DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Anyone got any good ryzen ram recommendation?. I'm looking for a good 32gb (2x16) kit .
What board are you using / will be using? What ram speed are you planning to get? It's better to check the motherboard's memory QVL (qualified vendor's list) for the supported ram.
 
Anyone got any good ryzen ram recommendation?. I'm looking for a good 32gb (2x16) kit .
32gb at higher frequency can be difficult. Samsung B-die ram is the best, I'd say the safest bet is the g-skill flare-x ram as it is B-Die and designed for Ryzen. Definitely check the QVL list too, but note that they don't always achieve the rated speed of the ram with on the QVL list, for example 3200mhz ram may be on the QVL list but they may only have achieved 2999 with it. I would also try googling to see how people have got on with the ram too on whichever motherboard you buy. That said the speed that people achieve can vary depending on your processor and the ram itself.
 
Yea i'm using the Asrock x370 mini itx board. 3200 will only hit 2999 on that board. Right now i got it loaded with some super cheap samsung ram i took from a broken HP.
 
Is it only the GSkill flare series that has samsung B die or does their Trident series also use B die?
Some, if not all trident z do, here is a good list. Note that I use 3200 Corsair LPX and have them at 3200 on my biostar board and they are Hynix. However, I have 16gb, 32gb is a lot harder by all reports so the flare X is the safest bet. I think they have slightly different timings than the trident z. For example I had to adjust the tRC value of my ram to 60 up from its rated 54 to gain stability at 3200, all the rest of the timings are as rated. It's possible that the flare X have some of those settings changed to have better compatability with the Ryzen platform but I don't know for sure.
 
Asus will release AM4 Mitx, unless the past can not predict the future. Mitx is close to a laptop with huge expansion possibility, and we always see a lot of work on the motherboards compared to the almost cookie-cutter Micro-ATX boards.

You want all your parts to be bought so that the return periods overlap. Otherwise, when you are able to test your parts together you may find broken/incorrect items and be unable to return the bad parts.


This is really not the appropriate place to solicit upgrade advice, but I understand that you want your upgrade to be designed to fit into the Dancases A4-SFX. It is never good to buy part of a collection that is meant to work as a system separately: it limits your eventual flexibility.

If you have a quad-thread processor from Sandy Bridge (2011+) and 8+ GB of system memory, then you should stay put on your core platform. It sounds like the combination of the Node 304 and the PSU are driving you crazy. I think you should buy a new power supply unit, as the A4-SFX will require an SFX power supply and you have an ATX power supply.

I would suggest you buy the Corsair SF600, as it will leave you with more space for cable management then alternatives. Be sure that you buy SFX power supplies and stay away from SFX-L power supplies. If you had trouble with cable management in the Node 304, you will need every advantage you can get in the A4-SFX.

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/06/22/corsair_sf600_600w_sfx_power_supply_review/

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=477

You can use an SFX power supply in the Node 304 by using an ATX-to-SFX adapter plate. Both SIlverstone and Corsair make adapter plates.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01BYB33J8

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/sfx-to-atx-psu-adapter-bracket

I expect that you could also be complaining because the never-quality and now-old case fans are loud. You should replace them all with their Noctua equivalents. You will need a PWM fan-plug splitter. I included fan grills because they keep cables out of fans, but you might not want them because they cause airflow noise and cost money. One 92 mm fan could be moved into the A4-SFX.

Finally, a PCPartPicker list with the items you need to ease your short-term case pains!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M3wJLD
Yes im trying to find parts working for dan case v2

I have a great noctua tower cooler, was able to fit a R9 295X2 with watercooler inside so it's quiet but my computer turns off itself randomly (no heating issue, no idea why) so I actually need to start looking. The USB controller doesn't support the oculus either so :/
My hate for the Node is it's for an ATX PSU and full length gpu's but it's not possible to use them together I had to rip out the PSU bracket pressing it against the other end and the cables still press against the GPU (bought the shortest atx i could find) Also the headers for power and so on get's ripped out and is difficult to find everytime i need to go in and check, the chassi is so big but still tiny on the inside which doesn't make sence. Worst case ever
I will read about the Asus AM4 ITX , and regular SFX power supplies.

Welcome!

I will put this in a spoiler to keep the thread smaller. (I would appreciate it if everybody would do this with pictures so I don't have to scroll like an idiot, thanks)

The biggest difference between the 1700, 1700x and 1800x is the stock frequency. If you want to overclock it doesn't really matter. If you just want 'the best' get the 1800x, if you want the best performance at a good price get the 1700 and OC it.

You will need a 600W PSU for sure with the Vega 64 (like the Corsair SF600) and you cannot use your current ATX form factor PSU. You need to buy an SFX or SFX-L PSU (I recommend SFX because SFX-L won't leave you any space).

