vision other than to have great specs and ZERO exclusives worth playing.

But hey, Inb4 the next obviously biased thread either FOR XBone or AGAINST PS4/Switch
 
A lot of people still hold a serious grudge against Microsoft as far as consoles go. They are always late to the party and then ... buy their way in. I know I do. Maybe the newer kids won't know this but any serious hardcore game should.

This console release also feels wrong. Feels as if it was released for all the wrong reasons. My friend has one and he hasn't really talked about it much. Not sure there is much community excitement at least at the moment.

One of the biggest reasons the Microsoft Xbox does so poorly in Japan is because of their lack of video game culture / street cred. Japanese game companies operate a lot differently than American companies. American companies think a lot less outside the box. Occasionally you might have something different and ground breaking but not normally. It's all the same regurgitated same ol' same ol' crap that gets released. Sure, some games are good but nothing the Japanese can get excited about.

Me personally, I cannot wait for the new Playstation 5. No doubt because of the Xbox One X ... Sony will have to come in with something more powerful. Now this is something to get excited about.

I am concerned about the AMD GPU they will probably be using. Would love it if they opted for a very powerful nVidia solution this time around.

AMD just seems budget to me in the graphics dept.
 
You guys can be snarky about not having thousands of games available, but the reality of pc gaming is not that inviting as of now.

Intel 8700ks priced $400 and beyond
Z-370 boards priced $120 at least
16GB of ram priced $200 on average
GTX 1070/ Vega priced $400 or more

That is over $1000 if you just want to upgrade and meet the requirements of the PC master race (Don't even bother going Ryzen!)

An XB1X costs $500. And it includes a 4k bluray player.
Ps3 costed $600 10 years ago with the then new Blu ray player.
 
XBox makes exclusive games, PCers say they are HOLDING BACK PC GAMING! Now they are doing Play Anywhere titles and other really good games that you can also play on the PC and PCers say, THEY ARE NO EXCLUSIVE GAMES! LOL! Yeah, like I would listen to any PC Master race person. :D:eek::rolleyes:
 
ManofGod said:
Except for the fact that I have over 150 games installed right now that I can play at anytime. Yep, no games. :rolleyes:
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Same. 156 games for 3TB on my 6TB external after the recent sale.
Squall_Rinoa89 said:
"XBOX ONE X has a ton of games!" Uh.. No.. not really. Ton of games made for the basic XBOX one that RUNS on the One X. There is Nothing that was made, primarily for the XBOX One X to push it forward. What games.. are exclusive to the XBOX one X? Next to None.

Pass.

"WE HAVE POWER!" but nothing to utilize it, nothing to WOW anyone and nothing to make its future potential shine...

Terrible launch. PS3 had a better launch.... think about that.
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The XB1X has a lot more games that are "enhanced" 2 weeks after launch than the PS4 Pro does after an entire year.
 
MavericK said:
Just bought a PS4 Pro because it has the games I want to play. It'd be cool if it was faster but...specs alone aren't going to get me to buy a console.
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And this is the big problem with the Xbox One X. Power means dick if it doesn't have the games. The amount of exclusives coming out to PS4 are just insane and PS4 may be on track to become the best selling Sony console of all time precisely because their focus was on gaming FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. I haven't touched my Xbox One S in a long time and the PS4 has ALL the right games coming out that I want...

  • Death Stranding
  • Days Gone
  • Detroit: Become Human
  • God of War
  • Ace Combat 7
  • Shadow of the Colossus Remake

I am sure there are more, but there is absolutely nothing on the horizon on Xbox I want that I couldn't get on PC.
 
I'm quite happy having purchased the X. It's a bit on the expensive side, I won't deny that, but I felt for what I was getting out of it, that it was worth it. When a game developer has the game patched to take advantage of the power, their game runs phenomenal (at 1920x1080). With Gears of War 4, unless your display has great response time, input lag is atrocious when you set it to the Quality (4k) graphics setting. However, on performance, even upscaled to 4K it looks great, runs fast, and input lag is not noticeable. The Surge runs at 60 fps and I don't notice slowdown. Assassin's Creed Origins more seems a patch is needed, because it looks great and runs fine comparatively at 4K... and then runs the same at 1920x1080.

The only thing atrocious on the OS is the store. The microsoft store is the most unresponsive pile of dung, next to the PlayStation Store on PS3. The rest of the OS is responsive and much faster than it used to be. I have not touched by PS4 in almost a year now (may change with God of War and Days Gone), but I have had it since launch and more than gotten my use out of it.
 
Armenius said:
Same. 156 games for 3TB on my 6TB external after the recent sale.
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I think the problem is, how many of those require an Xbox to play? If you can get it on PC, a lot of us will. Why? Cause the PC version tends to be cheaper and you don't have to pay for a service to play online. I have an Xbox One S, PS4 Pro, and PC. I don't have very many games on Xbox One, since if it's available on PC, I'll get that. If it's not available on PC, but available on PS4, I'll get that. I only buy Xbox One games if it's an exclusive, which there aren't many.


Nightfire said:
You guys can be snarky about not having thousands of games available, but the reality of pc gaming is not that inviting as of now.

Intel 8700ks priced $400 and beyond
Z-370 boards priced $120 at least
16GB of ram priced $200 on average
GTX 1070/ Vega priced $400 or more

That is over $1000 if you just want to upgrade and meet the requirements of the PC master race (Don't even bother going Ryzen!)

An XB1X costs $500. And it includes a 4k bluray player.
Ps3 costed $600 10 years ago with the then new Blu ray player.
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You can get away with lower specs, while being able to do more than just games and tv. I'm on a 7700k, GTX 970, 32 gb memory, Z270 board and I'm playing all games at 1440p. Granted, some graphics options are turned down. There's also the option of not getting rid of all the hardware and games, when I decide to upgrade parts.

There's benefits to consoles and there's benefits to PCs. There's also cons for both too. It's all up to the individual to decide what is better for them. I'm just a gamer. So I just pick them all up, if I think it's worth it.
 
Armenius said:
Same. 156 games for 3TB on my 6TB external after the recent sale.

The XB1X has a lot more games that are "enhanced" 2 weeks after launch than the PS4 Pro does after an entire year.
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There are a lot of patched games (dozens) that are supported by the PS4 Pro...so they didn't have to buy rebuy the "enhanced" versions of the games.
 
JustinCorrigible said:
The only thing atrocious on the OS is the store. The microsoft store is the most unresponsive pile of dung, next to the PlayStation Store on PS3. The rest of the OS is responsive and much faster than it used to be. I have not touched by PS4 in almost a year now (may change with God of War and Days Gone), but I have had it since launch and more than gotten my use out of it.
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No change. The store on both the Xbox and PS4 are still slow piles of crap. Why I just use my PC to go to the stores.
 
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