The Vega Pre-Order Thread

Why will you pre-order AMD Vega?

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Dayaks said:
How does the poll have price/performance at 19%.... it was never a good deal in that regard.
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The poll was held before the card actually launched and the people in this thread only could use the expected $399 Vega 56 and $499 Vega 64 prices to vote that aspect.

I agree - at current prices that poll choice would probably be lower.

Though - realistically - the Vega 56 isn't bad price/performance at $500.

It doesn't matter if 1070 came out a year ago - there isn't a newer card to replace it -- and there won't be for another 6 months or so. So if you had something like a 960 right now and wanted to upgrade for under $500 - you'd be looking right now at either a Vega 56 for $500 or a 1070 for $450. One could argue at that pricepoint the Vega 56 is the superior choice.

Better gaming performance, Better Mining performance, Freesync, -- negative being power use and heat (which isn't really a primary driver for most people as compared to the aforementioned three characteristics). It's admittedly harder to argue for Vega 64 or water cooled Vega 64. Cause the 1080 is faster for gaming than Vega 64 and uses less power. At that point it becomes freesync value pivot mostly.


At this point - if I wasn't a PC gamer at heart I'd abandon this platform all together. Xbox One Scorpio is a ridiculous value compared to PC gaming since card prices have driven up with mining craze.
 
Archaea said:
The poll was held before the card actually launched and the people in this thread only could use the expected $399 Vega 56 and $499 Vega 64 prices to vote that aspect.

I agree - at current prices that poll choice would probably be lower.

Though - realistically - the Vega 56 isn't bad price/performance at $500.

It doesn't matter if 1070 came out a year ago - there isn't a newer card to replace it -- and there won't be for another 6 months or so. So if you had something like a 960 right now and wanted to upgrade for under $500 - you'd be looking right now at either a Vega 56 for $500 or a 1070 for $450. One could argue at that pricepoint the Vega 56 is the superior choice.

Better gaming performance, Better Mining performance, Freesync, -- negative being power use and heat (which isn't really a primary driver for most people as compared to the aforementioned three characteristics). It's admittedly harder to argue for Vega 64 or water cooled Vega 64. Cause the 1080 is faster for gaming than Vega 64 and uses less power. At that point it becomes freesync value pivot mostly.


At this point - if I wasn't a PC gamer at heart I'd abandon this platform all together. Xbox One Scorpio is a ridiculous value compared to PC gaming since card prices have driven up with mining craze.
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True and to be honest I consider +/- 10% negligible on performance or I don't really blink at $100 if I am going to use something every day for at least two years. Most of here nit pick a bit too much.
 
Dayaks said:
True and to be honest I consider +/- 10% negligible on performance or I don't really blink at $100 if I am going to use something every day for at least two years. Most of here nit pick a bit too much.
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The 1080 starts at $499 and up at the Egg, price per performance is better over the 56.
 
ccityinstaller said:
I finally decided on doing it since I could use my MasterCard to get the $25 off 200. Well NE decided right then that they were no longer accepting the MasterPass code. I decided that if they wanted to be greedy and end it early they wouldn't get my money.
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This is why I don't shop at NE anymore. They're pretty much my last resort in ordering hardware because:

1) taxes

2) obvious markups

3) customer service

Unfortunately, they're one of the few retailers carrying G-SKILL but the sticks I want are sold out so I'm going to order internationally.
 
DooKey said:
Wow, only the hardest amd fanboi would spend $800 on this card.
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I did

What's it to you?

It works better on my setup than my two 1080ti in SLI.

Because of FreeSync

My 1080tis are now mining in a secondary machine and the Vega is in my primary gaming PC.

Five more 1080ti came in tonight. That makes nine. I've tried a single 1080TI, I've tried two in sli with a high bandwidth bridge, and I've tried three in sli. (3x SLI is a bad joke - minimal performance gain, huge heat gain/throttling, poor support)

In the end, I'm using exactly 0 of the 1080ti for gaming. The Vega LC holds that honor, at least while I have freesync monitors.

