RX Vega Owners Thread

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I'm using the high power AIO bios and I have mine set to 1732 as the highest P state. I can't go any higher. And I have the Ram set to 1105.

JustReason - Thanks for the voltage tip. I didn't think about turning off auto. I'll see if it makes any difference.
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OH CRAP!!! now we wont be close... :(
 
Just getting a feel for the card on settings using Firestrike Ultra (GPU limiting). Lowest score is stock settings, second is with HBM2 at 1045 and manual voltage but no changes to the voltage, highest is +15% Power, HBM2 at 1045 and manual voltage (no change in values). Power tune brought up the clock speed significantly, max power from the wall I caught was 497w but most of the time it was around 480w with the +15% power. I don't want to go above 550w from the wall even though the power supply 600w output means an input of 600w/.9 = 667w from the wall. Still it would not take much to push up the power high. Looks like the clock speeds was limited by the power settings.

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Just getting for a feel for the card on settings using Firestrike Ultra (GPU limiting). Lowest score is stock settings, second is with HBM2 at 1045 and manual voltage but no changes to the voltage, highest is +15% Power, HBM2 at 1045 and manual voltage (no change in values). Power tune brought up the clock speed significantly, max power from the wall I caught was 497w but most of the time it was around 480w with the +15% power. I don't want to go above 550w from the wall even though the power supply 600w output means an input of 600w/.9 = 667w from the wall. Still it would not take much to push up the power high. Looks like the clock speeds was limited by the power settings.

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Yes. and looking at your first test frames it definitely is limiting. That is what happened when I left voltage to auto, I would only hit State6 and not go into state7, the other tests would- odd I know. Actually looking at it your first test isn't that bad actually compared to mine.

look at my next post.
 
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Ok so far this is some terribly difficult shit to figure out. Nothing about this is linear, seriously all over the map (I have a theory I will give later). Keeping stock clocks on core and lower voltage with memory set to 1100 and never changing the voltage, I have found lowering the voltage will help raise clocks a tad till you hit that minimum and the scores tank, for me this was 1168mV good and 1165mV tanking. Now this is for 1750core. So then I raised the voltage to 1180mV and raised the core to 1772 and the above score was what resulted with way higher clocks throughout. Just looking at averages the best with 1750 was 85.6fps or so, at 1772 it is as above 87.14fps.

Odd part is raising the clock ensures higher clocks closer to your setting. When I set the clock, rather at stock, 1750 gets at best 1720 clocks during tests. With 1772 it gets to 1754 or so, this with 1180mV.

And another odd thing is when an OC fails screen goes black and computer just doesn't respond. So playing with OCs is a PITA when your whole PC is in a top loaded cabinet. So I experiment a little each day.

So as far as my theory and I think Ontariotl kind of proves it, VRM temps on these must be the bigger factor. I feel that is why lower voltages make such a huge impact on max seen clocks. I want to redo the thermal interfaces on my Vega64 but would rather wait till I am sure a RMA will not be necessary.
 
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Ok so far this is some terribly difficult shit to figure out. Nothing about this is linear, seriously all over the map (I have a theory I will give later). Keeping stock clocks on core and lower voltage with memory set to 1100 and never changing the voltage, I have found lowering the voltage will help raise clocks a tad till you hit that minimum and the scores tank, for me this was 1168mV good and 1165mV tanking. Now this is for 1750core. So then I raised the voltage to 1180mV and raised the core to 1772 and the above score was what resulted with way higher clocks throughout. Just looking at averages the best with 1750 was 85.6fps or so, at 1772 it is as above 87.14fps.

Odd part is raising the clock ensures higher clocks closer to your setting. When I set the clock, rather at stock, 1750 gets at best 1720 clocks during tests. With 1772 it gets to 1754 or so, this with 1180mV.

And another odd thing is when an OC fails screen goes black and computer just doesn't respond. So playing with OCs is a PITA when your whole PC is in a top loaded cabinet. So I experiment a little each day.

So as far as my theory and I think Ontariotl kind of proves it, VRM temps on these must be the bigger factor. I feel that is why lower voltages make such a huge impact on max seen clocks. I want to redo the thermal interfaces on my Vega64 but would rather wait till I am sure a RMA will not be necessary.
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One thing I noticed while test mining with the Vega 64 LC version is the card metal case gets super hot! So I put a fan on top flowing on the card case. Actually it has two, one on the bottom and now one on top. For it to get that hot, even being water cooled, means a lot of heat is inside of the card heating it up. So I do believe you are right.
 
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One thing I noticed while test mining with the Vega 64 LC version is the card metal case gets super hot! So I put a fan on top flowing on the card case. Actually it has two, one on the bottom and now one on top. For it to get that hot, even being water cooled, means a lot of heat is inside of the card heating it up. So I do believe you are right.
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I have one on top and plan to add a few more. Ran out when I put both our PCs together. I use an old crap HP PSU from a Compac 350W to run most all fans except 3, one for CPU and 2 of the 4 fans on my Corsair 240mm H110IGTX.
 
