Proposed TR build, watercooling questions

I don't mind the hijack. It's all useful info.

Unfortunately, I got hit with a lot of unexpected bills this month, so the build is still on hold. I may get the motherboard and water block so I can start laying out my hard lines, then maybe the GPU next month.
 
meganuke said:
I don't mind the hijack. It's all useful info.

Unfortunately, I got hit with a lot of unexpected bills this month, so the build is still on hold. I may get the motherboard and water block so I can start laying out my hard lines, then maybe the GPU next month.
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Sorry to read that man, good luck on recovering and getting your build moving again.
 
Thanks. I was involved in a hit & run in my RV, and in order to get the repairs started faster, I have to pay for them out of pocket. Otherwise, I have to wait for the insurance company to approve things before parts are even ordered. Since a side window was smashed, leaving a gaping hole in my RV, and I live in a place that gets rain pretty frequently, I elected to have it fixed sooner.

But any donations in the form of Amazon or Newegg gift cards will be gladly accepted! ;-)
 
thesmokingman said:
Sunbeam Rheosmart 6.

I made a thread so as to stop hijacking this thread.
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Great! Thanks. Yeah this Alert system on the [H] kinda promotes thread-jacking. Sorry meganuke !

meganuke said:
Thanks. I was involved in a hit & run in my RV, and in order to get the repairs started faster, I have to pay for them out of pocket. Otherwise, I have to wait for the insurance company to approve things before parts are even ordered. Since a side window was smashed, leaving a gaping hole in my RV, and I live in a place that gets rain pretty frequently, I elected to have it fixed sooner.

But any donations in the form of Amazon or Newegg gift cards will be gladly accepted! ;-)
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Sorry to hear that man. Hit-and-runs are among the lowest of scum. Hope everything gets back to normal sooner rather than later! Good luck. Oh, and keep us posted. :D
 
tangoseal said:
2. I have no idea if GPU passthrough works or not because I havent tried and not many are going to try this. VMs are cool but who the F passes through a GPU anyways since you can only pass it to literally ONE vm.
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With that much power you can ideally build multiple VMs and assign GPUs to them, one for gaming, htpc, Linux workstation, OS X... opportunities are endless. But if it cannot pass through a GPU I wonder if that is all PCIe devices or just a few.
 
I ordered two 10 TB drives and the 32 GB DDR4 (PC3200, CL14!) for my build. I had a 10% code at newegg that worked on the G.Skill memory, so I saved about $40 there. The drives were on sale, too. Hopefully they'll put the 1950X and the motherboard on sale soon! I think this will be an October/November build. Unfortunately, I'm still paying for all the RV repairs and some other unexpected bills, so I have to spread this out longer than I'd like.
 
Nice update. I ran into some issues on my build which after doing a re-install of the CPU and waterblock using a torque wrench they all went away. Specifically, I was getting the 32gb present but 8GB hardware reserved bug seen on almost every X399 mobo manufacturer's forum. The issue from my experience is be careful when tightening down the waterblock on these CPU's. I went to 60in/lbs and it's been rock solid since.
 
Geno750 said:
Nice update. I ran into some issues on my build which after doing a re-install of the CPU and waterblock using a torque wrench they all went away. Specifically, I was getting the 32gb present but 8GB hardware reserved bug seen on almost every X399 mobo manufacturer's forum. The issue from my experience is be careful when tightening down the waterblock on these CPU's. I went to 60in/lbs and it's been rock solid since.
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What block did you use? One w/o springs I take it? With a spring loaded mount, you don't have to worry about force since its locked into the spring choice for you.
 
thesmokingman said:
What block did you use? One w/o springs I take it? With a spring loaded mount, you don't have to worry about force since its locked into the spring choice for you.
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Kinda true, just don't bottom out the springs till all four are started and it'll be okay. I went with a Bykski block, and it's simple mount benefits greatly from accurate torque. For the price and performance it made sense. Buying from the USA website got me one two days after I ordered.
 
Geno750 said:
For the price and performance it made sense. Buying from the USA website got me one two days after I ordered.
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That's a massive block with a very large fin area so I bet it does an excellent job. That said TR is actually quite easy to cool in a custom loop.
 
thesmokingman said:
That's a massive block with a very large fin area so I bet it does an excellent job. That said TR is actually quite easy to cool in a custom loop.
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I'd expect so, it's doing well in my bullshit loop. 30C idle and 69C loads now that the ambient temp in my house has gone down a bit. This is at 4Ghz.
 
Geno750 said:
I'd expect so, it's doing well in my bullshit loop. 30C idle and 69C loads now that the ambient temp in my house has gone down a bit. This is at 4Ghz.
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69c at load suggests you might be slightly radiator area limited, though 69c is quite livable.
 
thesmokingman said:
69c at load suggests you might be slightly radiator area limited, though 69c is quite livable.
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Totally. I'm using a H320X2 with a Bykski block. I imagine I'm at the bare minimum of what one wants for water cooling one of these. Problem is I'm out of case. I might add a 140mm rad but as you said, 69C is quite livable. I also like how tidy everything is at the moment.

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Is that the MSI board? I really like the layout of the Carbon the best out of all the TR boards. The dual flat usb 3 port setup is the best by far and you still get 8 sata ports.
 
Yeah it's the MSI board. The only annoying thing about it's layout is the aux power for the pci slots. Fortunately I have a bunch of 8 pin to 6 pin PCI-E adapters to make the install cleaner.
 
Honestly, I picked that number based on the size of the bolts, and that number should be more than enough to hold the plate down firmly. The directions for the Bykski block are non existent.
 
