Find My iPhone Will Get You in Jail

This is very fucked up. This is also the reason you wait OUTSIDE and call the police about how your "stolen" or "missing device" is at someones house.

This guy's decision making is very poor it seems.
 
All this guy did was take pictures.
In Texas until 1974, a husband who killed a wife and her lover when he caught them in flagrante delicto was not judged a criminal. In fact, the law held that a "reasonable man" would respond to such extreme provocation with acts of violence.
 
ok, how the fuck are we on page two and no one asked for the videos yet? not very [H]ard if you ask me
 
Really not a smart guy.

If you have a good idea something like this is going on, you hire a PI. You don't go and replace your own roof when you start having leaks, unless you're a roofer. So unless you're a PI, you hire one and get around all this shit.
 
Jim Kim said:
All this guy did was take pictures.
In Texas until 1974, a husband who killed a wife and her lover when he caught them in flagrante delicto was not judged a criminal. In fact, the law held that a "reasonable man" would respond to such extreme provocation with acts of violence.
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And thankfully it's 2017 now, where blindly succumbing to emotions is considered unacceptable.
There's this concept called self-control and most people develop it once they grow out of puberty.
 
A PI can cost a lot more than doing it yourself.

If you get the proof you need the best way to handle it is to not share your evidence. Especially in the case you decide to exit the relationship. You don't need to prove it to him/her at that point since you already know everything you need.
 
I Guaranfuckingtee that if it had ben the wife catching her cheating husband this would not be headed to court. I mean eithr way it's fucked but knowing that double standard is at work just makes it turn my stomach that little bit more.
 
oooh, so click-baity...

Anyways, they'll probably let him walk with a slap on the wrist.

I'm just wondering how do you plant a freakin' tablet on someone? Especially in a way that it gets all the way to the bedroom without the err... plantee ever knowing about it?

PS: I find it disturbing how many people here seem to be okay with the idea of murder. I'm sorry but if your spouse is cheating on you, at least some of it is your own fucking fault. Killing a cheating spouse only proves that you are a much worse person than them. In which case I guess their infidelity wasn't entirely unjustified.
 
schoolslave said:
And thankfully it's 2017 now, where blindly succumbing to emotions is considered unacceptable.
There's this concept called self-control and most people develop it once they grow out of puberty.
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I don't know about that. The increasing need for "safe spaces" tells me that people growing more immature and are less able to control their feelings.
 
Everything wrong with America in one article. Pleading guilty was a mistake. It was his iPad. He had every right to track it down. Burglary, I can see since he went into some one's house. He should have just called the cops.
 
Who the hell would press these charges? Given what they both did to this guy, I'm hoping it's not the wife or boss, but I suspect it probably is. Didn't they do enough to this guy?

It amazes me how few morals people have these days. Jeeeeez.
 
thesmokingman said:
The husband should have never plead out on the charges.
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The source nypost article says he pleaded not guilty.

Nancy, 38, subsequently filed for divorce and her six-year marriage to Sean was dissolved in February, court records show.

But Sean got a July 20 letter informing him a Rockland grand jury had indicted him on charges of felony burglary and unlawful surveillance.

He pleaded not guilty last month and is due back in court on Sept. 20.​


Noghri2 said:
He was supposed to be watching his kid(s), but drove over there to catch them in the act. Where was the kid in all of this? Sitting in the car or left alone at home?
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The nypost article said he already suspected she was cheating and left his son with grandma to pursue the iPad signal.

umeng2002 said:
Everything wrong with America in one article. Pleading guilty was a mistake. It was his iPad. He had every right to track it down. Burglary, I can see since he went into some one's house. He should have just called the cops.
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Wifes car was parked outside the bosses house, which probably where the iPad was left. Article doesn't say if he knew whose house it was, there is a picture of the outside house and it looks pretty nice. Sounds like the 57 year old ex-boss is just being a real dick about the whole thing getting caught on video.
 
Tweak42 said:
The source nypost article says he pleaded not guilty.

Nancy, 38, subsequently filed for divorce and her six-year marriage to Sean was dissolved in February, court records show.

But Sean got a July 20 letter informing him a Rockland grand jury had indicted him on charges of felony burglary and unlawful surveillance.

He pleaded not guilty last month and is due back in court on Sept. 20.​




The nypost article said he already suspected she was cheating and left his son with grandma to pursue the iPad signal.



