1366 x58 Xeon Enthusiast overclocks club

I have same board and CPU as Napoleon as well. It took multiple CPU's for me to finally find stability at 4.2 Ghz. I chose to utilize 21 x 200 as it gives a perfect 4.2 and my ram runs at it's exact rating of ddr 1600. My settings are as follows:

21x200 = 4.2ghz
QPI x 36
Uncore x 15
Memory x 8 = 1600 mhz

C1E enabled
C3/C6/C7 disabled
EIST disabled
Mem timings 9-9-9-24-2

Voltages:
LLC- Auto (it works for me)
Normal + 0.2625 DVID
QPI/VTT 1.315
CPU PLL 1.80
PCIE 1.50 (stock)

Dram voltage 1.5

I have to say that I tried about 4 CPU's total. I could use all the same general settings, but vcore had to be bumped to high on the others in order to get stability. I finally found this X5670 that would run 100% stable at a reasonable voltage and temps. Maybe your cpu has just degraded a bit?

Yeh I thought it must be something along those lines... I mean I can run high voltages easy with the setup I have, windows usually boots, just isn't stable over 4.2ghz anymore, where only a few months ago with a much much worse cooler I was able to hit 4.4 constantly.

I have tried every multiplier/voltage/settings combo I could think of and just couldnt get 4.4 stable again :(
 
Out of curiosity, what is the last set of Intel Chipset drivers you have that works for your motherboard? Think mine is from 2012/2013 maybe?
 
Another question... is there usually much difference in overclocking ability between the different X56xx chips?
 
Another question... is there usually much difference in overclocking ability between the different X56xx chips?

Not so much really, the thing is, the x5660 will give 23 multiplier, the x5670 24, x5675 will be 25 multiplier.
Higher multiplier will mean lower BCLK so it is less stress on the board. Not all boards can do high BCLK

The x5660 or 75 are what I would get.
The w3580 and 90 are both multiplier unlocked and BCLK unlocked, something to keep in mind.
The w3670 is not multiplier unlocked.
 
Not so much really, the thing is, the x5660 will give 23 multiplier, the x5670 24, x5675 will be 25 multiplier.
Higher multiplier will mean lower BCLK so it is less stress on the board. Not all boards can do high BCLK

The x5660 or 75 are what I would get.
The w3580 and 90 are both multiplier unlocked and BCLK unlocked, something to keep in mind.
The w3670 is not multiplier unlocked.

Interesting... I thought that the higher clocked chips might be binned better, good to know.

I knew about the different multis on the 5660/70 but had no idea the 5675 could do 25, might have a look into getting one potentially!

The only thing stopping me from the w35xx's are the 2 less cores.

Is there much of a concencus on which boards are the better ones for OCing on x58?
 
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I have a 1366 system I'm trying to figure out what to do with. I have:
Xeon x5660
MSI X58 Pro-E
24gb of ram

The only thing I can think of using it for is a Plex server/back up gaming rig. Or selling it :(
 
I have a 1366 system I'm trying to figure out what to do with. I have:
Xeon x5660
MSI X58 Pro-E
24gb of ram

The only thing I can think of using it for is a Plex server/back up gaming rig. Or selling it :(

Massive overkill for a plex heh :) Back up gaming might work...

Im running my x5670 with a Gainward GTX 1070 and 16gig DDR3, its fine for my main gaming PC :p It runs everything ultra and maxed out anyway.
 
Interesting... I thought that the higher clocked chips might be binned better, good to know.

I knew about the different multis on the 5660/70 but had no idea the 5675 could do 25, might have a look into getting one potentially!

The only thing stopping me from the w35xx's are the 2 less cores.

Is there much of a concencus on which boards are the better ones for OCing on x58?


The w3680 and 90 are hexcores and are unlocked. I wrote w35xx, one line then w36xx under it, that was a typo. Sorry for that.
The w3670 is not multiplier unlocked.
 
The w3680 and 90 are hexcores and are unlocked. I wrote w35xx, one line then w36xx under it, that was a typo. Sorry for that.
The w3670 is not multiplier unlocked.

