The Vega Pre-Order Thread

Why will you pre-order AMD Vega?

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Since I have one of the best (top binned 1080ti) Asus Poseidon I am going to pass on the Vega line. But they are decent after reading reviews.

I'm just glad I dont have to deal with the preorder/release day fiasco like I am doing woth my 1950x right now sigh...

Good luck Vega fans. I wish as little pain as possible in your quest to get one.
 
ronan_zj said:
A LOT OF COMBOS ARE UP AT NEWEGG, ALL IN STOCK
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Combos are up, but don't need the monitors or cpu/motherboard - and while the prices are good if you are going to be building a rig anyway, they aren't good enough to consider reselling to even break even - so...I wait.

Darn it AMD, I thought you said you were delaying so you would have enough stock -- I never even saw the 1080TI liquid cooled in stock anywhere.
 
yeah annoying, I'm not going to buy one of the combos. Where are the standalone liquid cooled cards? I haven't seen one in stock yet.
 
Archaea said:
Combos are up, but don't need the monitors or cpu/motherboard - and while the prices are good if you are going to be building a rig anyway, they aren't good enough to consider reselling to even break even - so...I wait.

Darn it AMD, I thought you said you were delaying so you would have enough stock -- I never even saw the 1080TI liquid cooled in stock anywhere.
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The Motherboard / CPU combos will be easy to offload!
 
Am I correct in understanding that Vega 64 is not really a gaming focused card? All of the reviews I've seen today seemed underwhelming. Genuinely curious why anyone would want these, a 1080 is faster and much more power efficient. Am I missing something?
 
Sprayingmango said:
Am I correct in understanding that Vega 64 is not really a gaming focused card? All of the reviews I've seen today seemed underwhelming. Genuinely curious why anyone would want these, a 1080 is faster and much more power efficient. Am I missing something?
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Not really. Day late and a dollar short, unfortunately. Only thing Vega has going for it is Freesync.
 
tacos4me said:
Not really. Day late and a dollar short, unfortunately. Only thing Vega has going for it is Freesync.
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Gotcha. I'm definitely going to a 1950X Threadripper and Asus X399 board soon, I was hoping to jump to a full AMD rig but looks like I'll be holding on to my 1080 Tis for now.
 
Freesync is a mighty big ace - as evidenced by the poll at the start of the thread. Freesync monitors are available 5:1 from newegg over gsync monitors, and they cost $200-$300 less than equivalently equipped gsync monitors.

The performance of the Vega is right on par with 1080 level - which if you've been following along -- is all it was ever supposed to be. So no surprises there. AMD typically has higher power draw and subsequently greater heat generation than Nvidia -- they have for the last several generations. Nvidia is the outright performance leader right now, but with freesync capability the ball as moved - it's no longer only about max FPS. If you are in freesync range - your gaming experience will be smooth as butter.
 
CocaColaFizz said:
The Motherboard / CPU combos will be easy to offload!
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I wonder about that. The combo packs are $1309 right? $700 liquid cooled Vega + $609 for Ryzen CPU + motherboard.

You might have trouble getting $600 IMO -- especially after paying eBay 10% + paypal 3%. Ryzen CPU prices keep dropping through the floor. I've seen the 1700 for $250, the 1700x for $279, and the 1800x for $350.

Lately I've been trying to sell a Ryzen 1700 and ASRock Taichi 370x and 16 GB DDR4 RAM for $500 at work and haven't gotten a bite.
 
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Archaea said:
Freesync is a mighty big ace - as evidenced by the poll at the start of the thread. Freesync monitors are available 5:1 from newegg over gsync monitors, and they cost $200-$300 less than equivalently equipped gsync monitors.

The performance of the Vega is right on par with 1080 level - which if you've been following along -- is all it was ever supposed to be. So no surprises there. AMD typically has higher power draw and subsequently greater heat generation than Nvidia -- they have for the last several generations. Nvidia is the outright performance leader right now, but with freesync capability the ball as moved - it's no longer only about max FPS. If you are in freesync range - your gaming experience will be smooth as butter.
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You're right.
Most people who are upset have high end nvidia card already but they wanted more.
I have a freesync monitor and mid-range nvidia card. So vega is very appealing to me.
 