Wifes car was parked outside the bosses house, which probably where the iPad was left. Article doesn't say if he knew whose house it was, there is a picture of the outside house and it looks pretty nice. Sounds like the 57 year old ex-boss is just being a real dick about the whole thing getting caught on video.
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Hardocp news reporting really went to Buzzfeed levels lately.
 
lcpiper said:
Actually, I tend to find the filming justified. His wife's infidelity is grounds for a legal action and filming proof would be evidence for the case. I think that the moment it was observed that she was cheating, the filming would be justifiable. The breaking and entering not so much.
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This right here is what we need more info on. If proving adultery can have serious implications on the divorce negotiations, then the dude might have had a reason to trespass in order to secure proof.

As it turns out though (Based on <1 minute of Google-foo), adultery doesn't mean shit in NY State, unless it can be shown that someone used a significant amount of marital assets to support the affair, which in this case seems unlikely. If this had happened in the 1950's, evidence of infidelity would've been valuable.

This guy is a moron who should've spent a few minutes researching the law and coming up with some semblance of a game plan for handling things in the worst case scenario. He just set himself up to potentially go to prison, and guess who's going to be caring for his child during that time? That matters in a custody battle.

Hopefully this guy gets a decent lawyer who can knock some fucking sense into him.
 
America is a nation run by cucks, what do you expect to happen? Women have all the rights while the men smile and give up theirs in the name of getting laid.
 
He isn't the only one who needs to learn some self control. And as far as we know he wasn't screwing anyone else.
 
lcpiper said:
Yea, though I think he can beat the surveilance thing



Actually, I tend to find the filming justified. His wife's infidelity is grounds for a legal action and filming proof would be evidence for the case. I think that the moment it was observed that she was cheating, the filming would be justifiable. The breaking and entering not so much.
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He didnt break and enter, he unlawfully entered. Big difference.
 
schoolslave said:
And thankfully it's 2017 now, where blindly succumbing to emotions is considered unacceptable.
There's this concept called self-control and most people develop it once they grow out of puberty.
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I am pretty sure we lived in a civilized society back in 1974 and by no means am i agreeing with the concept mentioned in my previous post.
Luckily in 2017 we still have temporary insanity and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_passion to fill in the void for those that don't have your level of supreme self-control.
 
Lesson 1: Dont do to other people what the government thinks it can do to you without consequence - they dont like that
Lesson 2: Because Patriarchy
 
schoolslave said:
And thankfully it's 2017 now, where blindly succumbing to emotions is considered unacceptable.
There's this concept called self-control and most people develop it once they grow out of puberty.
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Walked in on your old lady getting the high hard one from another several times have you? :sneaky:
 
Syntax_Error said:
oooh, so click-baity...

Anyways, they'll probably let him walk with a slap on the wrist.

I'm just wondering how do you plant a freakin' tablet on someone? Especially in a way that it gets all the way to the bedroom without the err... plantee ever knowing about it?

PS: I find it disturbing how many people here seem to be okay with the idea of murder. I'm sorry but if your spouse is cheating on you, at least some of it is your own fucking fault. Killing a cheating spouse only proves that you are a much worse person than them. In which case I guess their infidelity wasn't entirely unjustified.
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I smell some bull shit in this one.

The way I understood the article, the man already suspected his wife. I think the IPad was in her car parked outside and not in the bedroom, but of course if he already suspected his wife then I can certainly see him going to the door. I can't say if he tried knocking or announced himself before entering, I'm sure he could claim so but legally it probably wouldn't make any difference but it could paint a nicer picture for the Jury. It was reasonable for the man to believe his wife could be in the home.

Your stance that a cheating spouse is never entirely to blame though, that's rubbish. Some people just are not faithful at all and many never intended to be. Many women marry for money or position or opportunity and a woman that doesn't love a man is easy to pull away for a swing.

That's live, it's not an idealistic playground, it's just people and sometimes people are shitty.
 
kju1 said:
He didnt break and enter, he unlawfully entered. Big difference.
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Did he open a door to enter? Any door in the house? Legal "breaking" isn't the same as the common understanding of the word. I doubt the door was open.

Of course, YMMV depending on that state's law . . . .
 
jolli said:
Did he open a door to enter? Any door in the house? Legal "breaking" isn't the same as the common understanding of the word. I doubt the door was open.