As far as I have seen the Vega 64 needs power like crazy but can manage the temperature somewhat (in a normal case). You will probably have to use one of these foam mods or even more things (like seperating the sidepanel with a standoff) to keep the temperature down.

As for motherboards, I personally use the Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac for my custom NAS with an R3 and it works fine. Don't know how it would do with an OCed R7 so I would read some reviews.

I would buy the 960 evo instead of the pro. The difference is just too small if for the price increase if you ask me.

Do the R7s come with a stock cooler? If one is included and it is small enough to fit it is fine to use it without OC but not if you want to OC. I would recommend the Noctua NH-L9a, it isn't too expensive and it performs quite well.
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lappenlappen I think that you should consider buying the faster chips and not over-clocking. It is far more efficient way of getting higher gaming performance. 2 threads @ 4.00 and the rest at a lower frequency almost always matches a 4ghz all core overclock for gaming in all the benchmarks I have seen and uses way less power.

P.S. based on my stock 1700 temps I think an L9a will cool a stock 1800x no bother in the Dan A4

Ty for the tips will check the 960 EVO and probably get an 1800x, (don't want to OC) will read a littlebit about that PSU
 
hmm ordered a v2+glass from that last kickstarter and i'm sorta stuck....
The card I wanna use is a gigabyte xtreme 970
GV-N970XTREME-4GD

and I can't seem to find (via search) a definitive yes on whether or not it'll fit :/
gigabtyte's websites states that its H=42 L=279 W=121 mm

Dan case says it'll fit:
Height: 144 mm

Width:
Without backplate: 40 mm
Including backplate: 45 mm

Length
Complete card incl. bracket: 306 mm
Without bracket: 295 mm

So seems like Width and length should be perfectly fine.

But the Thickness of the card seems to worry me :/
at 42mm it exceeds the without backplate limit. but the card has a backplate, so it falls under the 45mm limit?

I'm just hoping the card will fit and i can install the side panel of the case just fine.

I guess the main issue is I don't have the xtreme 970 on hand. and i won't have the dan case for a few more months...


So i was just wondering if any1 has confirmed wether or not it fits? (i presume if it fits a v1 it'll fit a v2)

Thanks xD
 
hmm ordered a v2+glass from that last kickstarter and i'm sorta stuck....
The card I wanna use is a gigabyte xtreme 970
GV-N970XTREME-4GD

and I can't seem to find (via search) a definitive yes on whether or not it'll fit :/
gigabtyte's websites states that its H=42 L=279 W=121 mm

Dan case says it'll fit:
Height: 144 mm

Width:
Without backplate: 40 mm
Including backplate: 45 mm

Length
Complete card incl. bracket: 306 mm
Without bracket: 295 mm

So seems like Width and length should be perfectly fine.

But the Thickness of the card seems to worry me :/
at 42mm it exceeds the without backplate limit. but the card has a backplate, so it falls under the 45mm limit?

I'm just hoping the card will fit and i can install the side panel of the case just fine.

I guess the main issue is I don't have the xtreme 970 on hand. and i won't have the dan case for a few more months...


So i was just wondering if any1 has confirmed wether or not it fits? (i presume if it fits a v1 it'll fit a v2)

Thanks xD
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Hmm thanks for the quick reply!
But that does seems like a normal windforce gtx 970, not the xtreme gtx 970 (RGB Fans)
The GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD (windforce gtx 970 triple fan) Lacks the RGB Led Halo fans of the xtreme, and measures H=39 L=299 W=114 mm (3mm less for thickness)

Thanks for the picture Though (makes me excited for my future build)

edit: I think I found someone with the card. Gonna ask for a picture side view picture of the card. and maybe some caliper measurements. maybe this info will help
 
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I have TridentZ 3200CL16 in Biostar x370GTN, but can hit only 2993 at CL14

It seems like ram prices are going up right now so im going to stick with the shody Samsung ram i have for a bit. I thin kthis Trident one is the one ill eventually get. That or corsair LPX
 
Anyone got any good ryzen ram recommendation?. I'm looking for a good 32gb (2x16) kit .

Currently have Team T-Force XTREEM 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3733 in my Sentry case for 169.99 USD now 196.99 USD, jeez those prices! Currently have them at 3200 MHz with tight timings as I didn't want to go higher than 3200 MHz with loose timings.

CPU-Z:
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Edit: My mobo is the ASRock AB350itx and CPU is R7 1700X
 
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I have TridentZ 3200CL16 in Biostar x370GTN, but can hit only 2993 at CL14
So your running cl16 ram at cl14? 2993 seems pretty good when you have the cas latency so much lower than rated.