I know it's been a little while, but I have an update! Got the RV back, all fixed up. Finally got reimbursed for everything I shelled out for out of pocket. Last night, Newegg had the Gigabyte x399 board and the Threadripper 1950X on sale for a price I couldn't say no to, so I ordered it! It was about $230 off! I also ordered the XSPC water block from Amazon ($30 less than Newegg). Now I'm just waiting for a watercooled 1080 Ti video card to go on sale... :)
 
meganuke said:
I know it's been a little while, but I have an update! Got the RV back, all fixed up. Finally got reimbursed for everything I shelled out for out of pocket. Last night, Newegg had the Gigabyte x399 board and the Threadripper 1950X on sale for a price I couldn't say no to, so I ordered it! It was about $230 off! I also ordered the XSPC water block from Amazon ($30 less than Newegg). Now I'm just waiting for a watercooled 1080 Ti video card to go on sale... :)
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Good for you! Glad everything worked out with the RV. Looking forward to seeing how your new build goes.
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Make sure to post pics when you get it up and running!
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Yeah, what he said!
 
Thanks RedWagnum. I installed the motherboard on the Core x9 tray, installed the G.Skill Flare X RAM, put in the TR cpu and mounted the xspc waterblock. I still have a lot to figure out with my line routes, but I think I can get close even without the GPU. It'll be my first hard line build, so I'm going to take my time and make sure it's done right.

Quick question for those that have used the XSPC fittings. I see two o-rings inside, but they also ship with a third loose o-ring. Is this supposed to go inside the collar, over the tube? Or is it just a spare?
 
I haven't done a hard line build so I can't help you there. But since you are using the Core X9 and I just finished my build in the Core X2 I would like to share some of my findings since the cases are so similar.

The grill or perforation on the top and side panels is much more restrictive than I thought it would be. I'm using Vardar F4 (2200RPM) fans mounted to the side bracket pulling air through a BI Nemesis 360 GTX and at 1800RPM I can just barely feel air passing through the side panel. This is without the "filter" in place which would restrict air flow even more. Also, the radiator bracket has a reinforcement ridge running through where the screw holes are which raises the holes about 1.5mm to 2mm. If it had been flat I could have used the screws that were shipped with the radiator but because of the ridge I had to buy new screws that were a few mm longer. If the ridge had been slightly wider and pointed the other way (towards the radiator instead of the fans) the original screws would have fit just fine.

Mounted a Pioneer Blu-Ray drive in the 5.25" bay and no matter how I mounted it, it was about 1/8" to 3/16" recessed relative to the front panel. Had to remove the drive bay, remove the tool-less latch, drill new holes and mount the drive with screws. In addition, the drive bays attach to the inside of the chassis via thumbscrews which are threaded through both the chassis and the drive bay. I guess so you could screw the drive bay on from the front or the back? I dunno... The weight of the drive makes the drive bay sag in the back enough to touch the bay below so I had to put some rubber strips on it to prevent it from rattling against it.

One of the stupidest things I've ever seen. The front panel has a removable filter that covers the bottom portion of the front. If you look closely you'll see that there is a similar filter surrounding the 5.25" bays. Thing is, that filter is sandwiched between the front panel and the outer mesh so you would have to remove the outer mesh to clean that filter. Granted there is no fan to push or pull air directly through that filter but duh man, make it removable or leave it out. And there is a foam filter in the drive bay covers that is trapped also.

The cable pass thru holes on the MB tray would be more functional if they were moved about 1/2" away from the motherboard or made about 1/2" wider.

Finally note to Thermaltake: Tap your holes AFTER the case has been painted! Do NOT tap the holes and install thumbscrews THEN paint the case. That makes the thumbscrews impossible to remove with thumbs!

Don't get me wrong - I DO like the case. Fit and finish is good, the modularity is nice, and the overall design is good. It just needs a few tweaks to make it a really great case. I don't know if any of these "issues" appear in your case or if they will bother you - I just thought I would pass along what I found.
 
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Thanks for the tips, RedWagnum. I actually have been using the case for a while with my ancient core i7 920 (yes, first generation Nehalem!). I haven't run into the same issues, though. I run the radiator fans on the inside of the case in a push configuration. The PSU fan, the large front fan and a case fan in the rear are used for intake and run at higher speeds than the 8 fans I use on the radiators. Even with a mild OC, temps rarely exceeded 57C at full load and the whole set up was virtually silent.

The 5.25" bay lined up fine with my blu-ray burner, but I did have to lower it to the second bay for clearance with the two 480mm radiators.

I haven't noticed any problems with removing and cleaning the filters on the x9. There is one on the bottom of the case, which I thought was weird, since it doesn't cover the entire bottom. If you're not going to filter all possible inlets, why bother with any of them? I don't have the foam filter on my drive bays. I actually removed them and replaced them with rosewill ones that I think tangoseal recommended. It turns them sideways for easier access to the connectors. The stock setup is almost impossible to use.

I think the x2 is for mATX and the x9 will support eATX, so I've got no complaints about the cable pass through holes. They're plenty big and spaced right where I want them.

Just a few days until my birthday, and all I've given people for ideas are Newegg gift cards. So I'll probably order the GPU early next week. I might start bending some lines today.
 
Two Samsung 960 Pro drives ordered! I also preordered some of the new Primochill Vue coolant. I will probably order the video card next week and start building!
 
GPU arrived, I got almost all of my lines plumbed. I was one fitting short, so that's been ordered and should be here by Friday or Saturday. Still waiting for the Primochill Vue coolant to arrive as well, but I can at least flush the system and test it for leaks.
 
I gotta admit that case looks sick for those who need storage space or count hard drives in their sleep.
 
Coolant is here, the last fittings arrived and I'm finally back home to work on this beast! I have one hole to drill in the case for the fill port and that will be my last line to run. I hope to leak test it today and have it booting tonight or tomorrow!
 
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