It looks like they had about 10 of the liquid cooled 64 cards in stock on Newegg today.
 
I got the WC Vega 64 and Samsung Monitor. I was not really interested in 21:9 but I wanted the WCed card and If I don't get it now I might not get it. So bent over and took it like a man... at least I am getting what I would like. Got my 1800X/Taichi/Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500Gb/1000W EVGA PSU.
 
I'm probably going to grab Vega but I think I'll wait for the AIB custom versions - with Asus ROG being at the top of my list unless I see something notably better from Sapphire, Gigabyte, or MSI. The enhanced cooling, better power/VRM, better aesthetics, and likely unlocked BIOS seems to be the way to get the most out of Vega. I wonder when these will start going up for ordering?

Oh one thing noteworthy about the bundles - they seem a bit limited to me. For instance, why is the only CPU / Mobo discount part of Ryzen 7? Like many others, I am looking at Threadripper, so why doesn't AMD allow an even bigger discount if you buy a Vega card alongside} Threadripper CPU and/or Mobo? Sure, leave Ryzen but just make a larger discount option for the more expensive Threadripper! Likewise, I think the FreeSync monitor discount is decent, but... why limit it to a single monitor like that? It would be nice to have a range of high end FreeSync monitors. Though I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't heard anything about the new "FreeSync 2" monitors and whatnot alongside Vega - this would be a place for Vega to shine and really showcase a great experience with HDR / Local dimming monitors to compete with the best of what GSync has to offer at a lower price and wider sizes/resolution options.

It seems that there are lots of ways that AMD could capitalize on their strengths - they really hit it out of the park with Threadripper but Vega is a much more potentially limited success, so really showcasing reasons to buy them would be a good plan.
 
Just pre-ordered a sapphire vega 64. About $115 more expensive than the $599 US price. You lucky guys always get electronics cheap:sick:
It's exactly the same price as a comparable 1080 though. Not too bad I guess:rolleyes:
I'd love to get a Asus turbo series but it seems unlikely they're doing it on AMD cards.
My itx case sort of need blower fan design, what a pity. Definitely want an asus card to pair up with my asus monitor and motherboard!
 
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Archaea said:
So are there just no more limited edition silver cards - period --- unless you buy a bundle pack? Nothing seems to be hitting nowinstock except bundles or black cards for the last couple days.
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rxvega64/
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Limited edition Vega was only for launch day according OCUK, and it should no longer be offered by any retailer/etailer once shipments are cleared, so now vanilla black vega 64 replaces the LE price and jump straight from 499$ to 599$.. its now the official MSRP for Vega 64 but now it includes two free games. The original 499$ price for the black vega64 was only intended for launch day shipments with a rebate made for AMD to retailers.
 
Araxie said:
Limited edition Vega was only for launch day according OCUK, and it should no longer be offered by any retailer/etailer once shipments are cleared, so now vanilla black vega 64 replaces the LE price and jump straight from 499$ to 599$.. its now the official MSRP for Vega 64 but now it includes two free games. The original 499$ price for the black vega64 was only intended for launch day shipments with a rebate made for AMD to retailers.
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Yuck. I didn't know that.

And there was only one single card offered at $499 on launch day that I saw anywhere. A MSI on Newegg. Every other card I was aware of was $599. I signed up for all the notices from newegg and now in stock.

There doesn't seem to be any liquid cooled black cards either eh?

This launch, and my inability to simply buy a watercooled card is to the point were I'm considering just selling my three freesync monitors and buying a single gsync monitor for my 1080tis. This is pretty much nonsense. Higher prices than advertised, or unwanted bundle deals that aren't really even deals. That monitor or motherboard/CPU options are cheaper at microcenter without the coupon codes.

I should have kept my darn Fury X cards.

Do we know will Vega 56 come in silver on August 28? Will it be $499 now? I'd consider a pair of 56 cards for crossfire, but the fact crossfire isn't even working on Vega now has me confused and skeptical too.

