Damn 7820x is impressive (my own chip)

Couldn't help myself, just ordered a 7820x, MSI X299 SLI plus and 4x8 GB DDR4 RAM. And just for the heck of it I also ordered the latest Sims 4 expansion (gift for my wife). Wonder what the guy packing the shipment will think; "overkill much?" :). Anyways, got a really good deal and looking forward to fire up this beast!
 
OP,

I just ordered mine yesterday. I'll be using an H115 in push only. Do you think 4.7Ghz across all cores would be a reasonable overclock?
 
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Darkswordz said:
OP,

I just ordered mine yesterday. I'll be using an H115 in push only. Do you think 4.7Ghz across all cores would be a reasonable overclock?
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Not at all without a delid. Most I could do with a custom loop in push pull triple radiator was 90c at 4 cores at 3.6 6x 4.4 and all 8 4.2 or something like that.

After a delid and a monoblock on same custom loop I can do 4.7 all cores at no more than 75c wide open. 4.8 at 85 and 4.9 is still 90 plus but my chip is golden. Im doing 8x 4.7 at 1.22 volts wide open and stable. Ymmv.

Here is crap pic of my monoblock...

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Yeah, that's the price I bought mine. I had Newegg price match it.

Amazon also had the 12c/24t i7-7920X on sale for $888.00 for a brief period yesterday too. :eek: I was tempted to jump on that, but I don't need 12 cores for gaming.
 
tangoseal said:
Ok here is my batch...

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Hey Tango, I just got this CPU myself, do you know what settings silicon lottery gave u when u got your cpu back from them? I got mine off newegg, I plan to run this with a Noctua D15, should I expect similar results to your water cooling setup?
 
gettodachopa said:
Hey Tango, I just got this CPU myself, do you know what settings silicon lottery gave u when u got your cpu back from them? I got mine off newegg, I plan to run this with a Noctua D15, should I expect similar results to your water cooling setup?
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Nope no settings. I have been overclocking for quite some time. You need a good board. People forget that budgets boards dont OC well.

No amount of air cooling can wick the heat away as fast as a true water cooling system. In fact h2o cooling used to be an extreme method and given the global number of PCs that are sold and built water cooling still is considered far out.

As far as the d15 that thing is big loud behemoth. Unless you already bought one I would recommend a good twin fan All in one. Its not as good as water but better than air and way quieter. The d15 is a big system and will.probably come close but where your appraoching peak temps you need somwthing that can pull the heat faster to avoid spikes leading to throttling.

Good luck
 
Thanks for the info, I had them bin it as well, they binned it at 4.7 @ 1.25V. I picked up the MSI M7 Gaming ACK X299 board to go along with the CPU. Newegg had the 7820x for 499 during the cyber monday deal, so I pounced on that to upgrade from my old 3570k.
 
Mine was binned at 4.6 at 1.25v
3 avx offset
5 avx512

I run it at 4.5 on my scythe fuma with no issues.
 
Yeah I just binned my own lol ...

Not hard really . Just takes time and patience. I found that mine is 4.9 stable at 1.28v and 5.0 is doable but the voltage is over 1.3x to get there. Not worth it for such minimal gains. I run mine at 4.8 1.25 now all day long and its avg temp during SLI gaming sli gaming is around 45-55c never going higher and benching is like 71c

I got a good chip. I don't really trust anyone else even Si lottery doing a so called "Binning" job.

I have a B stepping chip and I do not know if that matters or not compared to the new ones you guys just purchased. My chip is maybe a month old.
 
I have mine coming back from Silicon Lottery on Thursday. I just had them delid it and put on liquid metal, no binning.
 
Also unless im gaming I always run my system in power save mode in Windows power profile so my chip can't go higher than 2200mhz and only pulls 0.7v under load.

It run super cool and quiet and only one fan is spinning to keep my radiator cool when there are 5 other offline to prevent noise. I run 3x3 push pull on my radiator to cool twin 1080ti and 7820x under load. So I have a lot of cooling power when I need it and that might be why my temps are also low. I dont want to mislead anyone thinking of aircooling these things.

Another thing to add.... 7820x overclocked can really push the piss out of twin 1080ti's. They are so smooth now compared to other chips I have tried. I haven't tried coffee lake yet but I assume the same thing would happen on those high IPC processors as well.
 
