Watch a 10-Year-Old’s Face Unlock His Mom’s iPhone X

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Hacking Face ID, the facial recognition system built into Apple's iPhone X, isn't easy. Unless, it turns out, you're a very specific hacker—say, a rare 10-year-old kid, trying to break into the phone of whichever of your parents looks the most like you.

Attaullah Malik and Sana Sherwani made that discovery earlier this month, when their fifth-grade son, Ammar Malik, walked into the bedroom of their Staten Island home to admire their new pair of iPhone Xs just after they’d set up Face ID. Malik offered to let Ammar look at his phone instead, but the boy picked up his mother's, not knowing which was which. And a split second after he looked at it, the phone unlocked.
 
So will it no longer be racist to say "They all look alike" when Apple has shown it to be true? :D

That said how do you know that it's locked? when the kid shows the phone and says "it's locked" and then looks at it, the swipe to open screen looks the same.
 
I'd be interested to test this with my twin brother.

Neither of us would own an iPhone X, though.
 
They do look very similar but the differences should of been enough to keep her son from unlocking it.
 
sfsuphysics said:
So will it no longer be racist to say "They all look alike" when Apple has shown it to be true? :D

That said how do you know that it's locked? when the kid shows the phone and says "it's locked" and then looks at it, the swipe to open screen looks the same.
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He kind of failed at showing it well since the screen went dark immediately but right above the clock is a lock icon, when the Face ID unlocks the phone the lock changes to an open lock.
 
Jaymzkerten said:
He kind of failed at showing it well since the screen went dark immediately but right above the clock is a lock icon, when the Face ID unlocks the phone the lock changes to an open lock.
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that's how it is sometimes. it unlocks really fast and you don't have to wait a second before swiping up. You can just pick up and swipe, and it unlocks a split second before
 
what probably happened was the kid played with his mom's phone several times, unlocked with pin code, and the phone then learned his face too.

so now both their faces unlock the phone
 
I thought it was supposedly able to discern the difference between twins. If so, mother/child shouldn't even work.
 
sfsuphysics said:
So will it no longer be racist to say "They all look alike" when Apple has shown it to be true? :D
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Uh oh... wait until other people start having same results. Asian face? Unlocked. Black/brown face? Unlocked. F-Society mask? Unlocked.
 
Kdawg said:
what probably happened was the kid played with his mom's phone several times, unlocked with pin code, and the phone then learned his face too.

so now both their faces unlock the phone
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What? It is not supposed to learn any face it sees. There should be an option to turn it into learning mode to only learn the face you want to unlock it.

But this is a bullshit feature anyway.
 
apple must have hired security consultants and hackers before rolling this shit out, right?
 
Wasn't there a news piece testing out faceID with twins about a month back?

I'm pretty sure it made it on hardOCP's front news page.
 
Is it any surprise that a mediocre tech created to make people believe they need to spend more money for this device is sub par? I know we're starting to beat this topic into the ground, and soon there's going to be a very ugly animal that matches a certain human's face to open a phone and hopefully the topic will finally be officially dead and we can move on to something interesting, like hardware comparisons of phones.
 
Kdawg said:
what probably happened was the kid played with his mom's phone several times, unlocked with pin code, and the phone then learned his face too.

so now both their faces unlock the phone
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Correct. The setup is designed to adapt to changes in your face over time, and part of that includes relearning "a bit" if Face ID fails an unlock but a correct pin is entered. The system can take his Face ID data and use it for re-learning.

Please also note that it looks like the training by the mom was done in poor lighting so it had less confidence in it's score.

At WIRED's suggestion, Malik asked his wife to re-register her face to see what would happen. After Sherwani freshly programmed her face into the phone, it no longer allowed Ammar access. To further test it, Sherwani tried registering her face again a few hours later, to replicate the indoor, nighttime lighting conditions in which she first set up her iPhone X. The problem returned; Ammar unlocked the phone on his third try this time. It worked again on his sixth try. At that point, Malik says, the phone's AI seemed to learn Ammar's features, and he could consistently unlock it again and again.

All of that suggests that in the right conditions—and if parents aren't aware of the possibility—a lucky child might be able to unexpectedly access his or her parent's secrets. "Not everyone will have done this sort of testing, or they might not be aware that someone else in their family can log into the phone," says Malik.
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https://www.wired.com/story/10-year-old-face-id-unlocks-mothers-iphone-x/
 
steakman1971 said:
One of my daughters looks exactly like my wife. Facebook, Google, and others mix their tags up all the time. Looking back at baby pictures, they really look similar.
My other kid looks nothing like me. Kind of looks like the UPS guy. Hmm...
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Next time he's in the area, invite him in for dinner to see how the wife reacts. If he gets awkward and makes up some shit about having to finish his route and all that, then you have your answer.
 
Samsung does it right with the Retina. Anyway, I'm sure the Iphone 12 will have retina unlock. Since apples on that 2 year after curve copying Samsung :sneaky:
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Samsung does it right with the Retina. Anyway, I'm sure the Iphone 12 will have retina unlock. Since apples on that 2 year after curve copying Samsung :sneaky:
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https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1088397
 
DNA samples anyone. It's the only way to be sure next. I'm sure Apple wouldn't misuse that info. . . . .
 
Well, now we can overturn convictions that were gotten from fingerprints cuz they are not reliable..... oh, wait.....
 
MavericK said:
So people who look almost identical can "hack" each others' iPhone face recognition? WOW, who would have thought? :rolleyes::p
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They didn't look that similar. Certainly not similar enough that one should be able to unlock the others phone.
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Samsung does it right with the Retina. Anyway, I'm sure the Iphone 12 will have retina unlock. Since apples on that 2 year after curve copying Samsung :sneaky:
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Whatever drugs you are on, can you share them around please?
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Samsung does it right with the Retina. Anyway, I'm sure the Iphone 12 will have retina unlock. Since apples on that 2 year after curve copying Samsung :sneaky:
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Yeah perhaps the next iPhone will explode and maim its users and introduce gaping security holes.
 
MavericK said:
So people who look almost identical can "hack" each others' iPhone face recognition? WOW, who would have thought? :rolleyes::p
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So it's not secure at all. Their 3D face map bullshit is the same as the Samsung face unlock that has been around for 2 years.
 
Or you could just use a pin and accept the fact that a cell phone isn't secure. Disable the biometric bullshit as it isn't protecting a damn thing.
 
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