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Monkey God

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With the Amazon sales going on with TR's and mobo's decided to go ahead and pull the trigger on a TR build I've been holding off now for a while. Newegg has no sales tax but I wanted Amazons more solid customer support and return policies.

1) AMD TR 1950X - $799

2) Zenith Extreme Mobo - $499 - I wanted the Taichi but most places are out of stock. Zenith is pricey but has good reviews. Also seems to be performing well for people doing GPU pass-through.

3) 128GB RAM: 4 X G.Skill (2X16GB ripjaws) - $1436 - I spent most of my time research RAM for this build. Wanted 128GB kits that people had actually installed and got working. Fastest RAM speed possible wasn't as critical for me. By far the most expensive part of the build. RAM prices go home, you're drunk.

4) Enermax LIQTECH TR4 360mm AIO cooler - these were out of stock for a while but are solid performers for those not wanting to do a custom build. I have had good luck with Corsair AIO coolers for all my previous builds - hopefully this works as well.

5) 4 X 4TB HGST HDD drives - $360 - for bulk storage, had to jump on that now dead NewEgg deal.

6) Using an older Corsair 800D case (monstrous and has room for the 360mm AIO).

7) Have a Corsair NIB HX850 PS laying around which I will use until I get around to sorting out my multiple GPU selection.

Haven't decided on all my drives yet...have lots of various ones laying around but I intend to use threadrippers PCI lanes for fast NVME RAID duties and multiple GPU's. Microsoft are being pricks about not wanting W7 to support newest hardware and I dont like W10, so I will likely use this opportunity to jump to Linux full-time and utilize GPU pass-through. This rig will be used for virtualization, GPU pass-through and AI/Machine learning.

Ill post updates as the parts show up and I start sorting out the issues - specially around GPU pass-through.
 
Nice! Please keep us (me!) updated, I was planning a similar build not long ago, but had to postpone it for a bit.

I'll be using linux too, with some virtualization, and 128GB RAM, so i'm very interested in your experiences :)
Thanks,
 
nunosilva said:
Nice! Please keep us (me!) updated, I was planning a similar build not long ago, but had to postpone it for a bit.

I'll be using linux too, with some virtualization, and 128GB RAM, so i'm very interested in your experiences :)
Thanks,
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Will do.
 
Monkey God said:
With the Amazon sales going on with TR's and mobo's decided to go ahead and pull the trigger on a TR build I've been holding off now for a while. Newegg has no sales tax but I wanted Amazons more solid customer support and return policies.

1) AMD TR 1950X - $799

2) Zenith Extreme Mobo - $499 - I wanted the Taichi but most places are out of stock. Zenith is pricey but has good reviews. Also seems to be performing well for people doing GPU pass-through.

3) 128GB RAM: 4 X G.Skill (2X16GB ripjaws) - $1436 - I spent most of my time research RAM for this build. Wanted 128GB kits that people had actually installed and got working. Fastest RAM speed possible wasn't as critical for me. By far the most expensive part of the build. RAM prices go home, you're drunk.

4) Enermax LIQTECH TR4 360mm AIO cooler - these were out of stock for a while but are solid performers for those not wanting to do a custom build. I have had good luck with Corsair AIO coolers for all my previous builds - hopefully this works as well.

5) 4 X 4TB HGST HDD drives - $360 - for bulk storage, had to jump on that now dead NewEgg deal.

6) Using an older Corsair 800D case (monstrous and has room for the 360mm AIO).

7) Have a Corsair NIB HX850 PS laying around which I will use until I get around to sorting out my multiple GPU selection.

Haven't decided on all my drives yet...have lots of various ones laying around but I intend to use threadrippers PCI lanes for fast NVME RAID duties and multiple GPU's. Microsoft are being pricks about not wanting W7 to support newest hardware and I dont like W10, so I will likely use this opportunity to jump to Linux full-time and utilize GPU pass-through. This rig will be used for virtualization, GPU pass-through and AI/Machine learning.

Ill post updates as the parts show up and I start sorting out the issues - specially around GPU pass-through.
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Holy crap!!! You know things have gone APE-skat when the Ram about eclipses the rest of the build.
 
Well I got all the parts in but it looks like the PS is bad. The mobo starts up and then the PS clicks and shuts off. I dont have any other dual CPU 4+4 power supplies laying around so got to wait until Friday when stores open up and try another PS.

Also, the AMD engineer who designed the CPU locking mechanism should be tossed into a woodchipper. Christ. Took an hour just to get the CPU locked in.
 
Its not the engineer, its the crappy sockets that are used. There's a ton of videos out there showing the fault and the easiest way of getting the processor locked in
 
Its a terrible design if it requires extraordinary fine tolerances that if not met can easily damage a very expensive chip. I will agree though the onus is on the mobo manufacturers to put out quality products. A $500 mobo should not have a good chance of binning your brand new CPU by just trying to install it.
 
Monkey God said:
Well I got all the parts in but it looks like the PS is bad. The mobo starts up and then the PS clicks and shuts off. I dont have any other dual CPU 4+4 power supplies laying around so got to wait until Friday when stores open up and try another PS.

Also, the AMD engineer who designed the CPU locking mechanism should be tossed into a woodchipper. Christ. Took an hour just to get the CPU locked in.
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Did you watch the video Kyle made on using the locking mechanism?
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
Did you watch the video Kyle made on using the locking mechanism?
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Yep - watched every video I could find before I started. The only way I could get mine to work was to slightly engage the two back screws and then using ALOT of force and fiddling engage the top single screw.
 
