Petition for the Resignation of FCC Chairman Ajit Varadaraj Pai

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The White House is hosting a petition calling for Ajit Pai to step down as FCC Chairman. It requires 100,000 signatures by December 23, 2017 to get a response, and so far, over 97,000 have signed.

We the people have identified FCC Chairman Ajit Varadaraj Pai as a threat to our freedoms due to his call to repeal Net Neutrality. We passionately call upon the white house for the immediate removal of FCC Chairman Ajit Varadaraj Pai from office for his actions.
 
I don't like him.

But I have no idea why anyone would bother making a petition. Is there a theory he'll get up, see it, and say "gosh, I'm not following the will of the people!" and resign?

Another item in the "I do this so I feel good" department, I suppose.
 
Well its true why you be smh?

Singularity does have a point. "A threat to our freedoms" is alarmist in nature and non specific. It is hard to prove at face value.

Unfortunately it represents a very poorly worded petition which can no be taken seriously. Even if it were taken seriously by the White House, how do you know the next chairman wouldn't be as big a troll?

A much better petition would have been,

Petition said:
FCC Chairman Ajit Pai deserves to be removed of his post for demonstrating a clear conflict of interest in violation of the majority of U.S. businesses and citizens objections. The U.S. citizenship wishes "To provide an internet that is equally open for all who use it" through the enforcement of "net neutrality". The U.S. citizenship also believes that protection of access to information, and competition can only be achieved through the FCC's "net neutrality" regulation as the US Congress has failed to act on the issue after 25+ years of common broadband access."
 
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Becasue it is BS...NN is all about cost shifting from the youtube, facebook and others their network transport costs to the end users not themselves.
https://www.etc-md.com/archives/4896
most of that "opinion" piece, call bullshit on.

I'm paying for a service. Be it 5mbps, 25, 50 or 1+GBPs. I'm paying for that, and should be able to get a "reasonable" value therein. If it's busy and it slows down to 50% of the speed for a bit... that's one thing, but the ISP shouldn't offer a package it doesn't have the infrastructure to support.

If I'm already paying for bandwidth, why the fuck should I have to pay more for Netflix to work, if I have to pay for netflix anyways?

Edit: Also looked up another "article" of theirs.... If you think any ISP out there is paying 40% of the sub fees to bandwidth costs... I've got a bridge to sell you.
 
Becasue it is BS...NN is all about cost shifting from the youtube, facebook and others their network transport costs to the end users not themselves.
https://www.etc-md.com/archives/4896
NN has nothing to do with network transport costs (bandwidth), and everything to do with blocking the ISP's competitor's services. Not using your ISP's VOIP service, you will find your VOIP provider's site is blocked, but can be unblocked for 29.99/month. Not paying for your ISP's video service, your find nexflix is blocked, but can be unblocked for 29.99/month.
The ISP's are salivating over this. They will be able to monetize the internet and charge for "internet channels".
 
Becasue it is BS...NN is all about cost shifting from the youtube, facebook and others their network transport costs to the end users not themselves.
https://www.etc-md.com/archives/4896

If 80% of your end traffic is youtube, then 80% of what you pay to the cable company should be to support that traffic. Bytes are bytes, it does't matter where they come from. Your statement is BS.

Theoretically if I pay for a 20mbps bandwidth, then I should be able to download 6,588,000 megs per month regardless of it's source. However if the ISP finds they can not sustain that limit, they do have the right to impose caps. (As they are currently doing in selected markets) Thus the data rate will be self regulated by customers.

The repeal of net neutrality is just about ISP's double dipping and protecting their markets to ensure limited choice.
 
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
This will be about as effective in bringing change as the petition done a few years ago to let Texas secede.

Most people don't care about NN, if they even have a vague idea what it is, and what was passed as "Net Neutrality" that is being repealed wasn't true Net Neutrality. Just some people trying to whip up a frenzy over something that doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
This will be about as effective in bringing change as the petition done a few years ago to let Texas secede.

Most people don't care about NN, if they even have a vague idea what it is, and what was passed as "Net Neutrality" that is being repealed wasn't true Net Neutrality. Just some people trying to whip up a frenzy over something that doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

i was about to post the same thing.
 
I have to admit, that's a pretty respectable tally for three days. That's over 30,000 signatures a day.

Even though I disagree with the wording, if it's spammed and signed by enough people, the government will take notice. So do your part and put it on facebook if you believe recall is a good thing.
 
Let's see, he's a lawyer, strike 1. He used to work for Verizon. Strike 2. He was recommended by Mitch McConnell - strike 3. Yes, he needs to go. This guy is either clueless, or still being paid by Verizon. I'll go with the latter, because he seems to have a strong position on the ridiculous fees charged to prison inmates because of exclusive contracts with carriers yet he thinks the idea of net neutrality is a bad idea? Bet the NCTA loves this guy....
 
Resignation wouldn't be my first choice of a word, but it is the civil one. Ah, well, sadly this won't change anything.
 