Once again. Lame lame launch.
 
Archaea said:
Yuck. I didn't know that.

And there was only one single card offered at $499 on launch day that I saw anywhere. A MSI on Newegg. Every other card I was aware of was $599. I signed up for all the notices from newegg and now in stock.

There doesn't seem to be any liquid cooled black cards either eh?

This launch, and my inability to simply buy a watercooled card is to the point were I'm considering just selling my three freesync monitors and buying a single gsync monitor. This is pretty much nonsense. Higher prices than advertised or unwanted bundle deals that aren't really even deals. That monitor or motherboard/CPU options are cheaper at microcenter without the coupon codes.

I should have kept my darn Fury X cards.

Do we know will Vega 56 come in silver on August 28? Will it be $499 now? I'd consider a pair of 56 cards for crossfire, but the fact crossfire isn't even working on Vega now has me confused and skeptical too.

Once again. Lame lame launch.
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Ultra wide Gsync option should kinda mimic your experience with triple panel as you maintain similar aspect ratio but without the annoying bezels, 5 years ago I tried to do triple panel, bezels took me away from it, even modded the panels to remove bezels and keep them as close as possible and it was just a nope to me.
 
Yeah I may just skip Vega at this point and stick with my Fury. I planned on getting a card day one but there has been no stock of the water cooled model at all. I had alerts setup on nowinstock and nothing showed up, it was only available in bundles. Losing interest I guess, if i can't get it around launch I'd rather just wait for a sale.
 
x3sphere said:
Yeah I may just skip Vega at this point and stick with my Fury. I planned on getting a card day one but there has been no stock of the water cooled model at all. I had alerts setup on nowinstock and nothing showed up, it was only available in bundles. Losing interest I guess, if i can't get it around launch I'd rather just wait for a sale.
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in a year it'll probably be half the price ($300-400is for watercooled). that's how the Fury X were.

What sucks is the waiting in the meantime - especially since I sold my Fury X pair like a dummy before I spent time with the 1080TI to verify it was an upgrade.
 
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Araxie said:
Ultra wide Gsync option should kinda mimic your experience with triple panel as you maintain similar aspect ratio but without the annoying bezels, 5 years ago I tried to do triple panel, bezels took me away from it, even modded the panels to remove bezels and keep them as close as possible and it was just a nope to me.
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If there was a 38" gsync monitor right now I'd jump. I had the 35" acer and felt the vertical realestate seemed to short - having just come from a Dell 3014 with a 2560x1600 res, and also trying a 32" Omen at the same time with a 1440p res. The 35" widescreen was ~ equivalent to a 27" monitor vertically - and I'd been using the 30" dell for a couple years -- it just seemed too short. I'm afraid I'd have the same gripe now. (especially since right now my displays are 81" across -- so probably two gripes, height and width).

I loved what the 35" widescreen did for new games at the time....at least games that supported the FOV properly (which wasn't enough titles)

However, I didn't like it for desktop use at all. If you opened a window it was always goofy to have it maximized with tons of white space so you'd have to use windows snap to feature to take up half of the screen on the left or right. But then any window you were working on was forcing you to look left or right all the time instead of straight ahead. I think that's why I personally like three monitors the best. My primary work focus can be straight forward, and I still have easy snap to function in windows, or can drag something to the left and right monitors as well.

Oh and with three monitors - I don't think anyone could fail to be absolutely impressed with something like Star Wars Battlefront flying or Battlefield 1 flying. It's drop your jaw impressive to have your entire peripheral vision (and beyond) filled with the modern graphics these engines are capable of --- specifically for flying or driving titles! I have a 135" nice, high quality projector with a nice sound system (7.1.4 Dolby Atmos system), --- and yet for gaming the three HP Omen's on a title with a FOV that supports the eyefinity well and my little desktop speakers --- is just way more impressive!!!
 
Archaea said:
If there was a 38" gsync monitor right now I'd jump. I had the 35" acer and felt the vertical realestate seemed to short - having just come from a Dell 3014 with a 2560x1600 res, and also trying a 32" Omen at the same time with a 1440p res. The 35" widescreen was ~ equivalent to a 27" monitor vertically - and I'd been using the 30" dell for a couple years -- it just seemed too short. I'm afraid I'd have the same gripe now. (especially since right now my displays are 81" across -- so probably two gripes, height and width).

