Shaav
Limp Gawd
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OK, I know most people go team blue and green, and I know most people bought the black case. But I can't be the only silver case owner who ordered a window kit that can't wait for the brushed aluminium Limited Edition RX Vega (assuming price/performance is reasonable):
I am afraid Vega is bad for SFF due to it's power consumption. Right now it looks like it'll compete with 1080, it's 295 Watt vs 180. The difference is huge for SFF build. If you want to go with Vega - you'd better wait for Vega Nano, I assume it'll be around 200 WattOK, I know most people go team blue and green, and I know most people bought the black case. But I can't be the only silver case owner who ordered a window kit that can't wait for the brushed aluminium Limited Edition RX Vega (assuming price/performance is reasonable):
I fully agree power is an issue, however, it will be pulling the same as most aftermarket 1080ti, 980ti and fury X cards and I've seen plenty of those in the Dan A4.I am afraid Vega is bad for SFF due to it's power consumption. Right now it looks like it'll compete with 1080, it's 295 Watt vs 180. The difference is huge for SFF build. If you want to go with Vega - you'd better wait for Vega Nano, I assume it'll be around 200 Watt
you'd better wait for Vega Nano, I assume it'll be around 200 Watt
Can we put this in Sentry and water cool it?
OK, I know most people go team blue and green, and I know most people bought the black case. But I can't be the only silver case owner who ordered a window kit that can't wait for the brushed aluminium Limited Edition RX Vega (assuming price/performance is reasonable):
The chip & architecture seem capable of ludicrous overclocks, or undervolting, depending on your priorities (based on FE reviews and promise of better power management as drivers catch up to this platform). I'd speculate (generally) a blower card is thermal rather than VRM limited, especially in this arch. All the deep dive / teardown power section reviews will come with benchies when the press embargo date arrives. Tough being patient, especially when you know the brushed aluminum ones are limited edition ...but most of us are waiting a while longer for the SFXv2 case regardlessI'd love one of these as well. The design is a match made in heaven for the silver case. Hopefully the power draw will be manageable. To my mind it should be, especially as this is a blower card, but other opinions are always welcome.
Still available??If anyone in the US is interested in a v1 case PM me. I have one that I only opened to inspect for damage. After that it went back into a box to wait for a build that never came to fruition.
Very nice, looking forward to your cooling results when you get the am4 bracket. Also, do you have your ram at 3200? I have the same ram but a different motherboard, you might want to check out my post here if you are having any bother...Hey guys.
I have been lurking this thread for a long time, while Asrock got their act together and finally released their X370 Fatal1ty Gaming/ITX motherboard, so i could build my Ryzen in this case.
Today the parts finally arrived and only thing i am missing is the Cryorig C7 AM4 bracket in the mail, but i was too excited and had to show you guys right away.
Asrock X370 Fatal1ty Gaming/ITX
Ryzen 1700
Gigabyte 1080TI
Corsair LPX 3200mhz Ram 16Gb
Corsair SF600 PSU
I can't really do any temps atm, because i cannot put on the sidepanel bc of the Wraith cooler, but i will get right to it, once the bracket arrives.
Check out pics below.
Added an LED strip to the bottom after the first pictures:
Very nice, looking forward to your cooling results when you get the am4 bracket. Also, do you have your ram at 3200? I have the same ram but a different motherboard, you might want to check out my post here if you are having any bother...
Pr0Pain
If you want to close the case while you wait for the am4 bracket you can do so by just replacing the fan on the wraith cooler with the fan of the cryorig c7.
It should be easy and work.
I had to cut 11mm off it to use with a 14mm thick noctua fan. That allows for a 5mm gap to the case.. not worth it as it opens the vapour chamber in the cooler but it worked fine for a couple of months.Pr0Pain
If you want to close the case while you wait for the am4 bracket you can do so by just replacing the fan on the wraith cooler with the fan of the cryorig c7.
It should be easy and work.
I had to cut 11mm off it to use with a 14mm thick noctua fan. That allows for a 5mm gap to the case.. not worth it as it opens the vapour chamber in the cooler but it worked fine for a couple of months.
Hey guys, which PSU are you using? I think my Corsair SF450 is too loud and I am looking for a solution that would help me to get rid of its noise.
