Only 1080 and 1060 updated so far in ComputerBase's results, 1080p still shows a bottleneck of some kind, 1080 matches V64 at 1440p and beats it in 4K.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09/forza-7-benchmark/2/
Put that in your pipe and smoke it
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So fp16 if driver implemented would be a game by game bases? Compute shader replacement for items that it would give benefit? Anyways I thought RPM was for AI, compute learning stuff than for games while it could be useful for some game compute shader stuff. I have no idea the performance advantage overall on a game using RPM? 5%-10%? Less? Well two games advertised with RPM is coming, Wolfenstein and FarCry 5, maybe we get to see what it can do then.
Boom, so now everything is back to normal, no more FP16, or Async BS. Wonder what the pipe dreamers will say about this?
Only 1080 and 1060 updated so far in ComputerBase's results, 1080p still shows a bottleneck of some kind, 1080 matches V64 at 1440p and beats it in 4K.
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-09/forza-7-benchmark/2/
Put that in your pipe and smoke it
Vega is still winning on 1080P and competing at other resolutions. Not a bad result.Boom, so now everything is back to normal, no more FP16, or Async BS. Wonder what the pipe dreamers will say about this?
But loses at 4K to the GTX 1080, and now it is significantly behind the 1080Ti.Vega is still winning on 1080P and competing at other resolutions. Not a bad result.
Exactly, I just don't see RPM making a big impact overall, maybe a few games if the developer optimizes it for some compute tasks that it can be beneficial in. As for RTG wasting time on per game basis? Helping developers with some of their code? Since PS4 Pro and the next Xbox has this, there might be some optimizations for the PC versions but I just don't see it making a big impact on the PC for performance, 5%-10% max as a wild ass guess.FP16 doing it by drivers would be a pain in the ass, lots of work would need to be done.
Depends on how much RPM will be used, added to this still have the TMU's and ROP's to worry about, once RPM is used the shader bottleneck will be removed and the ROP's and TMU's will start being bottlenecked
So either they will be hitting a ceiling.
Go Nvidia, go baby go, whoot whoot whoot - - -Boom, so now everything is back to normal, no more FP16, or Async BS. Wonder what the pipe dreamers will say about this?
Go Nvidia, go baby go, whoot whoot whoot - - -
Of course! Who wouldn't want AMD to be more competitive? The whole point of argument about Forza was that AMD fans were holding it up as some "ART OF THE POSSIBLE that can be achieved if only those gosh darn devs would code correctly!" When everyone else understood this was an anomaly and that yes, Vega 64 still barely trades with the GTX 1080. I want AMD to do better and they won't get there if people shift blame from AMD's subpar product offering unto developers not utilizing magic to make the cards perform better.Wouldn't you rather see AMD do better? So that there's actual competition and reason for NVidia to continue to innovate and advance?
-Still Running a 1070
But the game actually is coded and performing in a highly optimized, best case scenario for the hardware. First on AMD, but now on Nvidia too.The whole point of argument about Forza was that AMD fans were holding it up as some "ART OF THE POSSIBLE that can be achieved if only those gosh darn devs would code correctly!"
If true that looks awesome. Vega is blowing away the 1080 in that video and getting in striking distance of the Ti.
How do you enable HBCC? I don't see an option (maybe because I'm running Crossfire).
Ah, another bash AMD thread I see. Strange, it says AMD at the top and this is an AMD Vega thread. Oh well, I see that AMD knows what they are doing now and NVidia cannot seem to get the big boy pants on right the first time.
We have an owner's thread too. That's where the important stuff goes. Ha ha! Stick to posting in that one and you won't get a headache.
If true that looks awesome. Vega is blowing away the 1080 in that video and getting in striking distance of the Ti.
How do you enable HBCC? I don't see an option (maybe because I'm running Crossfire).
Pretty much this. Doesn't matter if it's the AMD subforum, it's hard to not compare a product to a competitor if the conversation is about performance.
If you want a echo chamber circle jerk stay in the owners thread.
........AMD could be double the performance with 1/2 the power usage and 1/3 the price ........
But it wasn't lol. What are you going to say now, it could have been if Pascal wasn't there? Can't say that either cause well Vega/Polaris, pretty much just reached Maxwell (a bit better then Maxwell 15% better) in all those metrics.
Pascal was not a big leap over Maxwell was not till they managed to get the 1080ti out thats when most noticed the difference. The 980ti is still a good card, not sure why some side graded with a 1080, didnt make sense until the 1080ti came out. You guys can bash Vega all you want but the reality is your getting a 1070ti due to it. Vega 56 hit a nice spot in the video card market the 64 not so much.
No one stated otherwise. Pascal did get at least 40% more perf/watt over Maxwell though. If we look at GTX xx80 only its much higher than that. So it was a leap in that regard.
1070ti the only reason its coming out so there is NO QUESTION to second guess the 1070 vs Vega 56. The 1070 vs Vega 56, one gives you performance a bit more (10% or so, Vega), and the other gives much less power consumption by 25%, anyone that can overclock and has the version of gtx 1070 like the AMP! will be able to get very close to an overclocked Vega 56 (that includes flashing to with the 64 bios) and still have power on their side. Might as well get a 1080 right now cause Vega 56 prices are at 1080 prices. Stupid Pack prices.
I don't think the packs are being offered anymore. It's just overpriced now.
That is bad, then retailers are taking the same route as the Founder's edition and up charging?
Well I think its priced where it should be priced, remember the SEP was specific to certain retailers and according to Gibbo it was also a separate SKU. At the moment at newegg there are no supply issues with Vega either all air cooled models and even some of the water cooled models there is only a limit of 5 cards per customer, which is decent supply. So why hasn't that lower priced SKU been restocked again?
This chart doesn't matter until we also see what clocks it can maintain after 45+ minutes of gaming.
did they say what settings were used cause if its performance settings, its lower than an Intel 8550u
I'm assuming it has to be extreme because if performance that score is trash. That's 290 performance which is not bad at all.
did they say what settings were used cause if its performance settings, its lower than an Intel 8550u
In the thread he linked a performance chart comparison that said 3DMARK11 P(erformance)