VanGoghComplex
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Probably will. =)If you're going to buy 7700k buy a 5.2 or 5.3 GHz chip from silicon lottery.
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Probably will. =)If you're going to buy 7700k buy a 5.2 or 5.3 GHz chip from silicon lottery.
Pretty set on an 8700k as long as the ~10% increased performance is an IPC gain and not because of it's increased turbo clock over the 7700k... Actually, I'll probably pick one up even if the gains ARE from the increased clocks. I'm running a 4770k @4.5Ghz and I've had the itch to upgrade for quite some time. I'm hoping to pick up the 8700k, clock it at ~5ghz and just forget about the CPU market for the next five or six years.
How long until we get an mITX mobo that supports these?
Mobo makers got ITX boards listed. So maybe on release day?
There are no core IPC changes. Any changes is due to cache, clocks and memory bandwidth.
This is my Destiny 2 build platform, 8th gen 6c/12t mitx in an ncase with whatever highest end gpu is at the time (1080ti most likely), hoping for a z370i rog strix with 2x m.2 nvme slots.
How do you build around a game that hasn't been benchmarked?
How do you build around a game that hasn't been benchmarked?
Seeing as how his build details outline a top end (consumer) CPU & top end (consumer) GPU, and he also wants a top end ITX motherboard with dual M.2 SSDs; I am pretty sure (as long as the RAM is a decent spec as well) that Destiny 2 should run alright.
Now, if he were coming in with an i3 & GTX 1060 3GB & the such, there might be some question as to the effectiveness of the build to run a (possibly) resource demanding game...
How do you build around a game that hasn't been benchmarked?
I mean like, has Intel actually stated a desktop release for this year?
I can't see the Z370 boards dropping any time soon though. I mean like, has Intel actually stated a desktop release for this year?
Yes. OEMs also having SKUs ready.
Almost all 300 series lineups are known as this point.
I saw a ROG STRIX Z370I GAMING, hoping that's the ITX variant, that's my plan.
Going to skip coffeelake, not buying a z370 when the true 300 series is coming out with cannonlake. Icelake and 400 series since every step needs a new board, the new architecture looks interesting.
I'll say I'm going to upgrade, but then they'll start talking pcie 4.0 and usb 3.2 on ice lake "in six months", and it'll force me to acknowledge my min frames @1080p are still above 50 @ ultra settings, and I'll hold out...
.... sigh
call me skeptical, but I am in doubt (until actual benchmarks at least) that Intel isn't giving us something without taking something back.
EG Skylake-X, they gave us more cores per $ spent, but they also moved up their 44 lane CPU compared to Broadwell-E (lowest 40 lane CPU costed $600 from Broadwell, but Skylake it now costs $999 for 44 lanes), so I am not entirely convinced that Intel will give us more cores without taking something back.
Me too.Part of me wants to go for Threadripper just to flip Intel the bird on their bullshit pricing and gimpy PCIe controllers.
That said, I don't know what we could possibly lose going to Coffee Lake.
Me too.
The fact that the lowest TR has more PCI-E lanes than the best intel HEDT chips, and they STILL have the 'courage' to up the cost of their 40 lane CPU is really getting into me.
At this stage I am thinking even Ivy Bridge E is a better buy.
Total PCIe lane allocation for the platform is the same on either platform. You just get more for less money on Threadripper and X399 than you do on Intel as the buy in for the 44 lane CPU's is $1,000. That said, AMD allocates more lanes to the CPU than Intel does, where as Intel has more lanes on the PCH. Unfortunately, the lanes AMD has on the PCH on gen 2.0 lanes. All lanes on X299 are gen 3.0. X399 is functionally the same as Intel's last generation X99 platform.
Won't xeon-w get you 44 pci-e lanes for sub $300 ? I'm looking at that or TR...
After Sandy Bridge Intel has always given something at the cost of something else. Often, each IPC increase came at the cost of reduced clock speeds and or overclock ceilings. As you said, we now have to pay $1,000 to get all the PCIe lanes on X299 which is bullshit. Part of me wants to go for Threadripper just to flip Intel the bird on their bullshit pricing and gimpy PCIe controllers.
That said, I don't know what we could possibly lose going to Coffee Lake.
With Z370 we lose the concept of same platform CPU upgrades. 1 motherboard for 1 CPU from now on with Intel in the mainstream.