Watch a 10-Year-Old’s Face Unlock His Mom’s iPhone X

still dont get why apple stopped the finger print id. it worked well and i dont have to hold the phone up to my face. very lame.
 
rhexis said:
still dont get why apple stopped the finger print id. it worked well and i dont have to hold the phone up to my face. very lame.
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Because they wanted to do the same as Samsung did with the Galaxy S8, and have nearly no bezel ... well except the silly haircut at the top.

So do they do like Samsung and put the sensor in a rather awkward place on the back? Or get rid of it completely and have some super high tech solution which ends up increasing the cost of the phone, but doesn't work for shit. Apple obviously chose the latter.
 
That kid is cute for sure.
I am not quite sure what the fear is. Do people steal other people phones, then ask them to pose for a picture so they can hack their face/retina unlock? Seems unlikely.
My solution is don't lock my phone. Don't lock my car or house either. Being inconvenienced every time I use my phone on the off chance it gets stolen seems dumb to me. I would rather have stuff stolen than worry about having stuff stolen.
 
I would like to see the Touch ID built into the screen, that would be badass
 
Am I think only one who doesn't even secure their phone? If I have people in my house that I don't trust around my phone then I have a bigger problem. Other than my home my phone is never lying around somewhere.
 
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what im saying is it took a few tries before it got to that level, and if i remember right, your eye is in your face so....
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Yes, but samsung devices scan your retina's BOTH required. Inside the eyeballs, in case you neglected to read that blurb I posted for you. This means, if your sleeping, your girlfriend can't unlock your phone with your face, unless she manages to sedate you and open Both your eyeballs and have the phone deep scan your retina to get it's unique Footprint.

Face unlock = inferior
Retina Iris Unlock = Superior

Therefore = I was right, samsung has it correct with Retina.

aokman said:
Whatever drugs you are on, can you share them around please?
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Elaborate :) and/or state a point I can shoot down or prove incorrect

B00nie said:
Yeah perhaps the next iPhone will explode and maim its users and introduce gaping security holes.
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You referring to the Galaxy Note 7 where less than 1% of 1% burned or caught fire, and less than 1% of those exploded (I think it was reported the exploding ones were countable on less than 2 hands) Editing to note that, this was out of 4 Million devices. Less than 400 out of 4,000,000

That led to Samsung overhauling it's battery qualification process to become the most secure the world has ever known.

In an interesting turn of events, Apple: so eager to always copy Samsung, went with the same Battery Vendor that was literally to blame (that's right, samsung didn't manufacture these burning faulty batteries)

And the results can be seen on the Iphone 8/8+ and hopefully NOT the Iphone X

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I've said it many times before. Don't trust consumer grade bio-metrics for things you consider confidential or private. They're still not ready for prime time.
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Yes, but samsung devices scan your retina's BOTH required. Inside the eyeballs, in case you neglected to read that blurb I posted for you. This means, if your sleeping, your girlfriend can't unlock your phone with your face, unless she manages to sedate you and open Both your eyeballs and have the phone deep scan your retina to get it's unique Footprint.

Face unlock = inferior
Retina Iris Unlock = Superior
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You do realise that Face ID also checks to see if your eyes are open and looking at the device as part of its authentication process? Maybe you need to brush up on your article reading skills as well.

Also I'd hazard a guess that Face ID would fail if there were fingers in front of someone's forehead while a deviant person tried to keep their eyes open ;)

Face ID matches against depth information, which isn’t found in print or 2D digital photographs. It's designed to protect against spoofing by masks or other techniques through the use of sophisticated anti-spoofing neural networks. Face ID is even attention-aware. It recognizes if your eyes are open and looking towards the device. This makes it more difficult for someone to unlock your iPhone without your knowledge (such as when you are sleeping).
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https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208108

