Go home memory prices, you're drunk.

Gasaraki_ said:
So yesterday I looked at the TridentZ 14C 3200 RGB, it was $249. Today, $279. WTF.
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As high as these prices appear to be today, they are actually cheap relative to what a 2x256MB Kit of DDR400 / PC3200 cost back in the days of Socket 939 & 478.

I understand that prices have jumped compared to what they were not that long ago, but my point is simply that all things considered, ram is still not not that expensive when compared to historical prices, or in relation to current CPUs & GPUs pricing.
 
86 5.0L said:
Is DDR3 overpriced as well or just DDR4?
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Here in the UK 8GB sets that cost me £35 a couple of years ago are now going for around £65 so yes.


However, a quick look in my December 1995 issue of Net User states that 32MB (yes MB) of RAM back then cost -

£831.00! Now allowing for UK inflation that would be £1500.00 ($1980.00) in today's money.
 
daglesj said:
Here in the UK 8GB sets that cost me £35 a couple of years ago are now going for around £65 so yes.


However, a quick look in my December 1995 issue of Net User states that 32MB (yes MB) of RAM back then cost -

£831.00! Now allowing for UK inflation that would be £1500.00 ($1980.00) in today's money.
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...and that is exactly the point of my previous post. Compared to what we were paying back then, these current ram prices could be considered to be bargain purchases.
 
Reefa_Madness said:
...and that is exactly the point of my previous post. Compared to what we were paying back then, these current ram prices could be considered to be bargain purchases.
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The cost of 20 year old RAM isn't really relevant though. What IS relevant is the fact that 12-18 months ago, RAM was half the price it is now for the same sticks.
 
By your logic, the price of ram 12-18 months ago is also irrelevant, as the only thing that is really matters to a current Buyer is today's price, not yesterday's...or 12 months ago. Historically, the prices of ram fluctuate, they are seldom static for any length of time. That is just the nature of the beast and anyone that had played this game for a while has seen this play out over and over and fully understands this.

The point of the reference to the 15 to 20-year old ram prices is that simply put, even at today's "inflated" prices, compared to what it cost to populate your rig with what was the normal quantity of ram for the time, prices today could (should?) still be considered dirt cheap. The wining about having to pay $130 to $200 (or so) for 2x8GB sticks of DDR4 is kinda humorous to someone that had to pay $250 for a kit of 2x256MB of ram.
 
At least I'm comparing RAM that's a 1:1 comparison. Last year I bought 2x8GB DDR4 for $89 and this year the same kit is $190. I'm saying your metric is flawed because the cost per MB/GB has obviously decreased significantly just as how a $1000 Pentium 4 extreme edition now has the processing power of an Atom CPU and costs $10 on Fleabay. The better comparison would be if your 2x256MB kit went from $250 to $500 in the span of a year between 199X and 199X. THIS is what just happened to memory prices. So of course people like myself are going to complain. You can call it whining, but I don't like paying double the price for the same thing I bought last year for half what it costs now.

You're not the only old timer here. The same 2x256MB kit of SDRAM that went in our Pentium III setups isn't worth shit now even if it cost $250 20 years ago. I have a box of them I'll send you for the cost of shipping :p.
 
You've been around long enough to have seen prices go up and down. This isn't unique to the current DDR4, it happened with DDR3 / DDR2 / DDR1 and beyond...all while it was still the current platform at the time. This is not something new.

As for what those modules or processors are worth today on eBay...talk about non-relevance.

And thanks for catching the typo. I'd be surprised if that was the only one.
 
lol, these prices are giving serious flashbacks of the 80's prices.

On another note, someone at work gave me a precision t3600 with a 6 core xeon. i didnt pay too much mind until it booted and said 32 gb of ram.

Yeah, keeping it!
 
grtitan said:
lol, these prices are giving serious flashbacks of the 80's prices.

On another note, someone at work gave me a precision t3600 with a 6 core xeon. i didnt pay too much mind until it booted and said 32 gb of ram.