Ram prices are crazy at the moment, I'm sure the ram producers are loving it. I really would have expected 150 euro good quality 32gb kits to be common now, I don't need 32gb so not to worry ;)
 
Greetings, since i see a GPU TDP discussion running:

I have currently an ASUS ROG STRIX 1070 OC for my Dan A4 which even in idle can't keep below 50°C. Every few minutes the fans spin up for a short time. The only way to keep the on/off noise away is the MSI Afterburner which gives me a minimum of 600rpm. Without the MSI Afterburner sometimes the 1st fan even ramps up to 3000rpm for a short time, no idea why. :(

Does somebody here got a graphiccard with the power of a GTX 1070 which keeps below 50°C on idle? "Silent" and small is a must for me, but atm i'm not sure if the Dan A4 case can really meet both requirenments.
 
Greetings, since i see a GPU TDP discussion running:

I have currently an ASUS ROG STRIX 1070 OC for my Dan A4 which even in idle can't keep below 50°C. Every few minutes the fans spin up for a short time. The only way to keep the on/off noise away is the MSI Afterburner which gives me a minimum of 600rpm. Without the MSI Afterburner sometimes the 1st fan even ramps up to 3000rpm for a short time, no idea why. :(

Does somebody here got a graphiccard with the power of a GTX 1070 which keeps below 50°C on idle? "Silent" and small is a must for me, but atm i'm not sure if the Dan A4 case can really meet both requirenments.

You might want to check your GPU's core and memory clock in GPU-Z to see if it's really at idle. There are some situations whereby the GPU doesn't go to idle no matter what - some 144hz monitors, more than 2 non-identical monitors connected to the GPU etc.
 
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Greetings, since i see a GPU TDP discussion running:

I have currently an ASUS ROG STRIX 1070 OC for my Dan A4 which even in idle can't keep below 50°C. Every few minutes the fans spin up for a short time. The only way to keep the on/off noise away is the MSI Afterburner which gives me a minimum of 600rpm. Without the MSI Afterburner sometimes the 1st fan even ramps up to 3000rpm for a short time, no idea why. :(

Does somebody here got a graphiccard with the power of a GTX 1070 which keeps below 50°C on idle? "Silent" and small is a must for me, but atm i'm not sure if the Dan A4 case can really meet both requirenments.

My Asus Strix GTX 1070 8G, Not the OC O8G Edition like you, never runs above 40°C in Idle.
Also the fans never Spinup.

Maybe you can test the different Modes in "Asus GPU Tweak": OC, Gaming or Silent.
 
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I figure it would take them a long time considering how behind they were on the Strix release. I like asus for MB so I cant wait to see the price and goodies this has with them. Probably will be going in my dan case!
 
Hmmmmmm now rather than waiting for Icelake I might go with a Ryzen build with the Dan case. I hate this whole idea of Intel confusing it's customers all year long with iced coffee lol.
lol

but yeah, by Dec/Jan we will have a whole new crop of choices - and maybe GDDR6 GPUs
 
lol

but yeah, by Dec/Jan we will have a whole new crop of choices - and maybe GDDR6 GPUs
There shouldn't be anything before Christmas according to nvidias CEO, as per this article. Not that I trust him even slightly, but Pascal is a very cost effective gpu range for Nvidia considering the performance they deliver per mm². From a consumer perspective they are competitive on price and performance with AMDs GPUs and a good lot better on power consumption.

I wonder whether we will see an architectural improvement on 16nm or a jump to a new node first. I know big volta is on a new node but that chip is a no costs barred solution for customers who have no price constraints.
 
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The new Mini 1080 GTX that Gigabyte recently announced looks pretty cool - it's only 16.9cm in length.

Would it be possible to fit a full-sized 3.5" HDD by creating a custom mod/bracket in the DAN A4-SFX next to the Gigabyte Mini 1080 GTX as there would be some room left to the right of the GPU?
 
The new Mini 1080 GTX that Gigabyte recently announced looks pretty cool - it's only 16.9cm in length.

Would it be possible to fit a full-sized 3.5" HDD by creating a custom mod/bracket in the DAN A4-SFX next to the Gigabyte Mini 1080 GTX as there would be some room left to the right of the GPU?

There are guys who managed to squeeze a radiator in there even so I guess the answer is yes if you are determined enough
 
Update to the M.2 Heat Problem:

For remember, i have a Samsung 960 Pro M.2 in the front Port under the Heatsink of the Asus Strix Z270i.

The CPU exhaust air heat up the M.2 up to maximum 76°C in Gaming. Most time 65-73°C at use.

