I only owned a Celeron 400A in high school. I built a bunch of others though, mostly Pentium 3 450s.
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper Unboxing and Install
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I only owned a Celeron 400A in high school. I built a bunch of others though, mostly Pentium 3 450s.
Yep, I'm well aware they did that for a while.
I have a P2 slot CPU as a paperweight someplace in my office.
As another poster said, it would be hard to fit 4096 pins on a slot connector like that old style.
It would have to be updated from that.... probably multiple rows of much smaller pins in the slots.
Maybe 4 slots with 1024 pins per slot.
ETA: I'm sure that one of the big reasons the slot CPU packages were dropped was problems with
signal quality. With the high operating frequencies of today's CPUs, the signal interface is critical.
Still.... where there's a will, there's a way. Maybe they keep the LGA interface but they further
improve the socket so the pins are never directly exposed to the end user. Maybe they do something
like have the CPU slide in from the side instead of drop in from the top.
ETA#2: Was thinking about this.... they could have the CPU slide in from the side and push out a
socket cover on the other side. Then to remove the CPU, you push the socket cover back in to
push out the CPU the way it came in. That way the pins are always covered and hidden from
the end user.
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Ahh, the Slot A days, when I was poor and young and untainted by rotten.com. I still have a T-bird 700 that will do 1000+ with the GFD I made. The joys of working for a wholesaler back then. Just need a motherboard 
I do miss:
Having an affordable alternative to play with.
Actually having to build your WC loop components.
Making random calls and chatting up Lyle to get free internet.
I don't miss:
Fiddling with cache dividers while overclocking.
Actually having to build your WC loop components.
Making random calls and chatting up Lyle to get free internet.
The cache was the whole reason for the slot era, FYI. They needed near package L2 in quantities they couldn't achieve in package, and a daughter board with fast RAM packages was the only way. That T-bird 700 would do 1100 at 2/3 cache divider in an Abit KX133. Too bad that MB puked it's caps.... twice.
Shit, I remember my K-6 III 450 @ 600 (water, some Alpha cooler with a shroud soldered on) on an Epox Mvp3-G5. It wasn't the best chipset, but L3 wasn't a thing in consumer space back then, so the MB had the L2. Since the CPU had a 256k L2 onboard, the 512K L2 on the MB became L3 cache. *god ray noise*
Man, it was nice lagging out P3s in SC at LANs. I LAN'd at a buddies in Houston who lived in a "Walden Internet Village". Think 10Mb or 100Mb symetrical internet back around Y2K..... yea. I was young, any win was a winning win.
I did a 7700K build recently because I couldn't find a decent M-ATX x370 MB (my main box is in a Silverstone FT-03, fucking awesome case. And no, Biostar will never get another dime from me.). I play with 1080p60 and 1080p120 video from my GoPro, but also game regularly on top of playing with VMs for work when the pair of CS2100s busy. Would have gone with a 1700X if I could find/wait for a decent MB, but my Maximus IV Gene-Z finally quit so I ran out of time. It was running a 2700K @ 5.0 since 2011 (water, of course), so I can't fault it. (that CPU is running in my wifes H67 build without issue. I got that 2700K for $125 to my door with retail edge and the MB was open box for $150 from Newegg back when you still got accesories. 8GB of DDR3-1600 was 30 bux back then. Hate me later.)
I look forward to refreshing with an AMD TR cpu around New Years, too bad I won't be getting an AMD GPU to match Navi better Rox my Sox. I also look forward to the comparison of the 16-18 core X-series Intel vs. the 16 core TR. Looking at the stock clocks, that will be interesting.
Fair winds
I do miss:
Having an affordable alternative to play with.
Actually having to build your WC loop components.
Making random calls and chatting up Lyle to get free internet.
I don't miss:
Fiddling with cache dividers while overclocking.
Actually having to build your WC loop components.
Making random calls and chatting up Lyle to get free internet.
The cache was the whole reason for the slot era, FYI. They needed near package L2 in quantities they couldn't achieve in package, and a daughter board with fast RAM packages was the only way. That T-bird 700 would do 1100 at 2/3 cache divider in an Abit KX133. Too bad that MB puked it's caps.... twice.