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I'm not going to bother doing much tweaking on voltage/overclock for right now since I should be putting it on water this weekend. Vega 56 flashed to 64 bios, conservative undervolt (-25 mv on the upper power states). Similar deal on the cpu since I'm using the stock cooler until I put it on water. In retrospect I should have run a test before flashing to make sure it did something.
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I got my 56 in yesterday, but was in the bed with a migraine for most the day and then hung over from the rescue med for the rest of the night so I haven't even opened the static bag yet :(..Am I the only PowerColor owner that is beyond pissed that the didn't include a single fucking piece of foam in the entire box? The card just sits in a cardboard cut out, with hardly any protection. The only thing in the box was a badly written paper pamphlet. Luckily NE used a nice box and FedEX took pity on me and didn't use it to kick field goals or to chock their wheels:nailbiting:...

I got tired of waiting on news of a Koolance block, and Performance PCs told me they wouldn't have the sexy XSPC Razer RGB blocks in for 2-4 weeks. Forget that noise. I crossed my fingers and ordered the copper EK block with the Acetal top, and had FedEX ship it overnight. I took off today since I had to go out of town for a doc appointment, and on my way home decided to pop into the poker room at Maryland LIVE! Needless to say, 105 minutes later I left with my 56 and GPU block completely paid in full :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:...I love having a hobby that pays me to be good at it. I actually paid for both my 290s and blocks the same way!

I am going to be redoing the CL Liquid Pro on my cpu, and am going to drop my top 360mm rad this and reverse my AP-15s so the three of them are exhausting hot air, and the twin 200m fans on my front rad will continue to be intake fans. My rig has been completely stable with overwhelming positive pressure. (All 3 120s and twin 200mm intake and a just a single AP-15 as exhaust.) I would like to get at least another year out of this CPU/MB, so I think I might see how it performs the way I mentioned above...Then again, there is that old saying about not fixing things that aren't broken..
 
Very nice. Years ago I bought a $400 case w/ PSU from poker winnings, and that kind of softened the blow mentally of spending $400 on a case.

Also won $800 at the poker tables in Vegas and got a Sony HMZ1 (when it was new).

However, I'm sure over the years I'm way more in the hole from all the times I lost.
 
ccityinstaller said:
I got my 56 in yesterday, but was in the bed with a migraine for most the day and then hung over from the rescue med for the rest of the night so I haven't even opened the static bag yet :(..Am I the only PowerColor owner that is beyond pissed that the didn't include a single fucking piece of foam in the entire box? The card just sits in a cardboard cut out, with hardly any protection. The only thing in the box was a badly written paper pamphlet. Luckily NE used a nice box and FedEX took pity on me and didn't use it to kick field goals or to chock their wheels:nailbiting:...

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I got an xfx, box was baren with just cardboard...no pamphlet or driver cd. Pretty dissapointing for a $500 card...

My evga 1070 superclocked was packaged so nicely with so many extras!
 
ccityinstaller said:
I got my 56 in yesterday, but was in the bed with a migraine for most the day and then hung over from the rescue med for the rest of the night so I haven't even opened the static bag yet :(..Am I the only PowerColor owner that is beyond pissed that the didn't include a single fucking piece of foam in the entire box? The card just sits in a cardboard cut out, with hardly any protection. The only thing in the box was a badly written paper pamphlet. Luckily NE used a nice box and FedEX took pity on me and didn't use it to kick field goals or to chock their wheels:nailbiting:...
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Nope, you're not the only one.
 
I'm not a huge fan of extras in the package, mostly because I won't actually put a cheesy sticker on my case or anything like that.

However, I did get a PowerColor Vega 64 and the box was literally the same size as the card with no sort of protection. Not sure how expensive foam is, but it can't be that much for a $600 product.
 
I just got my Powercolor 56 in earlier today. Since my Ryzen 1700 MiniITX is currently at the office, I took it apart and cleaned the old drivers and put the new card in + drivers. Ran into a snag when I realized my monitor (Dell 3011) was hooked up to the Titan X (Maxwell) that used to be in it via DVI-D and I didn't have any Display Port cables to use with the new card to get max res. Right now I've got it hooked up via a spare HDMI cable but res is being capped at 1200p and not the native 2560x1600. So far, so good but I'll know for sure when I get the proper cables.
 
cybereality said:
I'm not a huge fan of extras in the package, mostly because I won't actually put a cheesy sticker on my case or anything like that.

However, I did get a PowerColor Vega 64 and the box was literally the same size as the card with no sort of protection. Not sure how expensive foam is, but it can't be that much for a $600 product.
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If foam is expensive then these Water Cooled cards must be a HUGE loss for AMD. lol. As a poster said earlier,"you could drop this thing from a plane and it would be OK".
 
sabrewolf732 said:
I got an xfx, box was baren with just cardboard...no pamphlet or driver cd. Pretty dissapointing for a $500 card...