Whatever drugs you are on, can you share them around please?
Elaborate :) and/or state a point I can shoot down or prove incorrect
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http://bgr.com/2017/05/23/galaxy-s8-iris-unlock-hacked-video/

Seems easier to get a photo from someone (Facebook? Instagram?) and a contact lens then creating a mask based on someone's 3D face scan. This is all under the guise of being that dedicated to do something like this, of course ;)

Also note that the solution to the kid being able to unlock the phone in the article was for the mom to teach Face ID in better lighting. Then it didn't happen after that. What do you do with this iris scanning bypass?
 
lostin3d said:
I've said it many times before. Don't trust consumer grade bio-metrics for things you consider confidential or private. They're still not ready for prime time.
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I would more say that it re-inforces the need for multiple concurrent authentication methods if you want to be serious about this. Just my opinion.

We had badge swipes and full hand scanners at my last job to get through security. My guess is that iris scanning at a company would also have another authentication method that you used at the same time.

If a phone is that critical Face ID/Retina Iris Unlock with a pin combo would do better but I don't if anyone supports that.
 
Soulmetzger said:
Am I think only one who doesn't even secure their phone? If I have people in my house that I don't trust around my phone then I have a bigger problem. Other than my home my phone is never lying around somewhere.
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So much this! I do not have anything either, just pincode on boot and even that is just a habbit from pre-smart phone days. I do not store any sensitive information in my phone and banking apps have their own security features. Email is perhaps the most sensitive one but even that gets blocked the moment I change my password. And if thieves steal my phone just for the phone itself, I know they have their ways to do factory reset and keep it as their own. Security features do jack and shit in this case.
 
Soulmetzger said:
Am I think only one who doesn't even secure their phone? If I have people in my house that I don't trust around my phone then I have a bigger problem. Other than my home my phone is never lying around somewhere.
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It's not that I don't trust people in my house. I have PIN/fingerprint set up so that in the off chance I lose it or leave it somewhere, strangers wouldn't have complete access to my phone until I realize its gone. Do I keep very sensitive info on my phone? Nope, but I do have photos, emails, and stuff like that which I wouldn't want strangers to have access to.
 
Soulmetzger said:
Am I think only one who doesn't even secure their phone? If I have people in my house that I don't trust around my phone then I have a bigger problem. Other than my home my phone is never lying around somewhere.
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You never know. I have family I trust but they are known to be stick their nose where it doesn't belong. From time to time I might leave my phone at my desk or hell in the bathroom at work. Can't leave anything out at my job without people going through it if they see it. I seen people go through trash trying get others check stubs out of it after the person tossed it.
 
phillyboy said:
I would more say that it re-inforces the need for multiple concurrent authentication methods if you want to be serious about this. Just my opinion.

We had badge swipes and full hand scanners at my last job to get through security. My guess is that iris scanning at a company would also have another authentication method that you used at the same time.

If a phone is that critical Face ID/Retina Iris Unlock with a pin combo would do better but I don't if anyone supports that.
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You're totally right. Dual authentication for consumer levels. I know that Apple has that as an option but I truly believe that if a Bio-metric is offered then a secondary pin/code combination should be required not optional. I realize the majority would be like 'why should I . . . .', then it's on them for being ignorant instead of the manufacturer.
 
MaZa said:
So much this! I do not have anything either, just pincode on boot and even that is just a habbit from pre-smart phone days. I do not store any sensitive information in my phone and banking apps have their own security features. Email is perhaps the most sensitive one but even that gets blocked the moment I change my password. And if thieves steal my phone just for the phone itself, I know they have their ways to do factory reset and keep it as their own. Security features do jack and shit in this case.
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You’re obviously too old to have dickhead friends who will destroy your phone and social profile in 5 minutes if you leave it lying around.

Aside from that i do have private emails, SMSs ,images etc that I dont want dug though if the phone was lost.

Personally I think touchID is very secure in the latest iterations and fast. I cant recally anyone who has claimed to have hack it.
 
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