Yeah, keeping it!
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Fantastic way of getting ram, people give away systems / sell them for a song, not knowing what memory could be worth these days.
 
yowen said:
Fantastic way of getting ram, people give away systems / sell them for a song, not knowing what memory could be worth these days.
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DDR3 ECC is dirt cheap. Still, no complaints, especially when work gave me two HP Z600s w/24GB.
Spent a few $$$ on two matched pairs of X5670s, and now I have two extra 24T / 24GB systems :D
 
Reefa_Madness said:
You've been around long enough to have seen prices go up and down.
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Really the first time, in awhile at least, where the current mass-produced RAM (DDR4) has doubled in price. That's why the current situation is unique; generally, as a memory standard goes out of production, like consumer DDR3 is today, price goes back up, while the current standard goes down until it's replaced.

We don't have a DDR5 coming online, but DDR4 shows no signs of abating its inflation.

[and flash has barely budged too- I'd thought I'd sword off spinners, but just picked up 3TB on sale...]
 
Reefa_Madness said:
As high as these prices appear to be today, they are actually cheap relative to what a 2x256MB Kit of DDR400 / PC3200 cost back in the days of Socket 939 & 478.

I understand that prices have jumped compared to what they were not that long ago, but my point is simply that all things considered, ram is still not not that expensive when compared to historical prices, or in relation to current CPUs & GPUs pricing.
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Ok... I used to get 128MB sticks of RDRAM for my PIII computer for like $150. So?
 
Early 2016 I helped a friend build a 6700k system, he purchased 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-3200 for $65. Around this time I also bought 16GB G.SKill DDR3-1866 for $55.
Late 2016 I helped my cousin build a 6600k system, he purchased 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-3000 for $90
March 2017 I build my system with a 6700k, Purchased 16GB G.Skill Trident-Z DDR4-3200 for $120 (was on sale for the same price as Ripjaws)
Today 16GB G.Skill DDR4-3200 Ripjaws is just over $150
 
Just ordered a single 16gb crucial sodimm for my Asus GL502vmk laptop. Can't believe the price for ddr4 I paid 147 USD and that was the lowest price. Afraid if didn't grab, the price would be over 200 in a week. Weird memory slot scenerio 8gb soldered on board and and only one free slot. Don't know if I really need 24 GB of ram....
 
I've got two, maybe three rigs in a holding pattern for platform upgrades due to dd4 prices, which for one would cost more than the cpu+mobo. I've half a mind to buy the MC bundles on BF and then wait for RAM prices to drop.
 
My wife said she wanted to upgrade her current machine (she is a web developer) to write off some profit against tax. Didn't want to go crazy just spend a couple of hundred pounds or so.

So her machine currently has a FX6300 and 2x8GB DDR3 1866. I've decided to keep those and the current SSD (BX100) due to the cost of replacing 16GB with DDR4 (which web dev doesn't really need).

I got a new Gigabyte 990X board for just £75! https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-990X-Gaming-SLI-rev-10#ov which gives her USB3.1/NVME and SATAIII (yes her old AM3 board only had SATAII).

So all the old hardware including the Quadro 2000 will go back into that (might get in a 500GB SSD) and we'll rebuild it with 10 before Dec 31st ( I did the upgrade last year on a clone of her existing Win 7 retail build but it will be for the old motherboard so I need to do it again).

Had RAM prices been around the £80 for 16GB DDR4 I would have pushed for a whole new Ryzen rig...
 
Reefa_Madness said:
As high as these prices appear to be today, they are actually cheap relative to what a 2x256MB Kit of DDR400 / PC3200 cost back in the days of Socket 939 & 478.

I understand that prices have jumped compared to what they were not that long ago, but my point is simply that all things considered, ram is still not not that expensive when compared to historical prices, or in relation to current CPUs & GPUs pricing.
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You don't even have to go back that far.



I just checked, when I bought RAM for my i7 930 it as on 8/24/2010 and it was $198 for 6GB of DDR3.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226121

https://imgur.com/zJeGoTF

Even right now 8GB of DDR4 3000mhz even is under $100.


So 7 years ago RAM was actually more than twice as expensive as it is today.
 
