Thanks Microcenter... $500 8700k on Launch day.

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Damn Dirty Ape

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Well my wife's system is a 3 year old system and was going to surprise her this weekend with my system (i7-6700k) and build a new 8700k for myself. Its my only vice and pretty much always have permission to off to MC I go.

Normally they are the cheapest on processors so I grabbed the gigabyte board and went over to the glass case that had 3 8700k, yay!

$500.00 Isn't MSRP something like 379?


ffffuuuuuu.
 
I had them price match mine which they did. Right after they opened. No ROG motherboards however. I'm reselling mine.

There is a bid on eBay for $999 on one as of this very moment.

I'll let mine go for $899 if anyone is interested. Sealed with receipt.
 
I sold my 7700k months ago and went back to my 4770k I had sitting around... see no reason to even bother at this point it does everything I want to do exactly the same. Was looking at an upgrade for a better ITX board but at this point the pricing makes it a waste of time and money.
 
well over here it's costing $420, which surprised me because the Intel processors are usually well matched to the US MSRP, this one seem to be more expensive than usual.

But what baffles me is that it goes neck in neck against Ryzen 7's when it comes to multicore performance, or am I reading the wrong benchmarks?

I'd still pick TR over the extremes more likely, but the 8700k vs Ryzen is now seemingly in favor of 8700k strongly.
 
Just used to them having such awesome cpu prices. The fellow in BYOPC (who also conferred with another in the same dept) and was told there is the usual $40 combo discount. I'll wait a bit and try again.

No ROG boards either only strix.
 
Intel is notorious for setting pricing real close to MSRP especially for the first few weeks of launch. Got a bit of time to wait yet.
 
This is in comparison to other launches where they had normal MC pricing and even shipped at their discounted pricing (at least for the Haswell launches).
 
Burner27 said:
I was considering going from my 6700K to an 8700K, but with the mobo crap? Uh, no.
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I wanted to stretch my board a bit more and was gonna go with an 8700K too, but with that board fiasco and the refusal by intel to let us get a bios to support it, then to force us into getting a new board for it, just sank it for me as well :rolleyes:
 
they could sell at $20-$90 per chip and allow upgrade via older motherboards, but it is Intel, so they want to under or overcharge, reduce spec on build quaility, and insist NO previous generation motherboard compatibility..

They legally should NOT be allowed to sell below MSRP or "fair market pricing" cause that enforces monopolistic practices not only for north america, but everywhere..if the raw performance and power consumed is the same as previous generation and same cores/thread count, the pricing should be the same, if more cores, reduce actual power consumed ok a higher price, like Ryzen vs Piledriver/Bulldozer, very justifiable the price is higher they are substantially better all around, sure they dont hit 5Ghz, but, they also not seem to use a ton of power or are space heaters AND they are very capable performers all around.

wish that turbocore/turbo boost would die horrible death TBH, X speed with load or reduced speed no load it works well has for years but now, there is X base speed X turbo on X cores depending on power/temperature/load fancy but seems stupid IMO especially if they are really wanting to be multi-core focused future ^.^.

Intel IMO for 2017 is mehhh, their stock price really has not shown such, whereas AMD for 2017 has been excellent and yet their stock price beyond the first "boom" for Ryzen (2016-2017) has not really jumped much (sitting $10-$13.50 no matter what wins/sales they have recorded, like every investor/backseat stock firms are being paid to enforce keeping it low or something) then there is Nv where stock pricing has skyrocketed, for what reason, they make products, they sell those products, has been this same way for years, AMD Ryzen/RX/Vega are supposedly selling extremely high volume desktop/professional/servers having scored numerous wins, yet their stock price has not went up nearly the same % in 2 years that Nv has who basically only makes 1 product which is graphics?

anyways :D
 
Burner27 said:
And not being able to use an 8700K in a Z170/Z270 board or using 6th or 7th gen CPUs in the Z370 boards? WTF Intel?
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based on what Intel said, the "new" coffeelake is unable to work on older boards because more pins, but that is not an excuse for not making backward compatible with older chips, they have less pins not more, if Intel really care about selling either or just because it has their name they make $, they could have and should have allowed new board old chip or new chip new board, or even give a fancy slotket like used to be used many years ago now, where a chip normally not compatible can be made as such via an adapter, this way here someone who loves their cpu can use on a new board to get access to maybe some new features etc is able to do so..

