Intel 8 generation Core i7

Shintai said:
Its the best CPU for gaming, not a surprise. Its a faster 7700K with 2 more cores.
Click to expand...

When Intel launched first ever Core i7, and killed overclocking with Core i 2600K, it was presumed that Intel doesn't care anymore about gaming. So I hope this CPU will be the game changer?
 
Shintai said:
Killed overclocking with the 2600K?

Intel have been the best gaming CPU for over a decade.
Click to expand...

The kind of overclocking margin that we happened to see with old Over clocking CPUs was reduced after Core i7. its pretty obvious that, when there is no competition from AMD, they will have the best gaming CPUs
 
maverick786us said:
The kind of overclocking margin that we happened to see with old Over clocking CPUs was reduced after Core i7. its pretty obvious that, when there is no competition from AMD, they will have the best gaming CPUs
Click to expand...

That's just plain wrong. Also one of the best overclockers was an i7.

What had you expected, 6Ghz OCs on air?

Also overclocking headroom as such got nothing to do with competition. If you even want to make any statement in relation to overclocking, it would be less competition=more overclocking headroom due to more relaxed binning.

On the other hand you now have 15W mobile quads reaching up to 4.2Ghz. And that's where the future and majority of sales, including for gaming is.
 
Last edited:
He meant after the legendary i7 2600K I'm sure, and yeah, clocks have barely improved have they?

Only now are we gunna actually start seeing 5ghz actually on air for the lucky ones. Finally.

Intel now know that frequency is their only real edge over AMD for us gamers. If Ryzen did 5ghz we'd be looking at an 8 core i5 right now!
 
spine said:
He meant after the legendary i7 2600K I'm sure, and yeah, clocks have barely improved have they?

Only now are we gunna actually start seeing 5ghz actually on air for the lucky ones. Finally.

Intel now know that frequency is their only real edge over AMD for us gamers. If Ryzen did 5ghz we'd be looking at an 8 core i5 right now!
Click to expand...

Intels advantage is IPC and clocks. Just as Zen chips have problems hitting 4Ghz while FX chips could hit 5Ghz.

Also if you only focus on the desktop you will lose, AMD or Intel. Because its all about servers and mobile. Gaming laptops already outsell desktop gaming PCs.

Adding cores and actually utilizing cores are 2 different things. I wonder who will get the blame 2-3 years from now.
 
I can't wait for some game benches. Are games taxing the 7700K now that the improvement of a 8700k will be a good upgrade? Or is it instead of a minimum of 200 fps and max of 500, you have 400 and 700?
I can not gauge well since I game at 4K so I am not even sure if my cpu is breaking a sweat.
 
Hagrid said:
I can't wait for some game benches. Are games taxing the 7700K now that the improvement of a 8700k will be a good upgrade? Or is it instead of a minimum of 200 fps and max of 500, you have 400 and 700?
I can not gauge well since I game at 4K so I am not even sure if my cpu is breaking a sweat.
Click to expand...

At 4K the only thing that matters is your video card.
 
Gideon said:
At 4K the only thing that matters is your video card.
Click to expand...
Yeah, kinda sucks. I have been itching to upgrade....
I was going to wait and see what Nvidia comes up with next and then decide. Wish AMD could pull a rabbit out of it's hat for their video cards......
 
Hagrid said:
Yeah, kinda sucks. I have been itching to upgrade....
I was going to wait and see what Nvidia comes up with next and then decide. Wish AMD could pull a rabbit out of it's hat for their video cards......
Click to expand...

I just hope this 8700K will overcome or reduce CPU-GPU bottleneck created by previous generations, when we are gaming at 4K with the latest high end GPUs. New games do utilize multiple cores and the extra power provided by 8700K
 
The 8700k will not add anything for 4k gaming. Your gpu is the bottleneck for that res. Pretty much any cpu over $200 will have the same performance
 
Nightfire said:
The 8700k will not add anything for 4k gaming. Your gpu is the bottleneck for that res. Pretty much any cpu over $200 will have the same performance
Click to expand...

That certainly depends on what you game and what GPU and settings you use.

What's next, didn't need the performance anyway?
 
This is assuming that not everyone has an unlimited budget smart guy. There are always exceptions, but the CPU hardly ever holds back performance at 4k. Since that is what OP mentioned, that is what I focused on.
 
From some of the charts, it looks like most/all modern cpu's(AMD or Intel) will play the game fine at 1080 or above. There might be a few exceptions but I would go with the best price/performance.
 
Nightfire said:
This is assuming that not everyone has an unlimited budget smart guy. There are always exceptions, but the CPU hardly ever holds back performance at 4k. Since that is what OP mentioned, that is what I focused on.
Click to expand...

So they buy a 8400 for 182$?
 
Silly Hagrid, everyone knows if your cpu doesn't support 150 fps at 1080p, it is totally garbage.
 