Did you give up on helping [H] with the WCG Christmas challenge tangoseal ? We are currently in first place, but 2nd place China is catching us pretty quickly. We could use some help.
 
It started on the first of this month. This is the current, up-to-date standings. Next update will be in about 8 or 9 hours.

Code: 
Rank    Team                                             Score    3-day avg.    Mon, Dec 4    Sun, Dec 3    Sat, Dec 2    Fri, Dec 1
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1 -->   HardOCP                                     70,425,786    14,636,057    14,625,666    14,140,557    15,141,949    26,517,614
2       Team China                                  65,856,043    16,320,838    16,440,585    16,329,877    16,192,052    16,893,529
3       TeAm AnandTech                              20,584,002     4,364,203     3,107,254     4,450,246     5,535,110     7,491,392
4       Team Andrax                                 10,710,502     2,669,527     2,815,432     2,645,391     2,547,757     2,701,922
5       UK                                           9,233,047     2,239,775     2,274,506     2,073,122     2,371,696     2,513,723
6       SNURK and friends                            7,243,171     1,808,992     1,806,261     1,780,539     1,840,176     1,816,195
7       MyOnlineTeam                                 5,334,956     1,335,686     1,346,764     1,325,133     1,335,162     1,327,897
8       BRASIL - BRAZIL@GRID                         3,811,307       948,813     1,088,218       870,170       888,051       964,868
9       SETIKAH@KOREA                                2,439,057       622,389       699,300       605,266       562,602       571,889
10      Vulture Central III                          2,154,429       543,015       539,894       552,343       536,809       525,383
11      Kraland                                      1,621,975       400,520       418,173       407,950       375,436       420,416
12      Chicago-IL-USA                               1,156,471       283,458       271,781       269,377       309,215       306,098
13      top40.nl                                       970,864       267,196       337,621       276,301       187,665       169,277
14      SeriousCrunchers                               725,477       241,826       376,675       348,802             0          n.a.
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21      Sweden#Crunch                                  262,693        64,828        62,756        66,018        65,710        68,209
22      Naked for the World                            230,588        58,581        54,951        24,600        96,193        54,844
23      BOINC@Malaysia                                 220,092        52,777        56,004        48,844        53,483        61,761
24      Bird Conservation                              215,833        52,543        47,922        52,181        57,527        58,203
25      oliopur78                                      146,317        31,967        40,107        29,660        26,133        50,417
26      World Bus LTD                                  132,138        34,035        39,920        32,445        29,741        30,032
27      BOINC@TOKYO                                    107,504        26,008        18,984        36,941        22,099        29,480
28      ALSACE COMMUNITY GRID                           96,640        23,612        21,360        27,639        21,837        25,804
29      STUDIO Mia                                      91,053        22,663        15,257        23,389        29,344        23,063
30      Just Me                                         89,890        22,497        23,491        23,356        20,645        22,398
31      ACOLISYS (Campinas-SP / Brazil)                 67,720        16,405        21,677        16,489        11,048        18,506
32      UTAR Malaysia                                   60,487        16,878        12,443        24,407        13,784         9,853
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36      BOINC@Pfalz                                     54,352        15,031        15,482        16,590        13,021         9,259
37      SHANGHAI 2009                                   47,642        11,396         9,931        14,078        10,180        13,453
38      Aussie Helpers                                  11,616         3,406         6,581         3,162           474         1,399
39      kuegmi                                           7,440         1,698         1,840         1,469         1,784         2,347
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Thats nice haha .

My skylake x is crunching now and soon I will turn on my Coffee Lake I5 and my Xeon 1620 and let them crunch as I will be doing some gaming with the I7 here in a little while. Those two systems will just run the numbers non stop for a while.

This runs until the 24th right?
 
End of Day on the 24th. It'll stop at 23:59 UTC Time on the 24th.

I think. On the WCG web site it says the 25th, but I think that means it stops at the 25th which is the last minute of the 24th.
 
This has become the 7820X v 8700K fanboy showdown, my CPU is better than yours. Why can't a person use any CPU they want and can afford without the relentless need to be judged?
 