Intel $$$$$$$$$$ and stock price only thing matters obviously, customers, mehh they just shovel $$$$ into our bank account, obviously similar way MSFT thinks :D
 
dragonstongue said:
based on what Intel said, the "new" coffeelake is unable to work on older boards because more pins, but that is not an excuse for not making backward compatible with older chips, they have less pins not more, if Intel really care about selling either or just because it has their name they make $, they could have and should have allowed new board old chip or new chip new board, or even give a fancy slotket like used to be used many years ago now, where a chip normally not compatible can be made as such via an adapter, this way here someone who loves their cpu can use on a new board to get access to maybe some new features etc is able to do so..

Intel $$$$$$$$$$ and stock price only thing matters obviously, customers, mehh they just shovel $$$$ into our bank account, obviously similar way MSFT thinks :D
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It isn't more pins, the socket is still 1151. The pins themselves are configured differently. Power going on some and data going on others, which is why the Z170/Z270 would potentially fry an 8th gen CPU whislt the Z370 chipset could potentially fry a 6th or 7th gen CPU.
 
Burner27 said:
It isn't more pins, the socket is still 1151. The pins themselves are configured differently. Power going on some and data going on others, which is why the Z170/Z270 would potentially fry an 8th gen CPU whislt the Z370 chipset could potentially fry a 6th or 7th gen CPU.
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But it doesn't fry them. They've already popped KBL in Z370 and vice versa just to see what would happen. All they did was take some of the "reserved" pins and turn them into power/ground pins. Citing "increased power delivery" and "better OCing." :rolleyes:
 
kirbyrj said:
But it doesn't fry them. They've already popped KBL in Z370 and vice versa just to see what would happen. All they did was take some of the "reserved" pins and turn them into power/ground pins. Citing "increased power delivery" and "better OCing." :rolleyes:
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification on that.
 
Damn Dirty Ape said:
Well my wife's system is a 3 year old system and was going to surprise her this weekend with my system (i7-6700k) and build a new 8700k for myself. Its my only vice and pretty much always have permission to off to MC I go.

Normally they are the cheapest on processors so I grabbed the gigabyte board and went over to the glass case that had 3 8700k, yay!

$500.00 Isn't MSRP something like 379?


ffffuuuuuu.
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RCP is $359.
 
All they had were 8400's for $249... yeah not the typical discount I was hoping to see from MC. They will drop once they rip off the early adopters and have plenty of them sitting on the shelves.
 
The early adopters are getting ripped off by buying a rebranded Z270 chipset with "extra power pins" when Z390 is right around the corner, especially by the time 8700k's are readily available.
 
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Hahaha they dont even have 8700s at Atlanta Microxenters. We have 2 stores.
 
tangoseal said:
Hahaha they dont even have 8700s at Atlanta Microxenters. We have 2 stores.
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They don't have them anywhere.

qoh storeNumber storeName productId
--- ----------- --------- ---------
0 101 CA - Orange County/Tustin 486088
0 181 CO - Denver/Denver Tech Center 486088
0 065 GA - Greater Atlanta/Duluth 486088
0 041 GA - Greater Atlanta/Marietta 486088
0 151 IL - Chicagoland/Central 486088
0 025 IL - Chicagoland/Westmont 486088
0 191 KS - Kansas City/Overland Park 486088
0 121 MA - Boston/Cambridge 486088
0 085 MD - Beltway/Rockville 486088
0 125 MD - Baltimore/Towson 486088
0 055 MI - Detroit/Madison Heights 486088
0 045 MN - Twin Cities/St. Louis Park 486088
0 095 MO - St. Louis/Brentwood 486088
0 075 NJ - North Jersey / Paterson 486088
0 171 NY - Long Island/Westbury 486088
0 115 NY - Brooklyn/Gowanus Expy 486088
0 145 NY - Queens / Flushing 486088
0 105 NY - Westchester County/Yonkers 486088
0 141 OH - Central Ohio/Columbus 486088
0 051 OH - Northeast Ohio/Mayfield Heights 486088
0 071 OH - Cincinnati/Sharonville 486088
0 061 PA - Philadelphia/St. Davids 486088
0 155 TX - Houston 486088
0 131 TX - Dallas Metroplex/Richardson 486088
0 081 VA - Northern Virginia/Fairfax 486088
0 029 Micro Center Web Store 486088
 
Well thats an Intel dick jerk reaction. Not even knee jerk anymore. One could write lectures for college courses on how to do a perfect paper launch based on Intel.
 
kirbyrj said:
The early adopters are getting ripped off by buying a rebranded Z270 chipset with "extra power pins" when Z390 is right around the corner, especially by the time 8700k's are readily available.
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When is the expected launch date for the z390?
 