Thank you, you just wasted an hour of my day searching Ebay for more Xeons ;)

X5675 for $54usd or a W3680 for $79usd... decisions.... Im assuming the X5675 is a better choice, as they will probably overclock the same or similar anyways.
 
Thank you, you just wasted an hour of my day searching Ebay for more Xeons ;)

X5675 for $54usd or a W3680 for $79usd... decisions.... Im assuming the X5675 is a better choice, as they will probably overclock the same or similar anyways.

Oh who doesen't like shopping for new hardware? lol
Get two or three x5660 and OC them all, see what one works best. Keep one for a spare and sell the last one.
 
Oh who doesen't like shopping for new hardware? lol
Get two or three x5660 and OC them all, see what one works best. Keep one for a spare and sell the last one.

Haha very true... Well I am putting together a gaming PC for my brother in law as I have a spare GTX 960 lying around as well as 6gb of triple chan mem, so thought Id do him a x58 build similar to mine.

Hence why I could grab another Xeon and see which is best for OCing and keep that for myself (as he wont need to OC much with the games he plays). So you reckon buy a few x5660's over any of the W or x5670+ hey, ill check out the pricing now on them.

Also for some reason I gave OCing another crack today on my card, and finally got it back to 4.4ghz... for some reason its running through 10 runs of intel burn test at 4.51ghz now no problem, maybe I wont need to change chips afterall :p


Edit: Ok... the x5660's are like 25-30usd, definitely a much cheaper option!

edit 2: Estimated delivery Tuesday, Sep 12, 2017 - Thursday, Sep 28, 2017

Intel Xeon X5660 2.8GHz Six Core SLBV6 CPU w/Grease

All your fault Bill.
 
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1579581/official-samsung-950-pro-owners-club/220#post_24629438

http://www.overclock.net/t/1579581/official-samsung-950-pro-owners-club/220#post_24629438

You can still find Samsung SM951, and you can see a combo deal for $150 for it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VELD92U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AHG2MI785YUY7&psc=1

Even in those posts people got it to boot with older P45 chipset. Looks like Samsung put in Legacy support into these chips.

FYI Samsung SM951 is an OEM 950 pro.

I have a 951 and can confirm it will NOT boot my X58 machine.. it lacks an OPROM which I think the 950 does have
 
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dunno, 950 is too rich for my blood, picked up a Plextor M6 PCIe to try out since it seems it has an oprom
 
So I pulled the trigger on a X299 system. Bought a 1080ti Poseidon along with that. Before I put that all together, I've stuck the 1080ti in place of the GTX 780 in my current X58 system to see if there's any issues or bottleneck here.


Here's the result:
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13493728/fs/6795445

W3690 @ 4.0 (780 OC) 9915
W3690 @ 4.23 (1080ti stock) 20099

For reference, the median 3DMark score for a 7700K processor and a 1080ti combination lies between 19800 and 23099


In summary - the X58 is perfectly good for the 1080ti. This system is still absolutely relevant today for a gaming system. In fact I'm feeling a bit ridiculous spending all this money "upgrading" from 36 PCIe lanes on the X58 to 28 lanes on the X299 (with a 7820X cpu), thanks Intel.
 
I just picked up an X58 Sabertooth and a X5660. I have an NVMe drive and a PCIe adapter. Am I looking for something specific to make it work? From what I can gather, certain M.2 drives have the requirements to boot from a Non-UEFI bios and others do not. But then I've heard that other boards have some sort of UEFI to allow NVMe. Anyone with a Sabertooth get it to work or am I going to have to look at something like Duet.
 
I have a 951 and can confirm it will NOT boot my X58 machine.. it lacks an OPROM which I think the 950 does have

Hello, could you please post the exact model number of the 951.
Is it a MZ-HPV...... or MZ-VPV.......?
 