I loved what the 35" widescreen did for new games at the time....at least games that supported the FOV properly (which wasn't enough titles)

However, I didn't like it for desktop use at all. If you opened a window it was always goofy to have it maximized with tons of white space so you'd have to use windows snap to feature to take up half of the screen on the left or right. But then any window you were working on was forcing you to look left or right all the time instead of straight ahead. I think that's why I personally like three monitors the best. My primary work focus can be straight forward, and I still have easy snap to function in windows, or can drag something to the left and right monitors as well.

Oh and with three monitors - I don't think anyone could fail to be absolutely impressed with something like Star Wars Battlefront flying or Battlefield 1 flying. It's drop your jaw impressive to have your entire peripheral vision (and beyond) filled with the modern graphics these engines are capable of --- specifically for flying or driving titles! I have a 135" nice, high quality projector with a nice sound system (7.1.4 Dolby Atmos system), --- and yet for gaming the three HP Omen's on a title with a FOV that supports the eyefinity well and my little desktop speakers --- is just way more impressive!!!
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Acer have a nice ultrawide Curved 37.5" 3840x1600 IPS 10 bit Gsync (40-75hz) XR382CQK yeah.. an expensive one.. but cheaper than the LG 38UC99 Freesync with equal specs so I think not bad at all...
 
Araxie said:
Acer have a nice ultrawide Curved 37.5" 3840x1600 IPS 10 bit Gsync (40-75hz) XR382CQK yeah.. an expensive one.. but cheaper than the LG 38UC99 Freesync with equal specs so I think not bad at all...
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that one is freesync :(

To my knowledge there isn't yet a 37.5" gsync. I'd probably buy it right now - if there were. If I'm missing a model somewhere let me know.
 
Araxie said:
Acer have a nice ultrawide Curved 37.5" 3840x1600 IPS 10 bit Gsync (40-75hz) XR382CQK yeah.. an expensive one.. but cheaper than the LG 38UC99 Freesync with equal specs so I think not bad at all...
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Holy crap, 3840x1600. Thats a dream monitor right there, too bad no GSYNC version.
 
Yeah, that 38" is the main reason I have a AMD card currently (have a 38UC99). I'd probably jump ship back to Nvidia if a G-Sync variant were available.

There seems to be a lack of new monitors lately, especially on the G-Sync front.
 
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Hell I'd be willing to give up GSYNC for 3840x1600 at 37.5". A GTX 1080 Ti should be able to keep the frame rates north of 75fps (refresh rate is 75hz on that Acer monitor)
 
primetime said:
Now that IS the real question.....The Vega56 is absolutely worth the listed msrp from all the data i have seen. (Even i would be tempted)
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You would be a fool if you didn't unload that 580 on ebay (assuming its the 8GB card) for ~$330-350 and grab a VEga 56 for basically free Sean. Hell I should be able to fetch ~$220 for my remaining 290s not including selling the blocks.
 
ccityinstaller said:
You would be a fool if you didn't unload that 580 on ebay (assuming its the 8GB card) for ~$330-350 and grab a VEga 56 for basically free Sean. Hell I should be able to fetch ~$220 for my remaining 290s not including selling the blocks.
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shit you got a point.....its funny bestbuy is selling the same model for 350 currently (100 more than i paid lol) and yea of course its the 8gb vram.....dang you got me thinking now! it be a cheap upgrade even if i sold it for just 300
 
primetime said:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=RX-580P8DFWR&_sop=15

Holly shit? Im i seeing this right? My card STARTS on ebay for 400 bucks? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-am...hics-card-black-white/5859901.p?skuId=5859901 Just wow lol:) Probably sell it in 5 mins for 330
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A friend told me a better way of gauging the market value would be to go to the filters and check "Sold listings" only. Best Buy seems to have no problem selling for $350. Give yourself some margin. :)
 
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