Andrey Zhatkin
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Thanks. Will exercise my patience...My tracking number came from [email protected]
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Thanks. Will exercise my patience...My tracking number came from [email protected]
It might help the temperature of the CPU be cooler, but why would it help the gpu be cooler when the issue is that it's recirculating its own exhaust?
i know temps are decent (borderline scary) on the 1080 ti FE but has anyone tried replacing its thermal compound with the liquid metal to see if it would improve temps some more?
i know temps are decent (borderline scary) on the 1080 ti FE but has anyone tried replacing its thermal compound with the liquid metal to see if it would improve temps some more?
I though they would at least require a signature before they can drop it off. I wouldn't trust my packages sitting outside my door without me knowing.My first shipment white Sentry arrived today in United States - Colorado! Unit number 30 and I can't wait to build in it.
USPS never updated the tracking so I was surprised to find it at my doorstep.
In Europe backers are getting tracking numbers from courier companies to their email addresses. For packages which were/are/will be sent outside Europe you should also receive this number from transport company but in this situation we are additionally sending another message from our sentry mailbox just to be sure that you received it.
For those that have been using their sentry this past month or so, what are your thoughts?
Because if they're sealed, it may benefit more with the 40mm fans. As I recall someone tried this but in doing so they affected the cpu compartment by pulling the hot air to the gpu and you can assume the reverse would happen. I would like to try this myself when I get my Sentry.
Unless the shipper pays extra to require a signature, whether or not they leave the package is solely at the driver's discretion. If they don't feel it'd be safe to leave it, they won't.I though they would at least require a signature before they can drop it off. I wouldn't trust my packages sitting outside my door without me knowing.
once again, 80~84 degrees are target temps, what matters are clocks. The card will throttle down the clocks if it heats up more than that and will boost up if its colder than that (unless it has hit a power level).
1080TI reference boost clock is 1582 MHz (probably safely lowered due to silicon lottery etc), so I'm curious under what loads are you getting those 1700 MHz
We made it w00t! The sentry is finally here and looking interesting I must say. Shipping box was in good condition, no broken parts. Friend of mine has yet to pick up his half. Enjoy the photos of my build. Thanks again Dr. Zaber team, this case is amazing and you all were outstanding!!!
Specs -- maximum gaming performance crammed into the smallest possible case. w00t.
CPU: i7 7700k delided w/ thermal grizzly conductonaut
Cooler: Thermolab Cooltek LP53 w/ Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM (120mm slim fan held down with twist ties)
Paste: thermal grizzly kryonaut
Mobo: Asus z170i Pro Gaming - got it for $100 open box at microcenter, otherwise would have went z270
RAM: G.skill value 16GB (2x8GB) 2400mhz CL15
SSD: 1TB samsung 850 evo m.2 form factor
GPU: evga gtx 1080ti founders edition
PSU corsair sf600
Which combo do you guys like better??
Oh the heresy!
Did you really order two cases just to do that?
I wonder up to what number will be processed this weekend?
Temps with this compo fan+cooler?We made it w00t! The sentry is finally here and looking interesting I must say. Shipping box was in good condition, no broken parts. Friend of mine has yet to pick up his half (the other sentry case). Enjoy the photos of my build. Thanks again Dr. Zaber team, this case is amazing and you all were outstanding!!!
Specs -- maximum gaming performance crammed into the smallest possible case. w00t.
CPU: i7 7700k delided w/ thermal grizzly conductonaut
Cooler: Thermolab Cooltek LP53 w/ Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM (120mm slim fan held down with twist ties)
Paste: thermal grizzly kryonaut
Mobo: Asus z170i Pro Gaming - got it for $100 open box at microcenter, otherwise would have went z270
RAM: G.skill value 16GB (2x8GB) 2400mhz CL15
SSD: 1TB samsung 850 evo m.2 form factor
GPU: evga gtx 1080ti founders edition
PSU corsair sf600
Which combo do you guys like better??
Try flipping one of the fans, so it'll blow out hot air out of the caseUPDATE: the boost clock in sentry isn't nearly as good. It's usually around 1500MHz-1600MHz, but closer to ~1525MHz.
Still, it's better performance to get a blower/FE 1080Ti than an open air 1080. If you ramp up the fan to like 80% the boost sticks at 1823MHz for me (loud AF though).
That cooler doesn't say intel 115x compatible unless I'm missing something?My Sentry is on the way. I'm considering buying the CoolJag Falcon II and modding it with noctua fan. Anybody else has consider this?
It says on the website its compatible with 1156That cooler doesn't say intel 115x compatible unless I'm missing something?
Temps with this compo fan+cooler?
See attached screenshot during Crysis 3 "Welcome to the Jungle" grass level stress for ~8 minutes.
I'm curious by what St1X said... I'm going to try to reverse the CPU fan to use as exhaust, and test again... Right now it's sucking fresh air in from the outside and blowing it down onto the CPU cooler.
I can almost guarantee that won't work. Coolers like the lp53, nhl9i, even the Intel stock cooler definitely work bettwith air flowing down over them. These aren't like tower coolers where you can switch the air flow direction.