My evga 1070 superclocked was packaged so nicely with so many extras!
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I think reference cards are more or less like that?
My asus turbo 1060 has very nice, premium packaging. Heck even a plastic protector for the pci-e connector.
But the sapphire vega 64 just has a generic brown cardboard box inside the outer box. Minimum documentations and no CD.
It's got proper foam though. I guess that's why it's more expensive than a xfx:whistle:
Personally I don't care about the extras. They are wasted resource anyway so I love the rudimentary box.
 
ccityinstaller said:
I got my 56 in yesterday, but was in the bed with a migraine for most the day and then hung over from the rescue med for the rest of the night so I haven't even opened the static bag yet :(..Am I the only PowerColor owner that is beyond pissed that the didn't include a single fucking piece of foam in the entire box? The card just sits in a cardboard cut out, with hardly any protection. The only thing in the box was a badly written paper pamphlet. Luckily NE used a nice box and FedEX took pity on me and didn't use it to kick field goals or to chock their wheels:nailbiting:...

I got tired of waiting on news of a Koolance block, and Performance PCs told me they wouldn't have the sexy XSPC Razer RGB blocks in for 2-4 weeks. Forget that noise. I crossed my fingers and ordered the copper EK block with the Acetal top, and had FedEX ship it overnight. I took off today since I had to go out of town for a doc appointment, and on my way home decided to pop into the poker room at Maryland LIVE! Needless to say, 105 minutes later I left with my 56 and GPU block completely paid in full :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:...I love having a hobby that pays me to be good at it. I actually paid for both my 290s and blocks the same way!

I am going to be redoing the CL Liquid Pro on my cpu, and am going to drop my top 360mm rad this and reverse my AP-15s so the three of them are exhausting hot air, and the twin 200m fans on my front rad will continue to be intake fans. My rig has been completely stable with overwhelming positive pressure. (All 3 120s and twin 200mm intake and a just a single AP-15 as exhaust.) I would like to get at least another year out of this CPU/MB, so I think I might see how it performs the way I mentioned above...Then again, there is that old saying about not fixing things that aren't broken..
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For a product that carries only an one year warranty, they can really care less. If t survives the first year you are on the hook for any card failure. I didn't buy the PowerColor card precisely due to their below market warranty coverage.
 
I got the Powercolor Vega 56 delivered today. I am VERY pleased with the performance. Yeah..the packaging wasn't the best, but all arrived in one piece from the Egg. Man this thing absolutely destroys my RX 480, couldnt be happier TBH.
 
Awesome news! Yeah, the Vega 64 is nearly as good as my RX 480s were in CrossFire. Huge improvement for non-CF supported games.
 
Anyone like Catzilla? Sadly only ranked 1145, there was a time when I was 13th place, that felt nice.

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I like Wattman myself, works well for me but also setting up profiles is easy per application.
 
noko said:
I like Wattman myself, works well for me but also setting up profiles is easy per application.
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I want a saved profile option so when all else fails load that one instead of input all settings again when and if something goes wrong.
 
JustReason said:
I want a saved profile option so when all else fails load that one instead of input all settings again when and if something goes wrong.
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Same here and that is what Wattman is best at - just open the program with the profile you configured in the Game panel and wham it is there.
 
i played with Wattman a bit, still feels a bit wonky . I will give it a go again after work.
 
noko said:
Same here and that is what Wattman is best at - just open the program with the profile you configured in the Game panel and wham it is there.
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What does your wattman show for voltage on memory? Mine shows 950mV which is not right I am sure. And seems my HWiNFO has core and memory voltage switched as Core ALWAYS says 1.356V and memory goes from 900 to 950mV. Now that I see the numbers maybe it isn't backwards. But I have seen everyone else mention1.3V for memory and the fact my core is set in wattman to 1180mV and that number isn't in the list at all. None of this makes sense yet really. Guess the waitin game for accurate sensor reading is in order.
 
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What does your wattman show for voltage on memory? Mine shows 950mV which is not right I am sure. And seems my HWiNFO has core and memory voltage switched as Core ALWAYS says 1.356V and memory goes from 900 to 950mV. Now that I see the numbers maybe it isn't backwards. But I have seen everyone else mention1.3V for memory and the fact my core is set in wattman to 1180mV and that number isn't in the list at all. None of this makes sense yet really. Guess the waitin game for accurate sensor reading is in order.
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The same, 950mV for the memory - hmmmm is that just the set voltage when in manual or actual voltage? Or software is not up to date yet for controlling the voltage of HBM2. Good catch and I too thought the voltage was set a 1.3v for the memory. Looks like HWInfo will need to be updated, Aida 64 basically has nothing for Vega readings (most recent beta release). Not sure about Wattman either.
 
Fuck guys.


Installed my waterblock today and computer isn't booting, motherboard says vga is the issue.

Power is plugged in, tried two power supplies. Reseated card. Any ideas before I pull the block?
 
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