DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Does anyone have an MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X in their A4-SFX? Does it fit OK?

I see in Dan's first post in the thread he lists it as maybe too tall and issue with power connectors, can anyone confirm?

Any info/pics from someone who has this card would be much appreciated! :)
I think it's the same as the 1080 armor, you need to bend the power cables hard at 90 degrees but it works fine with the stiff Corsair cables, no bulge at the top of the case.
 
Keep me updated, still debating if I should wait for coffee lake,7700k, or ryzen.

Apologies I forgot to subtract 20C, it averages around 62C in pubg and gets to 75C after 5 successive cinebench runs.

Edit: Still waiting on my new CPU fan to run with it. I'll have some prime95 runs when it come in. I also plan to add some foam of sorts to create a seal for intake. Ej24 has mention it does work well in most cases.
 
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Perhaps somebody can help me with my 50°C idle temperature problem on my ASUS STRIX 1070 which drives my currently nuts.

Modern graphiccards with their zero fan speed - nice idea, not so nice when you hit 50°C on idle and the card goes on/off/on/off all the time.
Using the MSI Afterburner to keep the fans at 30% (900rpm) on low temp is one solution - but not a permanent one for me since i don't like "workarounds".

Any idea if the additional 92mm fan place in the upcoming DAN case v2 might help, or which GTX 1070 graphic cards nowadays do not have a zero fan mode or can be programmed in the BIOS?
 
Perhaps somebody can help me with my 50°C idle temperature problem on my ASUS STRIX 1070 which drives my currently nuts.

Modern graphiccards with their zero fan speed - nice idea, not so nice when you hit 50°C on idle and the card goes on/off/on/off all the time.
Using the MSI Afterburner to keep the fans at 30% (900rpm) on low temp is one solution - but not a permanent one for me since i don't like "workarounds".

Any idea if the additional 92mm fan place in the upcoming DAN case v2 might help, or which GTX 1070 graphic cards nowadays do not have a zero fan mode or can be programmed in the BIOS?

I'm pretty sure you can turn off the zero fan mode with the Asus GPUTweak software, I've used it before.
On the other hand I like setting my own user defined fan curve with MSI Afterburner which scales the fan speed up with each degree increase so that I don't get a sudden jarring noise increase when the temps hit a threshold. I don't see this as a workaround but a massive improvement.

Edit: Search for 0db on this page.
https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1015950/
 
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Thanks, i tried both tuning programs. The MSI Afterburner is better since it allows fan curves with a starting point below 50% - the GPUTweak doesn't allow this.

That's why i don't use the 0db switch, the miminum fan speed is with 50% way to high. But true, the MSI afterburner is still a massive improvement.
 
It's not normal, maybe you have a defective cooler that doesn't transfer heat properly.
Do you have warranty?
My GTX 1070 FE will IDLE at those temps (50°C) and it doesn't matter, works fine.
 
Does anyone have an MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X in their A4-SFX? Does it fit OK?

I see in Dan's first post in the thread he lists it as maybe too tall and issue with power connectors, can anyone confirm?

Any info/pics from someone who has this card would be much appreciated! :)

If it is the same size as the Gaming X 1070, then yes. Just bend the wires from the PCi-E connectors as much as you can.

https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a...in-the-world.1799326/page-300#post-1043103705
 
Think I may have found a nexus low 7000, is there special mounting hardware needed to fit towards 1151 motherboard? And does anyone have 4mm standoffs they can sell me? Everything is from overseas and don't want to wait that long.
 
I will order the DAN HSLP-48 cooler as soon as it comes out. However in the mean time, I need to get a cooler for my Ryzen build. Since both NH-L9i and NH-L9a are compatible with AM4, which one do you guys think I should get for my Ryzen build? Is there any difference in performance between those?
 
Still debating about ryzen, anyone mod a lp53 to fit am4?
So a quick 20min prime95 run, at 1.15am :confused:, gave me 72 degrees Celsius. That's at the default 3.2 on all cores. There is no temperature offset on my 1700. That is immediately after installing, I expect temperatures to drop a bit once the tim spreads/settles a bit. Also I did a crazy tim application method which may not be optimal... I am pretty happy, it is a real no fuss solution, I'm sure I could drop the temps slightly with a duct too. Based on continued research, when gaming at 1440p or in any GPU bound scenario I see no benefit going with an i7. I am really happy with this setup!:)
 

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I will order the DAN HSLP-48 cooler as soon as it comes out. However in the mean time, I need to get a cooler for my Ryzen build. Since both NH-L9i and NH-L9a are compatible with AM4, which one do you guys think I should get for my Ryzen build? Is there any difference in performance between those?
They wouldn't make it bigger if it wasn't better. However, if you get the l9i you can put it on an Intel system or a Ryzen system once you have the free adaptor. Might be easier to sell at a later date? Honestly I think the l9a will be good enough for any Ryzen chip at stock including the 1800x. In fact I think the 1800x would be great in the Dan A4 as it is a great balance of high two-core boost and I think the all-core speed of 3.6 should be manageable too. That said if you are gaming I would say put the money extra money (1700, 1700x Vs 1800x) into your GPU instead.
 