If I had gsync monitors I'm quite confident I'd be using the 1080ti. Adaptive sync technology is the winner over RTG or GTG.


Bottom line: Freesync with a single Vega is a better gaming experience than 1080ti SLI with V-Sync, in my experience.


Sooo... $800 vs. $1400. The $800 Vega is a better experience because of my displays.
 

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DooKey said:
Wow, only the hardest amd fanboi would spend $800 on this card.
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Bought it today from NE and yes very excited about new stuff, you bought a Titan XP and I am sure many would said that to you as well.
 
I must be dumb since I have a Vega FE. Oh well. Got it at the same price as Vega 64 brand new. I also have a freesync monitor. It overclocks past 1700mhz with over 1000mhz on HBM. I can get in between a 1080 and 1080ti.
 
Compare to GeForce GTX 1080,

Radeon RX Vega 64 is...

1. Cheaper? ✗

2. Faster? ✗

3. More power efficient? ✗

Three strikes!

You're Out!
 
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noko said:
Bought it today from NE and yes very excited about new stuff, you bought a Titan XP and I am sure many would said that to you as well.
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I've had top end performance for over a year and it was well worth that. I always buy a top end card regardless of vendor if it is number 1 each generation. I'm a performance buyer and not a bang for the buck buyer.
 
Archaea said:
I did

What's it to you?

It works better on my setup than my two 1080ti in SLI.

Because of FreeSync

My 1080tis are now mining in a secondary machine and the Vega is in my primary gaming PC.

Five more 1080ti came in tonight. That makes nine. I've tried a single 1080TI, I've tried two in sli with a high bandwidth bridge, and I've tried three in sli. (3x SLI is a bad joke - minimal performance gain, huge heat gain/throttling, poor support)

In the end, I'm using exactly 0 of the 1080ti for gaming. The Vega LC holds that honor, at least while I have freesync monitors.

If I had gsync monitors I'm quite confident I'd be using the 1080ti. Adaptive sync technology is the winner over RTG or GTG.


Bottom line: Freesync with a single Vega is a better gaming experience than 1080ti SLI with V-Sync, in my experience.


Sooo... $800 vs. $1400. The $800 Vega is a better experience because of my displays.
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My main point is that the usual AMDrone is a bang for the buck buyer and the Vega 64 not a good bang for the buck card. On the other hand a Vega 56 is pretty nice bang for the buck. I guess I just can't understand buying a $800 card that is roughly a 1080 when you could have been enjoying 1080 performance for over a year already and would have spent less to get it.
 
DooKey said:
My main point is that the usual AMDrone is a bang for the buck buyer and the Vega 64 not a good bang for the buck card. On the other hand a Vega 56 is pretty nice bang for the buck. I guess I just can't understand buying a $800 card that is roughly a 1080 when you could have been enjoying 1080 performance for over a year already and would have spent less to get it.
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Freesync...

I have these three freesync monitors in eyefinity.
32", VA panel, 1440p, freesync. I paid $300 each new for the HP Omens. So $900.

To replicate the display setup on the gsync side would probably cost $2100-$2400, (32" 1440p gsync are $700-$800 each). so paying a couple hundred extra for the overpriced Vega liquid cooled edition GPU is made a bit more palatable when compared to the $1200 I saved on the displays. Also I bought the displays last year (when they first launched) to compliment the pair of Fury X cards I bought at newegg new for $325 each. Last years value proposition for freesync gear vs gsync gear was off the charts in favor of freesync.
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DooKey said:
My main point is that the usual AMDrone is a bang for the buck buyer and the Vega 64 not a good bang for the buck card. On the other hand a Vega 56 is pretty nice bang for the buck. I guess I just can't understand buying a $800 card that is roughly a 1080 when you could have been enjoying 1080 performance for over a year already and would have spent less to get it.
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Someone buying today will look at what is available today and probably could careless what was available last year. That being said Vega 64 over the 1080 with many fine AIB 1080's may not be the best bang/$ option. Once pricing and AIB versions come and stabilized we will see. Also there are other considerations such as costs of monitors, performance such as in VR that will decide which one is better for one to buy. Then you have folks like me who just like to buy multiple cards, sometimes ignoring ridiculous pricing on top of it as well.
 