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I will look at it when I get home, it's the AHCI model not nvme, that much I know... it shows up in windows as a SATA disk but not in the bios at all... and removing anything bootable except for the 951 leaves the machine in an unbootable state
 
I will look at it when I get home, it's the AHCI model not nvme, that much I know... it shows up in windows as a SATA disk but not in the bios at all... and removing anything bootable except for the 951 leaves the machine in an unbootable state

Ahhh ok thanks. I was wondering if the AHCI would work HPV is the AHCI.
I ordered a different brand and model to test, if it works out well I will post up.
 
Was doing some messing around tonight on 2 diff OC's. I was quite surprised by the difference in the intel burn test results between the two... This is on a x5670. The superposition bench doesnt really make too much difference as it wasn't really impacted by either.

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Hello, could you please post the exact model number of the 951.
Is it a MZ-HPV...... or MZ-VPV.......?

MZHPV256HDGL-000L1

was the drive I was trying out, nogo booting my x58 setup... picked up a Plextor M6, just installed it tonight and it does show an OPROM right after the BIOS and shows up as a boot option in the BIOS so fingers crossed it will work
 
Thanks for posting, I thought for sure the AHCI one would work. Glad you posted before I bought one.
I just received a drive in the mail, waiting for the adapter to get here tomorrow.
If this works, I'll post up test results and links.
If I can't doot from it maybe I can install a game or two on it, or save it for when I upgrade MB
 
Bill1024 Re: m.2 for a game or two - I have seen some benchmarks somewhere comparing load times of different games with AHCI/NVMe/SATA and they were all the same pretty much. Off memory the m.2's speed difference was more on windows operations and booting.

If you want ill hunt down the article.
 
can confirm the Plextor M6e will boot my MSI x58 board without issue, no EFI or hacks required, just imaged my SATA SSD over to it
 
If anyone have any doubts whether or not this old CPU still can be used for gaming, don't worry. X5660 @ 4.2 GHz and GTX 1080 with slight overclock compared to a system with stock i7 6700K in 3DMark Timespy:

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Can't believe I get this performance from a dirt cheap CPU off eBay!
 
I've been running PrimeGrid, World Community Grid, Seti, Asteroids, Milkyway, Rosetta, on my X5670 overclocked to 3969MHz in a Asus P6T Deluxe. So far none of my results have been invalidated by the second checker. I now have two 1080TI gpus plugged in also, and the whole system is doing excellent.

The only downside is my chip doesn't have AVX or FMA instructions, so some of my PrimeGrid CPU tasks take a lot longer than the new CPUs can do. I mainly stick with the GPU tasks at PrimeGrid.
 
You can run multithread on the LLR tasks at primegrid. Still not as good as AVX but in a challenge every task counts.
The x5660 at 4.2 does ok with multithread,
With HT on can rack up some hours on WCG to get those diamond badges.
 
You can run multithread on the LLR tasks at primegrid. Still not as good as AVX but in a challenge every task counts.
The x5660 at 4.2 does ok with multithread,
With HT on can rack up some hours on WCG to get those diamond badges.
Certainly setting the LLR tasks to threading in the app_config really helps to bring the run times down. The really long ones, I've set to 6 threads and the shorter are set just to one. I've got it configured so BOINC uses 80% of CPUs and 100% of time, so that it loads up 4GPU tasks at 1cpu each, then another 6CPUs worth of tasks -- maybe 1 LLR tasks configured to 6, or a handful of 1cpu tasks. I'm looking to get all silver badges in PrimeGrid, then move my CPU over to WCG to get pretty badges there. The GPUs will stay PrimeGrid for the foreseeable future.

Right now this old Xeon computer is in the top 5 on the PrimeGrid top computers list.
 
Hello everybody, I'm glad this thread is still active for the trusty x58.
I would like to share my xp with my GA-X58A-UD5 Rev 2.0 board
Last week upgraded from i7 950 to an X5670,and here is my report, hopefully it will be helpful to users with similar builds.

PSU is Coolermaster GX750
I use Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro CPU Cooler
CPU runs at 4.2 Ghz not planning go any further.
I have 4x6 Corsair vengeance DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
My Ratio is 4:1
GPU is Gigabyte GTX770 OC Windforce 2GB (low mem i know hehe)

CPU Idle Temp around 36 in Windows 10 and OSX 10.12.6

In full load when gaming goes around 60 degrees and also when recording/mixing with loads of instruments and plugins on Osx.