Shit, I remember my K-6 III 450 @ 600 (water, some Alpha cooler with a shroud soldered on) on an Epox Mvp3-G5. It wasn't the best chipset, but L3 wasn't a thing in consumer space back then, so the MB had the L2. Since the CPU had a 256k L2 onboard, the 512K L2 on the MB became L3 cache. *god ray noise*
Man, it was nice lagging out P3s in SC at LANs. I LAN'd at a buddies in Houston who lived in a "Walden Internet Village". Think 10Mb or 100Mb symetrical internet back around Y2K..... yea. I was young, any win was a winning win.
I did a 7700K build recently because I couldn't find a decent M-ATX x370 MB (my main box is in a Silverstone FT-03, fucking awesome case. And no, Biostar will never get another dime from me.). I play with 1080p60 and 1080p120 video from my GoPro, but also game regularly on top of playing with VMs for work when the pair of CS2100s busy. Would have gone with a 1700X if I could find/wait for a decent MB, but my Maximus IV Gene-Z finally quit so I ran out of time. It was running a 2700K @ 5.0 since 2011 (water, of course), so I can't fault it. (that CPU is running in my wifes H67 build without issue. I got that 2700K for $125 to my door with retail edge and the MB was open box for $150 from Newegg back when you still got accesories. 8GB of DDR3-1600 was 30 bux back then. Hate me later.)
I look forward to refreshing with an AMD TR cpu around New Years, too bad I won't be getting an AMD GPU to match
Navi better Rox my Sox. I also look forward to the comparison of the 16-18 core X-series Intel vs. the 16 core TR. Looking at the stock clocks, that will be interesting.Fair winds
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LoL
I had a pentium 2 slot processor, screw those things...
The install for thread ripper isn't so bad IMO. The process of removing it from the box is absurd lol.
If, and this is a big if considering ryzen, there is a solid matx board I'll build a thread ripper.
If not, I may end up with coffee lake -_-
I had a pentium 2 slot processor, screw those things...
The install for thread ripper isn't so bad IMO. The process of removing it from the box is absurd lol.
If, and this is a big if considering ryzen, there is a solid matx board I'll build a thread ripper.
If not, I may end up with coffee lake -_-
>>The install for thread ripper isn't so bad IMO.
I think we would all consider Kyle to be an expert working with CPUs & mobos.
If he accidentally destroyed a TR4 mobo just putting the socket cover on, I'd say there's a problem.
It should not be that delicate and easy to trash the socket.
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I like to keep 55 gallons of it handy. Never know when you might need some.
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You sure you are not making a light blue product in a RV out in the desert somewhere?
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We're talking about how many pins stuffed in that socket? 4100 (4094 if you wanna be a prick about it). They're gonna be delicate because they're gonna be small. There isn't anything they could be made of that would make them stronger. At least nothing I know that would conduct as well.
AMD went out of their way to design that socket so you wouldn't be touching, or doing anything near the pins..
>>They're gonna be delicate because they're gonna be small.
Thanks for the amazing insight that over 4000 pins in a few square inches are going to be small.
>>AMD went out of their way to design that socket so you wouldn't be touching, or doing anything near the pins..
And yet we have an industry expert who damaged the pins by accident on day one.....
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What's your point? He dropped the socket cover on it. Any other shit you all want to complain about? Gravity don't give a shit if you're an industry expert or not.
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Worthy of noting, it was NOT installing that gave me the issue, it was re-installing the socket cover.
If you care to read the posts in this thread in context instead of being a rude smart-ass....
As noted in posts above, the point is that the TR4 socket is too fragile and future designs could & should be designed to be less prone to customer damage.
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OK children, take you bickering elsewhere. This is your one warning.
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It's not really overkill for a gaming rig since it's inferior for gaming.
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It's overkill in that I won't be using it for anything but gaming. I won't be doing any multi threaded tasks, video encoding and so on. It's like buying a 1 ton diesel pickup truck even tho you're not gonna do any towing. You just buy it cause 900 ft/lbs if torque is bad ass..... Like a mustache with titties.