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Hi guys,

I'm building a PC for heavy working in multiple VMs (Virtual Machines). Windows as host and vmware workstaion for running VMs.


- CPU: Core i7-7820X
8 Cores/16 Threads . and it has highest votes in userbenchmark.com and it has a really good bench marking in term of single core and multi core bench marking http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Intel-Core--i7-7820X/Rating/3928

- CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan

- Storage 1: 960 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB

- Storage 2: Samsung 850 EVO 1TB

- Case: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Compact ATX Case

- Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2, 80+ GOLD 550W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 7 Year Warranty
I know the 550w power supply is enough but it's only 10$ difference between the 650w so I choose the bigger just for not regretting it.

- Mother Board: ASUS TUF X299 MARK 2
I'm not sure about the motherboard. I'm seeing that the x299 MB are bit expensive, I choose the cheapest one is for 260$, since the more expensive MBs has many features that I don't need.

- RAM: not yet chosen
Do you think that 3200 Hz and the 4 channels is going to work using this motherboard and CPU ? and do you think there is much difference between 3000Hz and dual channel ? I need 32G.

- Graphic Card: not yet chosen
since the CPU doesn't have Integrated Graphics, so I'm assuming that I have to purchase a simple graphic card in order to run the two monitors, unless the MB has a graphic card somehow.
 

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I would recommend a better cooler to cool that beast. It might be barely sufficient to cool it stock and forget about any overclocking.
 
I second the cooler, I'd consider the Noctua D15 or U14S as "adequate" cooling options, you need a big beefy cooler if you're going air, and a 240 or 280 mm radiator if looking at liquid. These puppies are hot! You'll need a bigger case to fit them, as well. The 200R only supports up to 160mm tall coolers, and most towers that are going to work are taller. It does support 240mm (but not 280) radiators in the top, so if you go with an AIO liquid cooler, that's the size you want.

Memory: Skylake X is a quad channel CPU, so to get the maximum performance potential, you need to buy your memory in a quad-channel kit (4x8GB). I see you've selected two dual channel kits, and Trident Zs are excellent, but look for the equivalent quad channel for that memory, it definitely exists (and remember: lower CAS latency is better, but watch the costs, CL16 is fine). It should be a touch less $$, but more importantly, all 4 sticks are tested to run at that speed together, something not guaranteed with buying two dual kits.

GPU: You do have to buy one. If all you need is video output and no acceleration, grab an Nvidia GT1030 if you aren't using dual 4k. If you are running 4k monitors, or would like a little more horsepower, and some passable OpenCL acceleration, up it to a GTX 1050 (or 1050ti) or AMD RX460 depending on your preferred flavor, but you will want a better power supply-750W (Skylake X really does use a lot of power).
 
RAM is RAM, single, vs dual, vs quad channel is just relative to the number of sticks. Kits sold as dual and quad is marketing. Though it is better to get sticks from the same batch.
 
vegeta535 said:
I would recommend a better cooler to cool that beast. It might be barely sufficient to cool it stock and forget about any overclocking.
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Grebuloner said:
I second the cooler, I'd consider the Noctua D15 or U14S as "adequate" cooling options, you need a big beefy cooler if you're going air, and a 240 or 280 mm radiator if looking at liquid. These puppies are hot! You'll need a bigger case to fit them, as well. The 200R only supports up to 160mm tall coolers, and most towers that are going to work are taller. It does support 240mm (but not 280) radiators in the top, so if you go with an AIO liquid cooler, that's the size you want.

Memory: Skylake X is a quad channel CPU, so to get the maximum performance potential, you need to buy your memory in a quad-channel kit (4x8GB). I see you've selected two dual channel kits, and Trident Zs are excellent, but look for the equivalent quad channel for that memory, it definitely exists (and remember: lower CAS latency is better, but watch the costs, CL16 is fine). It should be a touch less $$, but more importantly, all 4 sticks are tested to run at that speed together, something not guaranteed with buying two dual kits.

GPU: You do have to buy one. If all you need is video output and no acceleration, grab an Nvidia GT1030 if you aren't using dual 4k. If you are running 4k monitors, or would like a little more horsepower, and some passable OpenCL acceleration, up it to a GTX 1050 (or 1050ti) or AMD RX460 depending on your preferred flavor, but you will want a better power supply-750W (Skylake X really does use a lot of power).
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rive22 said:
RAM is RAM, single, vs dual, vs quad channel is just relative to the number of sticks. Kits sold as dual and quad is marketing. Though it is better to get sticks from the same batch.
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Thank you guys for this valuable information and suggestion.

I've changed the CPU cooler as peer your suggestions, to a block water cooler (Corsair Hydro Series H105 ) 240mm radiator. but is the heating issue is noticeable only when overclocking or even without overclocking?

I've changed the Ram to G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) and as my understanding to the quad channel feature , this 4x8 kit should operate in quad channel since the MB/CPU support quad channel. But, in the specification of the ram (in the newegg link i've provided) it shows that its a "Dual Channel Kit" ! how come?

And i choose this GPU.
 
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SKL-X has been noted to have difficulty running at stock speeds under heavy loads due to its thermal loading. A long, deep, and very interesting read about it. When I finally upgrade myself to a 7920X (probably, maybe), I'll be making my first foray into custom water cooling since I'm an AVX-heavy user.

kimoh10 said:
I've changed the Ram to G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) and as my understanding to the quad channel feature , this 4x8 kit should operate in quad channel since the MB/CPU support quad channel. But, in the specification of the ram (in the newegg link i've provided) it shows that its a "Dual Channel Kit" ! how come?

And i choose this GPU.
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Don't worry about the marketing error in the memory, as long as you put them all in the correct slots, they will be quad channel with your CPU. That said, don't buy that kit. Get this one instead: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232317. It's $37 cheaper for the same speed.

Then use the savings to get that newer GPU. Like this one (DP+HDMI) or this one (DVI+HDMI)
 
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