All Cpu features are enabled, RAM runs at 1600.

Here are the photos in BIOS:


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I haven't noticed any lag whatsoever, I am open to suggestions from more experienced users, thank you!
 
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Nice - wish I saw this thread a couple years ago lol :p Took a while to read through it all!

Just snagged a X5670 to replace my i7 930 - and have it just reinstalled and running at stock in Win 10 (it's faster at stock than my OCed 930 - though I only got that to 3.7GHz - and at stock it seems to be about equal if not a tad bit faster than my 4790 (non-k) at 3.6GHz lol.)

GA-X58A-UD3R Rev 2.0 board
Titan Fenrir cooler
12 GB RAM (6x2 G.Skill 1600)
Kingwin laser LZ-1000 watt PSU

Going to stress test it as-is to see what everything looks like (though having to re-learn everything... it's been 7-8 years since I've done this last :p) Looks like I used LinX back in the day lol. Have to go through this thread again and re-learn what everything means. Man, crazy how much stuff you forget if you don't mess with this stuff in years :p
 
Okay, I think I may have got mine stable at 4.2GHz.

Block: 200
Multi: 21
vCore: 3.31875v
CPU PLL: 1.8v (AUTO)
QPI/UCLK/Vtt: 1.335v
QPI Clock Ratio: AUTO
Uncore Clock Ratio: 18
vDDR: 1.6v
IOH/ICH: 1.1
PCI-E: 1.5v (AUTO)
X.M.P.: DISABLED
System Memory Multiplier (SPD): 8
Intel Turbo Boost: DISABLED
CPU EIST: DISABLED
C3/C6/C7 State Support: DISABLED
Load-Line Calibration: Level 2

It's quite a bit faster than my OC'd i7 930 - especially where the CPU is heavily used. I'm actually curious now if the 1080 ti would bottleneck this CPU in such a way that building an entirely new computer will bring THAT much difference in gaming? Especially if building a new computer requires a cheaper video card (1080 or below)?
 
Okay, I think I may have got mine stable at 4.2GHz.

Block: 200
Multi: 21
vCore: 3.31875v
CPU PLL: 1.8v (AUTO)
QPI/UCLK/Vtt: 1.335v
QPI Clock Ratio: AUTO
Uncore Clock Ratio: 18
vDDR: 1.6v
IOH/ICH: 1.1
PCI-E: 1.5v (AUTO)
X.M.P.: DISABLED
System Memory Multiplier (SPD): 8
Intel Turbo Boost: DISABLED
CPU EIST: DISABLED
C3/C6/C7 State Support: DISABLED
Load-Line Calibration: Level 2

It's quite a bit faster than my OC'd i7 930 - especially where the CPU is heavily used. I'm actually curious now if the 1080 ti would bottleneck this CPU in such a way that building an entirely new computer will bring THAT much difference in gaming? Especially if building a new computer requires a cheaper video card (1080 or below)?


Totally depends on what you are shooting for with gaming. If you have games that are heavily CPU bound then do some research first - more cores or higher single core performance could help, especially with lower resolutions and high refresh rate monitors. If you are going to game at 4k then the GPU will be your bottleneck and your 4.2GHz system is fine. Spend what you saved not upgrading the base system and splurge on the ti.
 
Okay, I think I may have got mine stable at 4.2GHz.