Checking around the intarwebz the chip is not backwards compatible (which is known already) and the boards are also not backwards compatible either. Just checked the egg for an ASRock Z370 Ex 4 board and sure enough it's printed right there in black & white:

  • * Not backward compatible with older generation of LGA 1151 CPUs *
So even if I wanted to get a new board, but use my 7700K chip, that's a bust . A shame because I like that dam board. :(
 
Looks like there were 2 in stock for a maximum of 10 minutes in California at 9:50PM PST on Friday. They close at 9PM. My script checks their inventory every 5 minutes.

10/07/2017 00:49:50> Stock: 2, Location: CA - Orange County/Tustin

Something funny is going on with their CPUs.
 
Microcenter is doing some odd stuff with the cpus on the site. Basically everything is now under the Recent Arrivals category, but they aren't really new. It's like they pulled the old listings and recreated new ones, but it's the same cpus. Reviews are all gone. I have no idea what they are doing.
 
I had a buddy pick up 4 x i7 4790k CPUs @ Microcenter in Brentwood for me for 1k.
I'm waiting for the dust to settle since I benefit from fast Quads for my apps.
Read about RAM prices jumping up from fans going to SSDs so I stocked up on DDR3 2 years ago.

Really want to get the i3 8350k CPUs in a few years when they're 100 bucks each.
I enjoy being behind the times so my drivers can catch up.

Great days for CPU lovers regardless of your needs.
 
I was waiting outside my store then looked on my phone and saw they were sold out and wanted $499. No thanks. Was able to back order on newegg before they sold out
 
Burner27 said:
And not being able to use an 8700K in a Z170/Z270 board or using 6th or 7th gen CPUs in the Z370 boards? WTF Intel?
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Nebulous said:
Yeah this is just wrong. Intel is still gonna make money if they just sold the chip or board. I don't see the issue if ppl want to do a cheap upgrade.
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This is less Intel's fault and more the mobo makers fault. The 8700k required additonal GND and VCC pins for the additional cores, and board manufacturers already started allocating extra pins for GND and VCC on Z270 but they were in the wrong configuration.
 
Emission said:
This is less Intel's fault and more the mobo makers fault. The 8700k required additonal GND and VCC pins for the additional cores, and board manufacturers already started allocating extra pins for GND and VCC on Z270 but they were in the wrong configuration.
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But doesn't Intel make the decision regarding the socket design when they develop the CPUs? Motherboard manufacturers would have to follow Intel's lead, no?
 
Emission said:
This is less Intel's fault and more the mobo makers fault. The 8700k required additonal GND and VCC pins for the additional cores, and board manufacturers already started allocating extra pins for GND and VCC on Z270 but they were in the wrong configuration.
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Well that kinda sucks ass.
 
For realz. I mean a bios update would have been awesome. Get me an 8700K, intel still gets paid and I get the fun of a new chip to extend my platform. But nooo, intel wants to fuck us out of that and force us 270 that's not even a year old into a whole new platform. That's seriously fucking lame.

I am seriously rethinking my next upgrade.
 
Just get a 6850k from them instead and get $100 off the x99 mobo. For the entry price gauge on the 8700k the x99 can be had for about the same, maybe less. 6 cores, can OC a bit, more lanes, but...older platform obviously
 
dmoney1980 said:
Just get a 6850k from them instead and get $100 off the x99 mobo. For the entry price gauge on the 8700k the x99 can be had for about the same, maybe less. 6 cores, can OC a bit, more lanes, but...older platform obviously
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X299 is still pretty new and lets not pretend that Z370 isn't just Z270 with some pins remapped.
 
chenw said:
well over here it's costing $420, which surprised me because the Intel processors are usually well matched to the US MSRP, this one seem to be more expensive than usual.

But what baffles me is that it goes neck in neck against Ryzen 7's when it comes to multicore performance, or am I reading the wrong benchmarks?

I'd still pick TR over the extremes more likely, but the 8700k vs Ryzen is now seemingly in favor of 8700k strongly.
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You read the benches correctly however there are obvious caveats to it, namely intel lists all core at 4.3ghz but it does boost to 4.7ghz in short periods distorting results, at 4.3ghz it scores what a stock 1700 does at 4.7ghz it scores what a 1700X does or 3.9ghz 1700 does. Clockspeed is more important than cores and that helps but if you are doing clock vs clock a ryzen 7 at 4.7ghz scores around 2400pts which is what luckynoob scored with a 6.8ghz 8700K. This is testament to how good AMD's SMT is, the limiting factor to ryzen is low clocks but that can be fixed, single thread can be improved and when it does it will stir up the pot in a good way for consumers.
 
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