I've seen there are 2 manufacturer making the locking mechanisms and apparently one of them sucks ass and takes way more force then necessary... Looks like you drew the short straw... I do not u understand why there is not some type of recall for the crap...
 
Just put the new PS in - same behavior. So either a bad CPU or bad MB. Taking it all out of the case, reseating the CPU and then trying again outside the case to see if I can get different results.

Basically, it tries to start and then immediately stops. If I power it up without a GPU - it will *sometimes* boot right after a CMOS reset and the status code will show VGA after 20 seconds or so - which implies its working. As soon as I try it a GPU, it wont boot. Ive tried 3 different GPU's all of which worked previously.
 
OK - took the CPU out and reseated it - that seems to have sorted it out. It required ALOT of force and fiddling to get right. Kyles video was helpful to get that first screw started - but you still need a shit ton of force to get those screws started. You also need to turn each one in turn a bit by bit alternating so you bring that plate down equally on the CPU.

Avoid Foxconn socket mechanisms, apparently they are the ones with the most issues. Now its time to put in all the rest of my goodies and move on to the next challenge - see if I can get an OS installed :)

Edit:

Actually my next challenge is getting it to boot with 128GB of RAM. Likely needs a BIOS upgrade. 64GB works.

Edit2:
Got the RAM working @ ~3100ghz, but only with 4X16GB sticks. Any more than 4 sticks and it wont post no matter what settings I use. Will try a few more ideas but may end up just sending those other sticks back. Ubuntu 17.10 is running and installed and I am just doing some memtest to make sure its solid before I look at overclocking the CPU any.

FYI - dont run memtest in SMP mode, it likes to randomly reboot. Neat.
 
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I just built my thread ripper system over the weekend. I used a asrock tachi mb. I had the foxcon socket.
Man it was seriously a real bitch to get all 3 screws started. I didn't have to use extreme force like u did but
i used way more then i was comfortable with. Also i thought my torque wrench was broke since it took so much
more twisting force to get it to click then most of the videos i have seen. Really glad for the Kyle utube video. I had issues with the blue
slot thingies. Couldn't get them to release so i could pull the top piece up

I am only running 32gig memory but had zero issues with it. I too did a lot of research and from what i can tell getting 128gigs working
can be a real bear. Its silicon lottery on the memory controller from what i have read. U might want to exchange your processor see if u get
one that will work better. A lot of folks could get it working with 7 mem slots filled but not the 8th.

I am only running the 1920x. So far its a real beast !! I been so impressed with it. Man does it suck power !!! I had it running at 4.1 gigs and
it was pulling almost 200 watts on a benchmark.

Going to have to reset my water block. My temps are way to high. Though u have two different ones CPU(Tctl) and CPU(tdie) The tdie is way lower
in hw64info. The tctl hit 83c !!! during my benchmark run. Seems way high for the amount of cooling i have 420 + 280 for cpu/gpu.with a ambient temp
in the 68f range. Got to love heating the house via threadripper !!! :)
 
Yeah I am still working the memory issue. Ill try a few more things but I will just live with 64GB if I have to. I also never got the torque wrench to click. I put that fucking thing in a vice and tried to get it to click. 12inch pounds my ass. I have extensive automotive mechanic experience and know how to use torque wrenches. That "wrench" is not accurate I can guarantee that. Feels more like 20-30 FT lbs if you ask me.

CPU seems to be good - was able to run 3.8ghz with just two very minor voltage bumps. Will try higher speeds later. RAM ended up not being stable @ 3100ghz...passed MemTest but failed P95. Got it down to 3000 or so. Dont remember the exact speed but I am happy with it. I may try higher speed with more voltage later once I get the CPU clocked where I want - since that is likely the restriction anyways.

So far its been running VERY cool with the TR4 360 AIO setup - around 47-48C with P95'ing @ 3.8Ghz.
 
Basic overclocking done - passing basic P95 and Cinebench tests @ 3.95Ghz running at a low voltage (still tweaking). 4.0Ghz requires ALOT more voltage to run stable so I am going to leave it a the sweet spot. Bummed I can't run 8 slots of RAM but I will live with it.
 
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Monkey God said:
Its a terrible design if it requires extraordinary fine tolerances that if not met can easily damage a very expensive chip. I will agree though the onus is on the mobo manufacturers to put out quality products. A $500 mobo should not have a good chance of binning your brand new CPU by just trying to install it.
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Join the club. Been there, experienced that. Then everyone who hasn't had this exact problem tells you yore doing it wrong lol, video or not. Gotta love it huh? There are some real tolerance issues with the socket manufacturing. Some sockets are easy peasy and some are a bitch and a half.
 
I have the Gigabyte x399 board and I believe that has the Foxconn socket. I didn't find it too difficult to get it started, but I was prepared for it after seeing all the videos.

Looks like a killer build you have started! Keep us posted on your progress!
 
Thanks - its running good. The Ryzen Master tool is kind of buggy and a pain to deal with but Im still testing/tweaking the OC. Not being able to setup a RAID in BIOS is a bummer - so no hardware RAID for you unless you run W10. Overall stability, performance is good. Right now I have it running some VM's and mining some Monero for long-term stability testing to make sure its all good.
 
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