SF600
is there something similar with ryzen CPUs already? I only saw one Ryzen on that list, but the values given there feel very strange to me (0,5V 3,2GHz and still running at about 80°C is quite hot imo)
Hey Pr0Pain, that is such a beautiful build. I've followed this thread for a while without posting. I would like to ask you and any others who've had experience with the Dan A4-SFX case a question.
Are any of you using a CPU like the 7700k or similar in your Dan cases? Are you able to overclock it? If so, did you de-lid, and what are your recommended coolers?
I want to build a small, portable super music computer for live performance with .vst softsynths which benefit greatly from CPU speed to replace my current 2010 Macbook Pro which is comparably slow. A laptop is maybe the more logical choice for portability, but I can't get over how more econimal a mini-ITX build would be for an end result with the same specs.
My question: If I were to delid a 7700k or the upcoming 6-core 8700k and install it in a Dan A4-SFX, do any of you experienced builders think it would be possible to cool the CPU adequately in the Dan A4-SFX if the CPU is overclocked for maximum speed to drive the software synthesizers?
Thanks for your time.
is there something similar with ryzen CPUs already? I only saw one Ryzen on that list, but the values given there feel very strange to me (0,5V 3,2GHz and still running at about 80°C is quite hot imo)
ah right that 20° extra could explain it - I was wondering, as it is only listed as "R5 1600", rather than "1600X"I'm afraid not. There is only 2-3 itx boards for ryzen and only 2 coolers fitting AM4. Also, if the ryzen in the list is an X variant, it has 20 degrees added on top of the real temp, to help with fan performance. Only the 1700 shows the correct temp and I get around 65 degrees with the stock cooler and no side panel.
The short answer is you will not be able to run the 7700K in the dan a4 without either delidding or underclocking/undervolting it
That voltage isn't right, I think it's a typo. My 1700 Ryzen is in the list if you clear all the filters. It runs perfectly with the noctua L9a cooler, hits 69 degrees, actual temp, with prime95. No messing around delidding etc. required. Check for some benchmarks with your software and Ryzen but otherwise I would say go for it.is there something similar with ryzen CPUs already? I only saw one Ryzen on that list, but the values given there feel very strange to me (0,5V 3,2GHz and still running at about 80°C is quite hot imo)
That voltage isn't right, I think it's a typo. My 1700 Ryzen is in the list if you clear all the filters. It runs perfectly with the noctua L9a cooler, hits 69 degrees, actual temp, with prime95. No messing around delidding etc. required. Check for some benchmarks with your software and Ryzen but otherwise I would say go for it.
Running stock, 3.2 on all cores, no fan duct or anything, noctua paste. Fan was at just under 2500, not too noisy for me when I do rendering. The temp never increases either, I ran it for over 2 hours and it kept to 69. I also have the I.O. shield in place too.For some reason I am having trouble finding your result on the google sheet. What voltage and clockspeeds were you running at? Also, did you have a fan duct for the cpu?
From what I read on the google worksheet, if you are really lucky, you 'may' be able to get up to 4.4-4.5GHz for the i7 7700k. Realistically speaking, probably the non-turbo 4.2 GHz undervolted and delidded is much more doable. Also seems like a simple fan duct to even just the NHL-9i is better.
Tek Everything has put up a new video showing that the Noctua NHL-9a is better than the NHL-9i variant by 2-4C. Cooling is even better with a mounted 120mm slim Noctua fan. Just food for thought especially for Ryzen builders.
For further data proof that there is not too much variance between a CryOrig C7 and a Noctua NH-L9i, there's this fairly recent video testing on a slim console-itx case with the i7 7700K.
Yeah, i7 7700K just seems to run hotter in general because Intel just did a terrible job with the TIM for them. 4.4GHz is doable for the i7 7700K if you have a higher tolerance for hotter temps. I7 4790K TIM is not done as poorly, though delidding still helps. I personally like having the cpu temps while gaming at around mid 70s on average at the worst.I'm doing 4,4 on a 4790k though. All at stock voltage etc. So I'll try fidling with it at some point. Hoping to do some more.
The short answer is you will not be able to run the 7700K in the dan a4 without either delidding or underclocking/undervolting it