The item page for each of those cards says they can't be purchased outside of a combo, so it's probably just the placeholder listing so that the combo works.

But still.. no supply anywhere in the US.
 
I just snagged a 56 from the egg. Tried to log into my other account to get another but they were gone in 3 minutes. The demand for them is real.
 
If you're talking about the powercolor pack listing it's still there. Though now that I check, Powercolor appears to only have a one year warranty on AMD reference cards so I'm avoiding them. If you mean the XFX one which showed up as in stock for me, but spit an error when trying to add to cart, yeah that one went fast.
 
Anyone know which retailers are doing the Black pack (i.e. Vega 56, CPU+Mobo, and FreeSync monitor)?

The Radeon site has retailers listed but all of them are doing some weird combination of things if anything at all...
 
I got two 56 for mining


One is a PowerColor
One is a Sapphire

The powercolor literally had the worst packing for a new retail graphics card I've ever seen. It was packaged in cardboard only. No foam, if you dropped thar box flat that card would take full trama.
 
Not surprising. I have PowerColor 480s and the box is just cardboard with no foam or bubbles.

I also got a PowerColor 64 and it was suspiciously thin for a high-end GPU box (probably the same style as the 56 with different print).
 
cybereality said:
Not surprising. I have PowerColor 480s and the box is just cardboard with no foam or bubbles.

I also got a PowerColor 64 and it was suspiciously thin for a high-end GPU box (probably the same style as the 56 with different print).
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Intersting -- I had wondered if it was related to the supposedly razor thin margins on these Vega cards. But if you had the same on your RX580 - then no.

The Sapphire Vega56 packaging was minimalist --- but it was at least foam, and the card was well protected.

The liquid cooled Vega 64 packaging from Sapphire could protect that card if it dropped off a two storey building . The foam is literally about 3" thick on most any side. Their isn't much in the way of contents inside of the box - but there is a couple screws and some manuals/cards.

Neither of my Vega 56 had any accessories at all. By comparison a recent EVGA 1080Ti Black SC I unboxed had a full size color EVGA gaming poster - like umpteen manuals, two 4x6" stickers (why?), and some power adapters, and packed in a very oversized box with a very generous foam surround, with EVGA press cut out, and all GPU ports filled with the protective plugs, and a nice rubber quality EVGA branded PCI-E connector guard, and the SLI ports with rubber EVGA branded guards as well. The unpacking experience between the two cards couldn't be more night and day. Talk about first impressions. PowerColor is sucking wind!!! EVGA made me feel like I personally was being given an achievement award for buying such a high quality luxury item. I bought a pair of speakers once that came in a white drawstring bag. That's like a $2 cost to the company but it made the speaker unpacking experience feel like a white glove luxury item. TOTALLY worth the $2 to make the buyer feel that impressed with the first impression! It subliminally builds an attachment. I still have those speakers. I probably would never sell them, they are boxed up and I don't use them right now. By contrast I considered just selling the powercolor card right away - but then - really - it's the exact same card as the Sapphire I bought - the only difference is the sticker --- assuming it works - no harm no foul --- but first impressions are worth something more than PowerColor engineers have determined --- in my estimation.
 
Archaea said:
I got two 56 for mining


One is a PowerColor
One is a Sapphire

The powercolor literally had the worst packing for a new retail graphics card I've ever seen. It was packaged in cardboard only. No foam, if you dropped thar box flat that card would take full trama.
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I can't say I'm surprised given that they also cut the warranty down to 1 year.
 
I see, OK. I've purchased from some lesser known sites here and there to get rare items and it's usually fine. In any case, it's sold out now.
 
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