So i tested the M.2 rear Port. Very disappointing...
The Samsung heat up to maxmimum 84°C.
Also permanent above 75°C. Thermal Throttling all time at Gaming.

Now the M.2 is back in the front Port, not really good, but better. Searching for a better Heatsink.

Other Topic:
I get my new Cable from CableMod and i think its a nice result. Picture Below.
Lengths: ATX 150mm, EPS 300mm and PCIe 350mm.
 

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Update to the M.2 Heat Problem:

For remember, i have a Samsung 960 Pro M.2 in the front Port under the Heatsink of the Asus Strix Z270i.

The CPU exhaust air heat up the M.2 up to maximum 76°C in Gaming. Most time 65-73°C at use.

So i tested the M.2 rear Port. Very disappointing...
The Samsung heat up to maxmimum 84°C.
Also permanent above 75°C. Thermal Throttling all time at Gaming.

Now the M.2 is back in the front Port, not really good, but better. Searching for a better Heatsink.

Other Topic:
I get my new Cable from CableMod and i think its a nice result. Picture Below.
Lengths: ATX 150mm, EPS 300mm and PCIe 350mm.
I have the same problem, i see my m2 ssd most time 85-88 while gaming. Now i put the ssd in the back and I put a rubber panel between the gpu and motherboard. Now I have max peak of 66° while gaming. more than 20° dif.
If you need pics, say me.
 
Yeah please. Very interesting concept. Would be nice to see it. Thanks.
 
I was inspired by Pr0Pain and his modification of his Gigabyte GTX 1080 Ti OC 11G. I have the same card and have noticed temps were a bit higher than I'd like. (80+ C while gaming). While I couldn't do exactly what he did and replace the stock shroud with Noctua fans, I did decide to modify the existing shroud to allow better airflow. I cut the part of the shroud that wraps around the top and bottom off, as shown by the red outlines here:
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To get the shroud off to cut it, I had to remove the heatsink from the PCB. When I did this, I was disappointed to find crap thermal paste on the GPU die. It was full of air pockets!! Needless to say, I replaced it.

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I'm not sure if the thermal paste replacement or the mod I did to the shroud contributed more, but now when gaming the card sits around 70-75 C.
 
I have the same problem, i see my m2 ssd most time 85-88 while gaming. Now i put the ssd in the back and I put a rubber panel between the gpu and motherboard. Now I have max peak of 66° while gaming. more than 20° dif.
If you need pics, say me.
What GPU do you have? Did you put the rubber divider on the GPU side or CPU side of the central divider? Thanks :)
 
Actually, I think you did worse. The air now can useless escape through new cuts instead of blowing through the radiator.

Sorry, but I'm going to be a little demeaning in response.

It's basic physics. The fins on the heatsink are oriented in a vertical position. This means, that the air can only flow up or down. It cannot flow left or right because it's blocked by the fins. Look closely at this image:
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The shroud wrapped around the top and bottom of the heatsink, obstructing this airflow, especially on the bottom, like this:
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By cutting off this part of the shroud, there is now completely unobstructed airflow through the fins.

#SorryNotSorry
 
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hi everyone. I took part in de Kickstarter for the v2 and been busy trying to match the best components for the case (within my budget of course).
So I have 2 questions and would like to ask your opinion about:
I'm going with:
- Ryzen 1700X
- Biostar Racing X370GTN
- Noctua NH-L9a
- Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16
- 2 TB Samsung 840 SSD
- and at some point I'd like to add another 5 TB 2,5 drive to it.

Now my questions are regarding the PSU and the GPU.

PSU
Initially, I was going for the Corsair SF600, then I saw that the "be quiet! SFX L Power 600W" is out and with a larger fan, I was hoping it would be a tad quieter and also cooler.... what is your opinion? is this a wise choice? (especially since it's bigger)

GPU:
I have my eyes on either of the following two: "KFA2 GeForce GTX 1070 EXOC 8GB" or the "Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 Mini" as I've heard that these two have a very well cooling solution. again, what is your opinion or recommendation regarding this (a well cooled 1070 gpu)?

Any tips and recommendations would be much appreciated.
 
Hmmmm go with Zotac or better yet an Asus or Evga. I might suggest go wait for Asus am4 mitx. Ive read that they will release an x370i soon.
 
Bit late to the party but I finally got a Dan case last week. The 1080 Ti is fine, 74 degrees at 2000 rpm at 2ghz.

Cpu is the problem though. 7700k is hitting mid 80's during gaming. Noctua n9i made the cpu throttle past 90. Currently using the cryorig c7 with the noctua fan on top.

How did other people cool a 7700k in this case? Saw a 92mm aio but they are out of stock at the moment.

The cpu is delidded with liquid ultra and at 4.5ghz.
 

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