Bahn Yuki said:
I plan on doing emulation as well as 4K gaming, so having a very high IPC is ideal.
Click to expand...

All the Op mentioned was gaming thus my recommendation. Also emulation is pretty vague, some can be done by the video card these days. I am kind of confused why you quoted me at random as well.
 
So Intel is going to have 6 core chips with Hyperthreading, 6 core chips without Hyperthreading and one 4 core without Hyperthreading - with only a few that can be easily OC, all requiring a Z370 chipset? What kind of shit is that? My view is 8700K will be a compelling solution, the 8600K questionable but everything else falls apart from there. AMD sub $100 motherboards, all chips unlocked, all having SMT makes anything less than $200 for the CPU an AMD win, less than $300 unless a purely gaming rig AMD.

I guess we just have to see how the reviews go.
 
Gideon said:
All the Op mentioned was gaming thus my recommendation. Also emulation is pretty vague, some can be done by the video card these days. I am kind of confused why you quoted me at random as well.
Click to expand...

Going from Ryzen 1700 to hopefully CoreI7 8700k as the 1700 just didn't do so well in the emulators I ran at 1080p or 4K. My GPU is the 1080TI so I guess that could be a bottleneck.
 
Gideon said:
At 4K the only thing that matters is your video card.
Click to expand...


That's not exactly accurate. The CPU is still responsible for a large amount of work especially at highest detail levels. As such, minimum frame rates can suffer greatly which is evidenced by a the Xbox One X and PS4 PRO still struggling to get games beyond 30FPS in some cases despite having reasonably powerful video cards. While 4K is mostly a GPU bottleneck, as GPUs get faster, it won't be. People said the same thing about 1024x768, 1600x1200, 1080P, 1440P, and now 4K. In a year or so, GPUs will launch that will run games like BF1 at 4K ultra above 100FPS. If your CPU can't keep up, than you will get stutter, and frame rate issues.

This isn't an attack on Ryzen. It's a great CPU, and I can't wait to see what AMD comes out with for Ryzen 2.
 
Revenant_Knight said:
That's not exactly accurate. The CPU is still responsible for a large amount of work especially at highest detail levels. As such, minimum frame rates can suffer greatly which is evidenced by a the Xbox One X and PS4 PRO still struggling to get games beyond 30FPS in some cases despite having reasonably powerful video cards. While 4K is mostly a GPU bottleneck, as GPUs get faster, it won't be. People said the same thing about 1024x768, 1600x1200, 1080P, 1440P, and now 4K. In a year or so, GPUs will launch that will run games like BF1 at 4K ultra above 100FPS. If your CPU can't keep up, than you will get stutter, and frame rate issues.

This isn't an attack on Ryzen. It's a great CPU, and I can't wait to see what AMD comes out with for Ryzen 2.
Click to expand...

Well consoles are not exactly the same as a high end PC. But for now any modern cpu is getting it done for now as a GPU just is not able to push high fps at 4K. I personally think it will matter less as programs better utilize core counts as well since 8 core and 6 cores are becoming the norm. But I expect someone buying a 1080ti for 4K gaming to also buy the appropriate hardware with it and not say only get 4 gigs of ram or 8 gigs which will cause issues with games more so then the cpu. But my advice was for what is available at the time not the future or what may happen.
 
craigdt said:
Dude- your signature is a breath of fresh air, compared to the usual latest and greatest.
I had to stop and make sure I was reading it correctly.

It's similar to the pc I cobbled together for my wife.
Click to expand...

Yes my Rig is almost dead, I haven't touched it for years. I have threw almost around 8-10K for addiction of Clash of Kings. That addiction is still alive. But in less than 3 months I am going to stop and go back to PC gaming
 
maverick786us said:
Yes my Rig is almost dead, I haven't touched it for years. I have threw almost around 8-10K for addiction of Clash of Kings. That addiction is still alive. But in less than 3 months I am going to stop and go back to PC gaming
Click to expand...

Wat? Is that a mobile game?

Maybe I'll try it if it's that good...
 
craigdt said:
Wat? Is that a mobile game?

Maybe I'll try it if it's that good...
Click to expand...

Yes it is an online mobile game. I play it in my iPad. if you are playing, play COK west version. Its a Chinese game developed by Elixer. In classic version you will be tempted to throw $ to grow faster and will fall in trap like me. If you don't throw $ the Chinese who get packs at half the price or black market will not let you live. However in COK west chinese cannot play, so you can take you time and grow your castle there.

When it comes to spending $, spending like 100$ a month is fine depending on what item you purchase. But it is like an addiction, more you spend, more the game will force you to spend by tempting you with various new features. I know heavy spenders who have spend 50,000 to 200,000$ on this game. At the end when you get bored with the game and feel like selling your account, you will not get even 10% of return.

No doubt it is a good game.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top