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GPUs: Gamers Left Behind as the Compute Market Taking Priority
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Maybe AMD should couple the Radeon 56 with Vive and/or Rift packs. Also Rx580 as well. You don't want a new market to stagnant and the above does not help. If AMD can get more VR units since Nvidia lower end cards are also having the same issue with miners that will help them as well as the new growing market. AMD selling to miners helps in killing the pc gaming market and new VR market. Selling to gamers/VR market has a longer benefit as far as I can see.Good luck building a VR PC: Ethereum miners are buying all the GPUs
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/...r_pc_ethereum_miners_are_buying_all_the_gpus/
Maybe AMD should couple the Radeon 56 with Vive and/or Rift packs. Also Rx580 as well. You don't want a new market to stagnant and the above does not help. If AMD can get more VR units since Nvidia lower end cards are also having the same issue with miners that will help them as well as the new growing market. AMD selling to miners helps in killing the pc gaming market and new VR market. Selling to gamers/VR market has a longer benefit as far as I can see.
That's AMD's prerogative. Doesn't mean the rest of the industry will follow suit. AMD doesn't have the money to split their R&D and product lines like NVIDIA does.I think he did a good job in the video even if it's not entirely inerrant he does make several good points. I do recall AMD making many bold claims about Vega's gaming abilities in December 2016 and it appears ever since then, AMD changed course and went after Cryptocurrency Mining instead.
August 18, 2017: AMD Releases Cryptocurrency Mining Driver, May Raise Vega Prices
Something Wrong At Radeon
Good luck building a VR PC: Ethereum miners are buying all the GPUs
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/...r_pc_ethereum_miners_are_buying_all_the_gpus/
Ive had no trouble buying geforce 1080s. Just bought 3 this past week.
1080 is perfect for vr so it's ok.The 1080 kind of sucks at mining so that is the main reason you can easily get them, try getting a 1070 these days.
The 1080 kind of sucks at mining so that is the main reason you can easily get them, try getting a 1070 these days.
Only sux in Eth mining, all other alt coins, its trumps the 1070 by a large margin. Zcash its like 25-30% faster than a 1070. and Zcash is just as profitable as Eth right now. All those penny coins, also its about 25 to 30% faster than a 1070.
Everyone is so hung up on Eth (because it "hot") they don't realize the potential of the other coins. Not only are they easy to mine right now, their profitability will only increase form this point on wards.
1070 EVGA's easy to get actually, so yeah your correlation on mining is correct but still can get them and EVGA's cards are the best to get for gaming.
I personally dont care much for EVGA, seen far to many fail, so for me I would pass on them. Will see if these other alt coins gain traction but for now seems the 1080 is not in demand by the miners, that may change at some point tho. I personally wish someone would make mining cards tho so the video card market could go back to normal.
mining cards won't change anything, the reason why graming cards are in high demand even though Asus and another created mining cards, is because of the resale value of the gaming cards. Mining cards will have no resale value. Even if production increases with gaming cards, I doubt that will change anything either. Miners will just buy more, its a bottomless pit cause for them its cash, ever card they can get, is pretty much 100% to 125% turnaround in a year. Possibly even more if we look at coin maturity.
EVGA cards are probably the best, yeah they had a couple bad apples at launch with poorly placed heat sinks and thermal pads, but that happens at times, over all their support is top notch. Personally never had an issue with any of their cards, but then again I have never a card fail on me without my intervention of overclocking and changing things in bios and what not.
Resale value tho has limits, when people try to sell these cards by the truck load it will crash the value fast. I mean when I picked up my second 290x was after the bitcoin craze and people were selling them left and right and I got it super cheap. So I agree at first the resale value would be a good reason, but unless you sell it in the first wave or so the resale value plummets pretty quick. I doubt the two guys that bought my 290x cards will get more then 100 bucks for them when they try to dump them. I think you will see the same thing when people start dumping there 1070 cards when ETH becomes more difficult. I know you think many will keep them and mine alt coins but I think many will still dump the cards rather then do other coins unless 1 jumps up quite a bit in value. But I think if someone made a card that had at least 1.5x the mining rate of a video card people would switch I think. Guess will see in a month or two as I think the difficulty increase should hit by then. (forgive me if I am wrong on the timing as I dont follow ETH super close)
Worst case scenario, PC gamers will have to migrate to consoles.
The 1080 kind of sucks at mining so that is the main reason you can easily get them, try getting a 1070 these days.
Yeah, no. Mining won't crash overnight the way things happened with Bitcoin. Circumstances are completely different now. At the time of the flood of GPUs after BTC, there was nothing else immediately until LTC showed up. BTC was also more of an unknown, now it's entrenched.Resale value tho has limits, when people try to sell these cards by the truck load it will crash the value fast. I mean when I picked up my second 290x was after the bitcoin craze and people were selling them left and right and I got it super cheap. So I agree at first the resale value would be a good reason, but unless you sell it in the first wave or so the resale value plummets pretty quick. I doubt the two guys that bought my 290x cards will get more then 100 bucks for them when they try to dump them. I think you will see the same thing when people start dumping there 1070 cards when ETH becomes more difficult. I know you think many will keep them and mine alt coins but I think many will still dump the cards rather then do other coins unless 1 jumps up quite a bit in value. But I think if someone made a card that had at least 1.5x the mining rate of a video card people would switch I think. Guess will see in a month or two as I think the difficulty increase should hit by then. (forgive me if I am wrong on the timing as I dont follow ETH super close)
Yeah, no. Mining won't crash overnight the way things happened with Bitcoin. Circumstances are completely different now. At the time of the flood of GPUs after BTC, there was nothing else immediately until LTC showed up. BTC was also more of an unknown, now it's entrenched.
Now there are thousands of altcoins and if ETH profitability takes a hit people will just move to other coins. The magic flood of cheap GPUs that casual observers just assume will happen, is never going to happen. Just because you throw a few ice cubes into one end of a pool doesn't mean the whole pool inmediately gets colder and people start jumping out.
Mining specific GPUs are also a no-go, and you can't get them outside of China anyway. And the large Chinese superfarms are ignoring them which tells you something. They prefer the regular gaming cards; I've talked to some of these marble mouthed shitheads and picked their brains when selling my GPUs.
Mining is here to stay, I'm afraid .. at least the 1080 Ti is still MSRP and that's really the best gaming card anyway.
A lot of bulk card purchases might (again might) slow down when Ethereum goes proof of stake. Even though it only takes a few minutes to mine something new, what might happen is that it can shift what card is bought to mine with. Maybe next card to sell out might be the 1080, don't know.
Even though it's been stated quite a few times that there are other coins that are profitable, or easier to mine other coins and trade for BTC, that requires work. Something that many people might not want to mess with.