You guys are aware that "Net Neutrality" made ISPs common carriers, right? And that, for example, that makes them subject to CALEA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act says "In its own words, the purpose of CALEA is: To amend title 18, United States Code, to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for Law Enforcement purposes, and for other purposes."

" Some government agencies argue that it covers mass surveillance of communications rather than just tapping specific lines and that not all CALEA-based access requires a warrant."
 
Ajit Pai reminds me of this guy.

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1918 signatures left...

edit: 1819 left
 
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You guys are aware that "Net Neutrality" made ISPs common carriers, right? And that, for example, that makes them subject to CALEA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act says "In its own words, the purpose of CALEA is: To amend title 18, United States Code, to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for Law Enforcement purposes, and for other purposes."

" Some government agencies argue that it covers mass surveillance of communications rather than just tapping specific lines and that not all CALEA-based access requires a warrant."
Do you honestly believe that would end if net neutrality were defeated?
 
Its too early. He can't leave the FCC for a cushy Verizon lobbying job until after hes done their bidding.
 
REPEAL so called Net Neutrality! The petition is absurd. lol "We the uninformed..." lol
 
I'm all for silicon valley dominating the rust belt even more in tech jobs with Pai's help, but dropping net neutrality hurts the country as a whole.

Watch for shills defending this while the rest of the developed world laughs at us stumbling in their rear view mirror.
 
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Threads like this are proof that even people who build computers for a living don't necessarily have a working brain.

Or maybe it's just pure laziness.

" what's this? This thing is called net neutrality? And it demands all traffic be equal? We must defend net neutrality!"

" um, if you read all the things referring to net neutrality, as in the actual laws governing it, it doesn't actually make all traffic equal but instead forces startup and potential rival companies to the major ISP conglomerates to shoulder in unfair amount of cost thereby preventing any competition in keeping the ISP monopolies intact, killing competition. It doesn't actually have anything to do with net neutrality at all."

" what? Is that can't be right! It's called net neutrality after all! And those nice reporters who are paid by Comcast and other isps to tell me what to think said so! Out with you! Burn the witch!"


Seriously. The petition will do nothing and in a few years when net neutrality in its current form is dead, and competition has been opened up as well as the major ISP conglomerates finally are forced to lower prices due to competition from startups, I doubt any of you Geniuses will be bright enough to put two and two together.

Maybe I can win you all over by digging up some old cyrix processors and rebranding then as "SuperCPU!" Just have to pay off some people to sing their praises and put out some fake bullshit, and apparently you all be buying them by The Bushel load.

Good Lord why are people so damn gullible and not inclined to do actually do their research, instead opting for others to tell them what to think...
 
whats gonna happen even if he does leave is he is going to be hired at a telecom instantly for 2-3x the pay he is currently getting from the government(not including lobby money is getting right now).
 
I have to admit, that's a pretty respectable tally for three days. That's over 30,000 signatures a day.

The message is anti Republican, aimed directly at something young-people do (filling out petitions that they believe matter) and can be accomplished staring at their fucking phones 18 out of every 24 hours...... getting 30k a day is actually pathetic considering the target audience. Hell the entire population of San Francisco should have been all over this in like the first hour....... :D
 
Threads like this are proof that even people who build computers for a living don't necessarily have a working brain.

Or maybe it's just pure laziness.

<Snip>

16. No Throttling. The 2010 open Internet rule against blocking contained an ancillary prohibition against the degradation of lawful content, applications, services, and devices, on the ground that such degradation would be tantamount to blocking. This Order creates a separate rule to guard against degradation targeted at specific uses of a customer's broadband connection:

A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not impair or degrade lawful Internet traffic on the basis of Internet content, application, or service, or use of a non-harmful device, subject to reasonable network management.

Source - https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...41/protecting-and-promoting-the-open-internet
 
Threads like this are proof that even people who build computers for a living don't necessarily have a working brain.

Or maybe it's just pure laziness.

" what's this? This thing is called net neutrality? And it demands all traffic be equal? We must defend net neutrality!"

" um, if you read all the things referring to net neutrality, as in the actual laws governing it, it doesn't actually make all traffic equal but instead forces startup and potential rival companies to the major ISP conglomerates to shoulder in unfair amount of cost thereby preventing any competition in keeping the ISP monopolies intact, killing competition. It doesn't actually have anything to do with net neutrality at all."

" what? Is that can't be right! It's called net neutrality after all! And those nice reporters who are paid by Comcast and other isps to tell me what to think said so! Out with you! Burn the witch!"


Seriously. The petition will do nothing and in a few years when net neutrality in its current form is dead, and competition has been opened up as well as the major ISP conglomerates finally are forced to lower prices due to competition from startups, I doubt any of you Geniuses will be bright enough to put two and two together.

Maybe I can win you all over by digging up some old cyrix processors and rebranding then as "SuperCPU!" Just have to pay off some people to sing their praises and put out some fake bullshit, and apparently you all be buying them by The Bushel load.