They wouldn't make it bigger if it wasn't better. However, if you get the l9i you can put it on an Intel system or a Ryzen system once you have the free adaptor. Might be easier to sell at a later date? Honestly I think the l9a will be good enough for any Ryzen chip at stock including the 1800x. In fact I think the 1800x would be great in the Dan A4 as it is a great balance of high two-core boost and I think the all-core speed of 3.6 should be manageable too. That said if you are gaming I would say put the money extra money (1700, 1700x Vs 1800x) into your GPU instead.

Seeing your Ryzen build gives me hope that I may be able to have a 3.7GHz all-core Ryzen 1700 with my Dan A4 build. Worst case scenario I will just clock it at 3.6- 3.65GHz. I am in no rush though, so I may wait until Intel CoffeeLake or even Ryzen 2 comes out.
 
Seeing your Ryzen build gives me hope that I may be able to have a 3.7GHz all-core Ryzen 1700 with my Dan A4 build. Worst case scenario I will just clock it at 3.6- 3.65GHz. I am in no rush though, so I may wait until Intel CoffeeLake or even Ryzen 2 comes out.
The 1700 turbos to 3.7 on two cores at stock. I was going to try overclock to 3.6/3.7 on all cores too but I am not sure it will gain much if anything in gaming performance as it is already "turbo-ing" to that frequency on two cores? I haven't found any proper analysis...

Obviously it would give a big bost to non-game workloads but I am already very happy with the 1700s rendering performance. It is 2.4 times faster than my 2500k @ 4.5 in cinebench!
 
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I've seen many posts on VLP RAM modules. Yesterday i saw that the cryorig c7 has 32mm height without fan. While standard DDR4 RAM has 31.2mm. Am I right in the assumption that normal DDR4 RAM without heatspreader, like the g-skill fortis for example, will not rise above the c7? Thus a 140x15mm fan should be possible covering most of the board?

Has anyone tried that?
 
I've seen many posts on VLP RAM modules. Yesterday i saw that the cryorig c7 has 32mm height without fan. While standard DDR4 RAM has 31.2mm. Am I right in the assumption that normal DDR4 RAM without heatspreader, like the g-skill fortis for example, will not rise above the c7? Thus a 140x15mm fan should be possible covering most of the board?

Has anyone tried that?

Most of the posts on VLP RAM have to do with dondan's planned HSLP-48 heatsink. The idea there is to have a 48mm tall heatsink and put the fan underneath the fins, pulling through. Among the options proposed is being able to use a 120mm fan, but doing so will mean that the fan conflicts with the RAM on most modules- hence the VLP discussion.

The problem with the C7, in general, is how close your fan is going to be to the side of the case. You're basically 1-2mm short of the side, which is going to mean a lot of noise, especially on a 140mm fan.
 
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I've seen many posts on VLP RAM modules. Yesterday i saw that the cryorig c7 has 32mm height without fan. While standard DDR4 RAM has 31.2mm. Am I right in the assumption that normal DDR4 RAM without heatspreader, like the g-skill fortis for example, will not rise above the c7? Thus a 140x15mm fan should be possible covering most of the board?

Has anyone tried that?
If you look at the static pressure of the noctua 90mm and 120mm thin fans the 90mm is higher i think. Unless you want a fan to act over a larger area, like Dan's cooler, the smaller 90mm fans are just as good if not better. Air will always try to find the easiest path and that is not though a heatsink, most of the air will flow around the sides of the heatsink. That's my theory anyway.
 
Thats a pity. Because the C7 seems to have a bit more cooling power. But reading this i'll probably go with the noctua. I want as less noise as possible at idle. Don't really mind it while gaming.
 
Running prime95 now, total system is pulling 125watts at the wall.... System idles at 50watts. We will see where the temperature stabilises...
 
It stabilised at 68 degrees at 2500rpm after not long, I ran it for over two hours to confirm it wasn't slowly increasing. Ambient temperature was 23 degrees. I will do a final test and add it to the Google spreadsheet soon. Very happy overall :)
 
I've seen that the eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 could fit the case, that's great but would the Kingpin fits as well as the power connectors are at the end of the card ? It's more for curiosity than real interest... but who knows... ;-) Thanks !
 