OrangeKhrush said:
This has become the 7820X v 8700K fanboy showdown, my CPU is better than yours. Why can't a person use any CPU they want and can afford without the relentless need to be judged?
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Care to elaborate? I see zero evidence of this and unless you have some compelling evidence then you are nothing but a random troll.
 
tangoseal said:
Care to elaborate? I see zero evidence of this and unless you have some compelling evidence then you are nothing but a random troll.
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You just needed to read it carefully and you will understand how this became another "mine is awesome" type debate, but whatever, you are happy with your 7820X and that is all that matters.
 
OrangeKhrush said:
You just needed to read it carefully and you will understand how this became another "mine is awesome" type debate, but whatever, you are happy with your 7820X and that is all that matters.
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Huh? I started the thread to praise the chip.

You need to re read it not me. I made the thread. And its not a pissing match if I owned an 8700k as well as 7820x and so that gives me the right in my own thread to compare the two. I now own an 8600k instead as well as my Skylake x.

Whats your beef here?
 
I think he's tired of the endless bashing by the Intel Defense Force in the other threads and assumed this was one of those threads.
 
kirbyrj said:
I think he's tired of the endless bashing by the Intel Defense Force in the other threads and assumed this was one of those threads.
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Nothing to do with it but there are some serious flaws with making statements that a 7820X is the best value proposition around when a small minority can afford the entire platform. It then became a It is better than a 8700K at everything including gaming etc with caveats on overclocking and all that jazz.

I would be fine if it was, I am really impressed with my 7820X, some benches and rainbows, but when it starts becoming a value showdown even against a 8700K which the 8700K is marginally better value for money in then its like becomes a "look at me I have money to blow on a PC"

As it stands the 7820X is probably good value for those in the money, especially compared to something like the 7900 series though as a full platform it is hardly better value for money than a mainstream platform this despite my reservations on the 8700K really being mainstream by standards these days.
 
Let me give you a value proposition though. 7820x was as low as $449. I got a GB Aorus Gaming 3 MB for $170AR with a free case and psu.

So you can get 2 more cores for slightly more money. If you shop around the x299 doesn't have to be prohibitively expensive compared to an 8700k. Ryzen systems will give you more bang for the buck though.

At no point did I take Tangoseal's posts to be a slight to the 8700k (this coming from someone who detests Intel for locking out the 8700k from my Z270 board).
 
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This is [H] forum. An enthusiast community of the cutting edge 1% of the market. Were not QVC where we discuss 19 easy payments of 9.99 on your budget Celeron. If you want that then go to Walmart.com and get a prebuilt but we at [H] discuss stuff that is enthusiast grade.

You dont go to a DJI drone forum and get angry because you cant afford one and all they talk about is 1000 dollar drones. You dont go ti a ferrarri forum and get pissed because they discourage those that can only buy a Honda by the very tone of thier forum.

Maybe H is not for you Orange?

If you cant afford a 7820x no one is judging you and there is no price diff in a 7820x and a 8700k right now realistically, then skip this thread and move on. There is and was no need for you to get irritated at something you cant or dont want to afford. I dont go in the 7980xe thread if there was one and bash them for not being able to afford what they think is a good chip.
 
tangoseal said:
As far as the d15 that thing is big loud behemoth. Unless you already bought one I would recommend a good twin fan All in one. Its not as good as water but better than air and way quieter. The d15 is a big system and will.probably come close but where your appraoching peak temps you need somwthing that can pull the heat faster to avoid spikes leading to throttling.
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Sorry but there's a extremely amount of misinformation in that sentence. very few CLC (not AIO) are in the levels of high-end Air Cooling both in noise and performance.. and those are such as Swiftech H240-X, EK-Predator 280, and related pre-assembled water cooling kits. those are the ones that are able to match and surpass High-end Air cooling in performance at similar noise.. those in the areas of AIO (Corsair H100/H110/H115, NZXT X62, Cooler Master Nepton/Seidon, etc etc) made from derivatives of CooliT or Asetek 240/280mm, may offer similar cooling to high-end Air cooling but at exponentially higher Noise Levels being awfully loud... High-End Air cooling as NH-D14/NH-D15, Cryorig R1, Thermalright SilverArrow, Thermalright TRUE Spirit, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Prolimatech Megahalems, Scythe Mugen/Fuma, albeit of all being BIG, all offer astronomically better cooling than 240/280mm AIO at astronomically lower Noise levels.
 