Good Lord why are people so damn gullible and not inclined to do actually do their research, instead opting for others to tell them what to think...

Trump has truly f'd your mind hasn't he? Proof? Your post makes about as much sense as his speeches.

What competition will repealing NN create? None. In fact it will allow companies to compete on how much they can rape their consumers.

I'm lucky in one regard. I live in Longmont, Co and have city run fiber. No comcast, att, cox, etc. I worry about everyone else though and I will tell everyone petition your local governments to invest in locally run fiber.
 
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Trump has truly fucked your mind hasn't he? Proof? Your post makes about as much sense as his speeches.

What competition will repealing NN create? None. In fact it will allow companies to compete on how much they can rape their consumers.

I'm lucky in one regard. I live in Longmont, Co and have city run fiber. No comcast, att, cox, etc. I worry about everyone else though and I will tell everyone petition your local governments to invest in locally run fiber.

Pfft. Whatever dude. Keep on with your TDS self.
 
Signing this wont do anything but maybe we can throttle all this telemetry thats going on.
 
Pfft. Whatever dude. Keep on with your TDS self.

Can't even defend your assertions. Truly an idol of what Trump does to the naive and stupid.

You have a mind. USE IT!

Question what Trump says. Question what you're thinking. Open your eyes and see the world as it is; not how it's told to you.

Trump is a swamp maker, not a swamp cleaner. He is only out for himself, not for you or me. This is what happens when corporations assert more control over government.
 
Threads like this are proof that even people who build computers for a living don't necessarily have a working brain.

Or maybe it's just pure laziness.

" what's this? This thing is called net neutrality? And it demands all traffic be equal? We must defend net neutrality!"

" um, if you read all the things referring to net neutrality, as in the actual laws governing it, it doesn't actually make all traffic equal but instead forces startup and potential rival companies to the major ISP conglomerates to shoulder in unfair amount of cost thereby preventing any competition in keeping the ISP monopolies intact, killing competition. It doesn't actually have anything to do with net neutrality at all."

" what? Is that can't be right! It's called net neutrality after all! And those nice reporters who are paid by Comcast and other isps to tell me what to think said so! Out with you! Burn the witch!"


Seriously. The petition will do nothing and in a few years when net neutrality in its current form is dead, and competition has been opened up as well as the major ISP conglomerates finally are forced to lower prices due to competition from startups, I doubt any of you Geniuses will be bright enough to put two and two together.

Maybe I can win you all over by digging up some old cyrix processors and rebranding then as "SuperCPU!" Just have to pay off some people to sing their praises and put out some fake bullshit, and apparently you all be buying them by The Bushel load.

Good Lord why are people so damn gullible and not inclined to do actually do their research, instead opting for others to tell them what to think...


 
Threads like this are proof that even people who build computers for a living don't necessarily have a working brain.

Or maybe it's just pure laziness.

" what's this? This thing is called net neutrality? And it demands all traffic be equal? We must defend net neutrality!"

" um, if you read all the things referring to net neutrality, as in the actual laws governing it, it doesn't actually make all traffic equal but instead forces startup and potential rival companies to the major ISP conglomerates to shoulder in unfair amount of cost thereby preventing any competition in keeping the ISP monopolies intact, killing competition. It doesn't actually have anything to do with net neutrality at all."

" what? Is that can't be right! It's called net neutrality after all! And those nice reporters who are paid by Comcast and other isps to tell me what to think said so! Out with you! Burn the witch!"


Seriously. The petition will do nothing and in a few years when net neutrality in its current form is dead, and competition has been opened up as well as the major ISP conglomerates finally are forced to lower prices due to competition from startups, I doubt any of you Geniuses will be bright enough to put two and two together.

Maybe I can win you all over by digging up some old cyrix processors and rebranding then as "SuperCPU!" Just have to pay off some people to sing their praises and put out some fake bullshit, and apparently you all be buying them by The Bushel load.

Good Lord why are people so damn gullible and not inclined to do actually do their research, instead opting for others to tell them what to think...

I have done my research.

Now let me ask you a question: if the 25 years before net neutrality, what competition have you seen?

ISP lobbyist claim the want to repeal net neutrality to encourage competition. Imagine that a company wanting competition. How very Nobel of them.

Wasn't it the major isp's suing local municipalities to prevent them from providing broadband service? Local governments are protected under net neutrality.

Signed Mr Brainless without a clue.
 
I'm paying for a service. Be it 5mbps, 25, 50 or 1+GBPs. I'm paying for that, and should be able to get a "reasonable" value therein. If it's busy and it slows down to 50% of the speed for a bit... that's one thing, but the ISP shouldn't offer a package it doesn't have the infrastructure to support.

I buy a 5 port gigabit router. All 5 ports attempt to transfer data at full speed. Do all 5 ports achieve gigabit speed? Should this router be allowed to be sold as a "gigabit" router if they do not?
 
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