It stabilised at 68 degrees at 2500rpm after not long, I ran it for over two hours to confirm it wasn't slowly increasing. Ambient temperature was 23 degrees. I will do a final test and add it to the Google spreadsheet soon. Very happy overall :)

Thanks for being thorough with testing. I am sure many others including me are interested in building a Ryzen 1700 build with the Dan A4.
 
Was there ever a temperature comparison of the LP53 + a9x14 vs Cryorig C7 + a9x14? I have both and I don't feel like swapping to the LP53 if there is minimal difference.
 
Thanks for being thorough with testing. I am sure many others including me are interested in building a Ryzen 1700 build with the Dan A4.
No problem, yea I think the Ryzen chips are a great fit for the Dan case. I suspect that the L9a would even cope with a 1800x, hopefully someone will try it! I suppose I could overclock too simulate an 1800x but I I want to do some gaming now that my system is setup nicely!

Unless you are playing CS:GO competitively and want super high FPS I see no reason to go with an Intel chip, it's just a bunch of hassle trying to keep the temperature under control.
 
I've seen that the eVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 could fit the case, that's great but would the Kingpin fits as well as the power connectors are at the end of the card ? It's more for curiosity than real interest... but who knows... ;-) Thanks !
While I don't recall if anyone has actually used it in their case yet, It should fit with a few caveats: You will have to mod the case to allow the power connectors to come in through the front of the case behind the front panel, and because of this, you will probably not be able to mount an ssd behind the front panel.
 
Anyone got a good link for the 26.6 version of prime95, just realised I have 26.5 even though the link said softonic link says 26.6. I know it probably won't make too much difference but still...
 
It's not normal, maybe you have a defective cooler that doesn't transfer heat properly.
Do you have warranty?
My GTX 1070 FE will IDLE at those temps (50°C) and it doesn't matter, works fine.

Hmm, maybe. My ASUS STRIX 1070 ramps up on idle to 54°C in the closed DAN case. Even now with rainy weather which brings 24°C room temperature.
 
Anyone know where to get 4mm standoffs? I just ordered and it says estimated shipping is over a month or so. Looking to get this build up next week once I receive cpu
 
Anyone know where to get 4mm standoffs? I just ordered and it says estimated shipping is over a month or so. Looking to get this build up next week once I receive cpu

Wait the month and just leave the side panel off in the mean time?
 
Anyone know where to get 4mm standoffs? I just ordered and it says estimated shipping is over a month or so. Looking to get this build up next week once I receive cpu
I've seen them on amazon.
Here.
 
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Will there be another kickstarter soon ??? i cant believe i missed it :(

No, and to buy the case you will need to wait until a store stocks it next year. But don't miss it then too, because Dan said he has no plans to make more. He did not say he will NEVER make more, just that there is no plan right now. It takes a year to make this case because he needs to do all the work and fundraising and shipping from start to finish!
 
Finally got time to install the cables from CableMod.

My results are a bit...mixed. The qualitity is top, the handling of the cables is way easier now - lots of free space. But for 120€..well, decide yourself.

Corsair SF450, Gigabyte H270n, Asus STRIX 1070
ATX 150mm
EPS 250mm
PCIe 350mm
SATA 100mm+50mm

The 350mm are way too too long, even with the ASUS STRIX 8pin connector hitting the top of the case, 300mm would've been better.
The SATA length is the minimum if you want to use 2 SSDs, one front and one botton.

Tried to use some cable combs, but with all the twisting around they are more hindrance than help.

Strange sideeffect - the STRIX is running a bit cooler now, might be from opening the airflow below the power supply?

Wiring old:
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Wiring new:
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€120 is more then I would be willing to spend on them but they do look nice, you should get low profile sata cables from Silverstone as well they come in black or blue
 
No, and to buy the case you will need to wait until a store stocks it next year. But don't miss it then too, because Dan said he has no plans to make more. He did not say he will NEVER make more, just that there is no plan right now. It takes a year to make this case because he needs to do all the work and fundraising and shipping from start to finish!

Thanks for the info ! ya ill try my best to get it this time around. Any stores in the us that will carry them ???
 
should get low profile sata cables from Silverstone as well they come in black or blue

I would advise against the Silverstone low profile sata cables. I've had nothing but problems with them. My ones worked fine for a few days then one by one they failed, Windows was detecting I/O errors then the drives disappeared. Same thing happened with the replacement cables I got. Awesome idea for a product, but really bad QC.
 
I would advise against the Silverstone low profile sata cables. I've had nothing but problems with them. My ones worked fine for a few days then one by one they failed, Windows was detecting I/O errors then the drives disappeared. Same thing happened with the replacement cables I got. Awesome idea for a product, but really bad QC.

I've been using these ones in my media server with 10 drives since the middle of May without issue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBA3ITK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I'm also using some in my DAN build and haven't had any issues there either.
 
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