Of course, YMMV depending on that state's law . . . .
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Yes, he opened the front door which was closed but unlocked. His lawyer argues that he committed misdemeanor trespass which is entering without permission usually punishable by a fine vs the 15 years for burglary which is when you enter intending to commit another crime such as theft.
 
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GreenOrbs said:
Yes, he opened the front door which was closed but unlocked. His lawyer argues that he committed misdemeanor trespass which is entering without permission usually punishable by a fine vs the 15 years for burglary which is when you enter intending to commit another crime such as theft.
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Right, but the other crime here is the unlawful surveillance. If he opened the door intending to film them inside, I can see why he was indicted. That said, it is a sympathetic case and it would be interesting to see what a jury would do with it.
 
umeng2002 said:
Everything wrong with America in one article. Pleading guilty was a mistake. It was his iPad. He had every right to track it down. Burglary, I can see since he went into some one's house. He should have just called the cops.
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The thing about husband and wife issues is that she has as much legal claim to the device as he does no matter who made the purchase or registered it. I'd be like calling my waife saying "Hey dear, is little Johnney's IPAD in the car?" Not tracking it down and chasing off to go get it .... unless I planted it to find out where she was going at night because I don't believe her when she says she's going out with her friends.

Look, I get it, the guy is suspicious, she's cheating, he's hurt, he knows she's doing it but he needs proof. He cooks up a plan but he shouldn't have gone in that house unless he was ready to face to legal problems that can bring. He shoulda hired a lawyer and went from there.
 
jolli said:
Right, but the other crime here is the unlawful surveillance. If he opened the door intending to film them inside, I can see why he was indicted. That said, it is a sympathetic case and it would be interesting to see what a jury would do with it.
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You can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. It all depends on how they construct and present the case. I know, I served on one ten years ago. On one case we unanimously denied a charge. Two days later, the DA's who case it was made sure to passive aggressively mention she heard we'd turned down part of her case and that "we take that under advisement and do listen to you guys". She was just pissed we tossed out what was a clear plea bargaining chip. A suspect was charged with battery and inciting a riot. The cop testified (unenthusiasticly) that he and his partner were worried for their safety because dozens of people were watching said fight. Yeah, right, sure, you betcha.

Why waste anyone's time/money with this nonsense? He pays a fine, restitution for destroyed property if any and we move on. Call the cops? Now the husband is a stalker and its his word against his cheating wife and lover. Nevermind that it won't matter that he has evidence or not, aided by the cops or not because New York is a no-fault state now, despite decades of technically adultery being a criminal misdemeanor.
 
lcpiper said:
The way I understood the article, the man already suspected his wife. I think the IPad was in her car parked outside and not in the bedroom, but of course if he already suspected his wife then I can certainly see him going to the door. I can't say if he tried knocking or announced himself before entering, I'm sure he could claim so but legally it probably wouldn't make any difference but it could paint a nicer picture for the Jury. It was reasonable for the man to believe his wife could be in the home.
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Right. I was being sarcastic with that comment. Sorry for not adding a "/s" at the end for your ease.

lcpiper said:
Your stance that a cheating spouse is never entirely to blame though, that's rubbish. Some people just are not faithful at all and many never intended to be.
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Well, if the person "just is not faithful at all and was never intending to be" then why be in a relationship with such a person in the first place? What's the excuse, being a poor judge of character? Or blindly rushing into a relationship 'cause you were thinking with your dick? It takes two to tango - whatever the state of relationship, both people played some part in it for it to be where it is. Either we can grow up and accept that responsibility, or just stick our fingers in the ears and go nananananana like a child.

lcpiper said:
Many women marry for money or position or opportunity and a woman that doesn't love a man is easy to pull away for a swing.
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Lowlifes cheat on their relationships for money/position/opportunity/lust, both women and men alike.
 
Syntax_Error said:
....................Well, if the person "just is not faithful at all and was never intending to be" then why be in a relationship with such a person in the first place? What's the excuse, being a poor judge of character? Or blindly rushing into a relationship 'cause you were thinking with your dick? ...........
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You needed excuses?

It's just people man, some are smart, some dumb, some trustworthy and others not. It's been happening since the beginning of recorded time and probably before. But you seem to know this.

Syntax_Error said:
........................................Lowlifes cheat on their relationships for money/position/opportunity/lust, both women and men alike
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I suppose the kind of man who gets himself arrested for illegal surveillance and burglary might not be so capable in figuring out a potential partner, as say .... a smarter person might be :D
 
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