Block: 200
Multi: 21
vCore: 3.31875v
CPU PLL: 1.8v (AUTO)
QPI/UCLK/Vtt: 1.335v
QPI Clock Ratio: AUTO
Uncore Clock Ratio: 18
vDDR: 1.6v
IOH/ICH: 1.1
PCI-E: 1.5v (AUTO)
X.M.P.: DISABLED
System Memory Multiplier (SPD): 8
Intel Turbo Boost: DISABLED
CPU EIST: DISABLED
C3/C6/C7 State Support: DISABLED
Load-Line Calibration: Level 2

It's quite a bit faster than my OC'd i7 930 - especially where the CPU is heavily used. I'm actually curious now if the 1080 ti would bottleneck this CPU in such a way that building an entirely new computer will bring THAT much difference in gaming? Especially if building a new computer requires a cheaper video card (1080 or below)?
Is weird but i have yet to read a post from people that complain about being bottleneck with a high end card and this setup.....sure specific benchmarks will score a bit lower but thats mostly it
 
Very very interesting. I rather like the idea of spending the money on a new video card over building a new computer with a lesser card (I'd have to compromise somewhere). I'd actually end up spending less money and still have a good/great gaming experience?! Wow. Amazing for a 7-8 year old system. This x58 build may be the single best computer I've ever built.

I've noticed it's hard to check for good comparisons with gaming on this chip since it's so dated though. Anything more modern that I can compare the x5670 to at 4.2GHz? I do game at 144Hz at 1080p (though i'm curious about virtual super resolution? or just liking the idea of just being able to turn everything on - i'm not going to replace my 27" Asus monitor for several more years I think). If this chip can get me a few more years with a 1080ti (or until the computer just up and dies) a may just go for the video card.
 
Very very interesting. I rather like the idea of spending the money on a new video card over building a new computer with a lesser card (I'd have to compromise somewhere). I'd actually end up spending less money and still have a good/great gaming experience?! Wow. Amazing for a 7-8 year old system. This x58 build may be the single best computer I've ever built.

I've noticed it's hard to check for good comparisons with gaming on this chip since it's so dated though. Anything more modern that I can compare the x5670 to at 4.2GHz? I do game at 144Hz at 1080p (though i'm curious about virtual super resolution? or just liking the idea of just being able to turn everything on - i'm not going to replace my 27" Asus monitor for several more years I think). If this chip can get me a few more years with a 1080ti (or until the computer just up and dies) a may just go for the video card.

Here are a couple threads where they are looking at the x58 vs the new CPUs.
For the most part these old CPUs still do very well.
I would read the first couple pages then maybe the last dozen or so and see if you find something

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/...cussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/0_50
http://www.overclock.net/t/1489955/official-x58-xeon-club/0_50
 
Thanks! Looks like folks believe there's nothing holding the 1080ti back on this chip. Still having a hard time doing better comparisons with actual benches :p Even in 3DMark I can't seem to find a timespy bench with one 1080ti to compare to lol (I can find benches with them in SLI though :p).
 
Thanks! Looks like folks believe there's nothing holding the 1080ti back on this chip. Still having a hard time doing better comparisons with actual benches :p Even in 3DMark I can't seem to find a timespy bench with one 1080ti to compare to lol (I can find benches with them in SLI though :p).

You need some one with a x58 and a 1080Ti to run a bench, or a newer CPU with a 1080Ti?
What are you thinking of buying or doing? I am sorry I am not sure what you're thinking.
Thinking of getting a 1080Ti and worried that the x58 will bottle neck it?
 
Here you go. I upgraded to a 1080ti a few months ago and saved the benchmark data. I picked up a 68050K and X99 MB a month or two ago.

Where I still had data for the X5670, I used it. Where I didn't, I used the X5690. My X5690 at 4.2 GHz is in the ball park of your X5670 at the same speed. There will be some variation, but this should give you an idea. I ran tests at stock speeds and @ 4.2 GHz. Similar with the 6850K , running it at stock speed (3.6 GHz) and at 4.2 GHz.

There are several single 1080ti tests and some SLI tests, too.

Game Comparison and SLI Comparison will show the impact when upgrading the GPU's.

So, the result? Depends on which games you play or what else you do with your system as to whether you get more bang for your buck with a GPU versus platform upgrade.

Picking up an X5670 to drop into an X58 board and replace an i7 920 is a really cheap upgrade these days, especially if you already have 12GB+ ram. The alternative is dropping several hundred on a new CPU/MB/Memory combo. This is why its hard to justify upgrading from even newer CPU's.



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