I think the main issue may be the size of the cpu fan. Iirc fans move the most air, or at least make the most pressure, near the tips of the fan blades. With the 120 mm fan most of the air pressure is going around the LP53, not through the fin stack. If you have a NF-a9x14 around I'd recommend trying that. It's still wider than the fins of the cooler, but much less so. Your cpu is delidded right? You should be getting way better temps. My 4790k never gets that warm during gaming.
Got my case - unit #4 Anyone here lower than that?
I'll have a full writeup later but because I'm feeling whimsical here's what a 980ti KPE looks like in Sentry XD
Prototype 1 - revision 1.0, Duh!
Nice image showing why we do NOT recommend those oversized monster cards. I hope you have a different card/planning to get something fitting inside.
Correct, the 7700k is delided. However, this gaming test was during the Crysis 3 grass level torture test, this stresses the CPU a lot. Gaming in something like Overwatch or Doom holds the CPU temps at around 65-70C.
The 120mm fan is actually off center where the bottom of the fan meets up with the bottom of the fin-stack of the LP-53. Also! I do have an NF-A9x14. I will try that but it has significantly lower static pressure and airflow than the 120mm. Do you think something like a paper/plastic fan shroud would help temps eventhough the fan is quite close to the side of the case already?
hopefully all so I can finally order mine
PLZ DR ZABER I'M DYING BRING THEM OUT FOR RETAIL
Alright, gigantic post coming up...
I used adhesive backed foam rubber weatherstripping between my fans and the case. Additionally I taped black cardboard paper over the remaining vents on the cpu side. This gives the cpu exhaust no option but to go out the side of the case. Some may travel over to the GPU side but its negligible because my GPU is also sealed to the side of the case so it cant suck in cpu exhaust.
Because my CPU isn't directly beneath the vent I have to offset the weather stripping arrangement a bit to ensure the cpu fan had access to the entire width of the vent. The green below outlines where the weatherstipping on the case lid aligns. You can see the extra piece I added on the SSD side of the fan to get the entire width of the vent sealed to the fan.It took quite a few tries to get the placement on the case lid correct. You don't want the seal to rest on the face of the fan or fan frame. It may keep the fan from spinning or it will just make a ton of noise. You want it to rest just along the perimeter of the fan as I have highlighted in green.
The weatherstripping more or less follows the perimeter of the 120mm fan filter. It's probably not visible in this photo but the cpu fan filter has caught a bunch of dust! It shouldn't be too hard to remove. But in ther interest of not having to redo the weatherstripping I'll probably just vacuum it from the outside. You can also see my abhorred mess of tape holding the paper in place. I just used electrical tape because I had it around. It does NOT stick very well to the powder coat finish. It works well enough for now. Nobody can see the inside anyway
Next I added a 140mm fan filter to the PSU. There's so little clearance between the psu and case that I couldn't just magnetically adhere the filter to the case lid again. I used a razor to cut the filter material from the magnet. Then I poked holes in it and screwed the PSU fan screws through it. Then to tidy it up I used electrical tape around the edges to prevent fraying. You can see it's already caught some dust. As for cleaning it I'll probably just take a vacuum to it as needed.
I've always used some sort of shroud or seal around my cpu intake to connect it directly with the outside air. It seems silly not to. Imagine the analogy of your car's engine bay if the exhaust emptied right there at the engine. With the exhaust and intake all in the same place it wouldn't be a good situation. There's a radiator fan on the front but it probably won't make a big difference.
This is pretty much how most large volume air cooled PC cases work. The intake and exhaust for the CPU are all in the same place with another fan across the case pointing at it in the hope it provides enough fresh air. Air is not a fluid, it doesn't have a defined volume or even a very constrained shape. It doesn't move like a laser across your case, but rather it diffuses almost instantly. That's why shrouds/seals on the intake make such a difference. It gives the CPU access to only fresh air. There's zero chance of recirculation.
One day if/when 3D printing is a bit cheaper I may start printing proper shrouds. But for now, rubber seals and cardboard paper works pretty well, and its damn cheap.
Another example of an intake shroud on my router/caching server. The blue is the intake areas. Every vent is covered in foam air filters.
I highly recommend adding some sort of seal or shroud to your Sentry, and any PC for that matter. Many OEM computers Have used a fan shroud for a while. Here's an ancient, generic Dell Optiplex . Below you can see it has a basic CPU fan shroud.
Below is a newer dell where you can see an exhaust shroud. It looks like the moved the cpu fan much closer to the side of the case. The plastic shield sits at a level between the cpu fan but above the fin stack creating an exhaust duct between it and the motherboard. Thus, the exhaust is less likely to recirculate. I've tried making such an exhaust shroud in the past but it's much harder than an intake shroud. Plus an intake shroud creates a lot of positive pressure forcing the exhaust out of the case.
tl;dr
For better temps, seal your cpu fan and gpu fan to the case.
Excellent job on this, how are temps looking post-sealing?
2nd batch? Also when did u receive your tracking number?White case arrived in mint condition. Plastic on outside was very slightly torn. East coast US. Ohio. Pics and mods will follow.