Araxie said:
Sorry but there's a extremely amount of misinformation in that sentence. very few CLC (not AIO) are in the levels of high-end Air Cooling both in noise and performance.. and those are such as Swiftech H240-X, EK-Predator 280, and related pre-assembled water cooling kits. those are the ones that are able to match and surpass High-end Air cooling in performance at similar noise.. those in the areas of AIO (Corsair H100/H110/H115, NZXT X62, Cooler Master Nepton/Seidon, etc etc) made from derivatives of CooliT or Asetek 240/280mm, may offer similar cooling to high-end Air cooling but at exponentially higher Noise Levels being awfully loud... High-End Air cooling as NH-D14/NH-D15, Cryorig R1, Thermalright SilverArrow, Thermalright TRUE Spirit, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Prolimatech Megahalems, Scythe Mugen/Fuma, albeit of all being BIG, all offer astronomically better cooling than 240/280mm AIO at astronomically lower Noise levels.
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Well then there ya go! I dont run any of that and havent for a decade. I have been custom looped so long after so many builds I think everything else is subpar and im.probably right. My custom loop can keep two 1080tis and an 8 core 2066 floating at 50 to 60 under max load all day long. No aio or Clc as you call them can do all of that.

So I admit I am not qualified by direct experience to make such claims about the noctua vs aio as I do not use one.

Id tell that person build a custom loop but who wants to spend 500 to do it right so get an clc instead or a fancy air cooler and be done.
 
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I'm using a dual tower Scythe Fuma on my 7820x and haven't had any issues. I see no reason that you'd have to go with a WC setup if you didn't want to.
 
kirbyrj said:
I'm using a dual tower Scythe Fuma on my 7820x and haven't had any issues. I see no reason that you'd have to go with a WC setup if you didn't want to.
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Thats why I self corrected my posture on this above!

I dont air cool high end so I really dont know enough to have an opinion.
 
Araxie said:
High-End Air cooling as NH-D14/NH-D15, Cryorig R1, Thermalright SilverArrow, Thermalright TRUE Spirit, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Prolimatech Megahalems, Scythe Mugen/Fuma, albeit of all being BIG, all offer astronomically better cooling than 240/280mm AIO at astronomically lower Noise levels.
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Would love to see credible sources that show "astronomically" better temps/lower noise.
 
Nice setup !

I'm actually putting together some specs/dimensions for socket P water blocks.

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I didn't see any 'fanboy showdown' but , please let me know if there is.I have something to bring.

:dead:
 
custom90gt said:
Would love to see credible sources that show "astronomically" better temps/lower noise.
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easy to find... instead of flooding the page with images I will post the latest reviews entire results page directly from [H], so you can take your own conclusion,

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/12/scythe_fuma_scfm1000_twin_tower_cpu_air_cooler/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/03/06/nzxt_kraken_x42_allinone_cpu_liquid_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/19/thermalright_true_spirit_140_direct_cpu_air_cooler/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/25/nzxt_kraken_x52_allinone_cpu_liquid_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/10/nzxt_kraken_x62_allinone_cpu_liquid_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/06/01/scythe_mugen_5_cpu_air_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/11/10/reeven_naia_240_allinone_liquid_cpu_cooler_review/3

if you need more, just tell me ;)
 
Araxie said:
easy to find... instead of flooding the page with images I will post the latest reviews entire results page directly from [H], so you can take your own conclusion,

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/12/scythe_fuma_scfm1000_twin_tower_cpu_air_cooler/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/03/06/nzxt_kraken_x42_allinone_cpu_liquid_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/19/thermalright_true_spirit_140_direct_cpu_air_cooler/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/25/nzxt_kraken_x52_allinone_cpu_liquid_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/10/nzxt_kraken_x62_allinone_cpu_liquid_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/06/01/scythe_mugen_5_cpu_air_cooler_review/3

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/11/10/reeven_naia_240_allinone_liquid_cpu_cooler_review/3

if you need more, just tell me ;)
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You realize the the links you posted show all of the air coolers getting beat by good 240 AIOs right? Even the very best FUMA gets beat by the best AIO and is still within 1C/1dB of the other good AIOs. I guess that's what you meant by "astronomical." I guess my frame of reference was off.
 
I just got my rig up and running, its working good so far. I got it at 4.7 @ 1.25V as specified from SL, Im doing some gaming on it, so far so good. Its staying below 60C during gaming which is good. My ambient air temperature is low which is probably helping.
 
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