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2/23/2013 4 x 8gb ddr3 1600

At work today I order 8 x 16gb ddr4 ecc memory, $2,500!
 
SirMaster said:
You don't even have to go back that far.



I just checked, when I bought RAM for my i7 930 it as on 8/24/2010 and it was $198 for 6GB of DDR3.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226121

https://imgur.com/zJeGoTF

Even right now 8GB of DDR4 3000mhz even is under $100.


So 7 years ago RAM was actually more than twice as expensive as it is today.
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And on 11/23/2012 I bought 32gb of DDR3 (4x8gb) for $109. That 32gb kit I linked in my first post is up from nearly $400 on Jun 27th to $478.
So today ram is more than 4 times as expensive as it was 5 years ago.
 
Memory prices are not coming down anytime soon, fellas. If you need (or just want) more DRAM you may as well pull the trigger now. 2018 is looking like increase in demand will continue to outpace increase in supply, resulting in higher prices. Best case scenario, prices will remain the same.
 
Gasaraki_ said:
So yesterday I looked at the TridentZ 14C 3200 RGB, it was $249. Today, $279. WTF.
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It's volatile, if you want a deal you have to be patient, use coupon codes, ect..

You also want the most desirable ram so it will cost more. If you settle for the RGB c16 3200 it has been way cheaper. Or if you want c14 but no rgb it's been the same price.

Same reason you don't find deep discounts on Corsair k70lux rgb, it's the most desirable. Same with 8700k...
 
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Yes it works for TR.

Good deals on newegg. Hoping Amazon sees something similiar since they shop to APO. Gonna hold off until cyber Monday, but it looks like I will be need to pay around $250 for 16gb of b-die. :vomit:
 
Nightfire said:
Yes it works for TR.

Good deals on newegg. Hoping Amazon sees something similiar since they shop to APO. Gonna hold off until cyber Monday, but it looks like I will be need to pay around $250 for 16gb of b-die. :vomit:
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There's your AMD tax...

:D
 
AMD tax - yeah I will give you that. I would probably get B-die if I had an Intel system anyhow.

Meanwhile, the R7 1700 is listed on Amazon Prime for $240. The 1600x is $200 and the 1800x is $320. The 8700k will be available soon on Amazon, but it is now available on newegg - for $415.
The cheapest B350 MB I saw was $65 while the Z-370 boards start at $110.

I would say the Intel tax is still worse.
 
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Sort of- problem is, you don't actually want to run the cheapest B350 boards if you're going to try to overclock the AMD setup, and if you don't, you won't get within spitting distance of the base Intel setup in games (if you need the extra CPU). So the cost is pretty tight.

I'd still recommend the AMD setup if the user has a number crunching priority like compiling or video editing, though. It's not like AMD is that far behind in gaming.
 
G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 @ newegg today, $360... and the kicker is I should likely feel good about that. Will swap the RAM out with some larger sticks once prices get back to normal. Ye gods, I had no idea. Last I looked it was cheap -- and all my current boxes were on DDR3 or ECC, so can't even swap out a set temporarily.

This one is going to be a Linux box, so will dust off the trusty nvidia 210 for a graphics card. Thought the miners would be done by now too. Nope...
 
I need another 2x8gb corsair vengeance pro ddr3 2133mhz kit and it's 150$ right now. I missed the boat when it was super low I think a year and a half ago. Feels bad.
 
I am happier and happier that I built my PC early in 2017. I won't buy any memory until prices stabilize, expected by end of spring next year. I wasn't crazy about doing a Kaby Lake build, and KBL+ would've been better due to more cores for the same price, but seeing the memory prices right now... it was a good time to buy, despite intel's ultra lazy CPU release with the original KBL.

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euskalzabe said:
I won't buy any memory until prices stabilize, expected by end of spring next year.
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Don't hold your breath; only confirmed capacity increase is Samsung adding 30k wpm to Line 16 to counteract lost capacity from node transitions. Lam Research explicitly stated on their last ER call that there are no new DRAM capacity additions planned for 2018. Demand may subside slightly due to the season but I highly doubt there will be price drops any time soon.
 
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