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i just bought a 4k tv. I haven't had a console since the very first Xbox.

Which console will do 4k better? Whixh one has more 4k games? Im having a terrible time finding 4k gaming in general. Having a PC hooked up is not an option.
 
The ONLY option right now is the PS4 Pro. Even then, technically most of the games that support it aren't rendering at a full 4K (mostly 1440-1800P with checker-boarding to upscale it to 4K), but it still looks great to me on my 4K TV. Much better than 1080p did at least. Most games on the PS4 aren't necessarily patched to fully support the PS4 Pro either though, so those games will still only render at whatever resolution that the base PS4 played them at (normally 1080P for most base PS4 games). But most of the larger and newer titles have been patched/updated to support the Pro and 4K resolution.

Microsoft is releasing the Xbox One X in Q4 this year to bring 4K gaming to their side of the console world and to compete with Sony better. As of right now, the Xbox One S only supports 4K Blu-Ray playback (while the PS4 Pro doesn't oddly enough) and most of their games only run at 900p or so and are scaled to whatever your TV's resolution is.

Some notable titles I would suggest if you pickup the PS4 Pro that support it well are:

  • Horizon: Zero Dawn (just finished it last night actually and it's an amazing game)
  • The Last of Us Remastered (One of my favorite games of all time now)
  • Uncharted 4 (I would really recommend to get the Uncharted Collection that has the first 3 games as well despite them not supporting 4K - they're really fun and amazing games still)
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider (This game gives the most graphical options to Pro owners; Performance @ 60 FPS, high IQ at 1080P, or true 4K - I enjoyed 4K the most though)
 
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I still wish more games offered 1080p/60 rather than 4K/30. I honestly don't think the jump from 1080p to 4K is that big when the FPS and frame times typically suffer. It looks better in stills and in interpolated YouTube videos, but in practice it's not all it's cracked up to be. I feel the jump from 720p to 1080p was a bigger deal.

In terms of your question, it seems like the upcoming Xbox One X might be a better performer for cross-platform titles than the PS4 Pro. The caveat is that most developers aren't going to put that much effort into it and the Xbox has minimal exclusives.

I know you said a PC isn't an option, but that's the only place I feel 4K gaming is shining right now. There are some exceptions (like Tomb Raider and Nioh that offer 1080p/60) but most games aren't that impressive, IMO.
 
Got it. Thanks. I still have some time before I'll "need" a console. Involved story but I bought a 65 OLED HDR 4K TV for my other house. It's installed and all, but I'm not there.
 
I'd say go with PS4 pro. While Microsoft will have the better hardware, they don't have that many exclusive games to make it worthwhile
 
Only caveat with the PS4 Pro is it doesn't have a UHD Blu-ray player like the Xbox One S has or the X will. Since getting a PS4 Pro and 4K TV, though, my Boner has been relegated to movie duties.
 
Seems like the new Xbox is worth waiting for, for my needs.
 
T4rd said:
  • Horizon: Zero Dawn (just finished it last night actually and it's an amazing game)
  • The Last of Us Remastered (One of my favorite games of all time now)
  • Uncharted 4 (I would really recommend to get the Uncharted Collection that has the first 3 games as well despite them not supporting 4K - they're really fun and amazing games still)
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider (This game gives the most graphical options to Pro owners; Performance @ 60 FPS, high IQ at 1080P, or true 4K - I enjoyed 4K the most though)
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I would also add Watchdogs 2, Infamous: Second Son, and Ratchet and Clank to this list. They look incredible on PS4 Pro; more specifically Ratchet and Clank which looks like you're playing a Pixar movie.
 
Liver said:
Seems like the new Xbox is worth waiting for, for my needs.
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Why not both? PS4 definitely has better (exclusive) games that are easily worth the price of admission for the console. I know that sounds fanboyish, but I game on every platform and my PS4 has definitely kept my attention more than my PC or Xbone for the past year. Admittedly I haven't had much time to game really since I've been a full time student, worker, and father/husband for the past few years, but what little time I have taken to play something has usually been on my PS4.
 
Mainly since gaming time is quite quite low. In fact I'll be giving up my pc this year, by choice.

I have a feeling this machine will see some gaming, but play more 4k movies than games.
 
I would say if you can wait and afford it go with Xbox One X. Xbox One X has additional memory for higher resolution textures. Also if you have any interest in 4k blu rays the Xbox also has a UHD blu ray drive.
 
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I would say if you can wait and afford it go with Xbox One X. Xbox One X has additional memory for higher resolution textures. Also if you have any interest in 4k blu rays the Xbox also has a UHD blu ray drive.
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This has not been mentioned before, but that UHD drive is a huge deal. However, the PS4 by-far has the better games. So it will be a hard decision for OP.

1: Decide which platform the games you want to play are on,
2: Do you game online and if-so which system are your friends playing on, and
3: Are 4K UHD movies important to you. That'll narrow your decision down by a lot.

Also, let's not forget about cost differences. I have seen PS4 pro going for less than $400 during some sales and the Xbox One X is $499. So, cost is definitely another factor.
 
zamardii12 said:
This has not been mentioned before, but that UHD drive is a huge deal. However, the PS4 by-far has the better games. So it will be a hard decision for OP.

1: Decide which platform the games you want to play are on,
2: Do you game online and if-so which system are your friends playing on, and
3: Are 4K UHD movies important to you. That'll narrow your decision down by a lot.

Also, let's not forget about cost differences. I have seen PS4 pro going for less than $400 during some sales and the Xbox One X is $499. So, cost is definitely another factor.
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No doubt there are factors that will affect someones decision differently. For me I use my XB1 way more then my PS4. The only games I have for the PS4 are exclusives, the rest I have on the XB1. So the PS4 Pro is actually not a great value buy for me in comparison to the XB1X even taking into consideration the $100 premium.
 
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zamardii12 said:
This has not been mentioned before, but that UHD drive is a huge deal. However, the PS4 by-far has the better games. So it will be a hard decision for OP.

1: Decide which platform the games you want to play are on,
2: Do you game online and if-so which system are your friends playing on, and
3: Are 4K UHD movies important to you. That'll narrow your decision down by a lot.

Also, let's not forget about cost differences. I have seen PS4 pro going for less than $400 during some sales and the Xbox One X is $499. So, cost is definitely another factor.
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Mentioned the UHD drive in post #7, and I really do think Sony shot themselves in the foot with this decision. I've seen a lot of people who have decided to either wait for the X or take an upgrade path with an S due to the lack of a UHD player in the PS4 Pro.

I also agree with the game library. I've been playing games more on my PS4 Pro recently than on either my Xbox or PC. Some of that may be due to the fact I've recently been invited into a top-ranked RB Rivals crew on PSN, though.
 
The drive is a big deal to me. I *assume* it'll play all discs (DVD bluray and 4k) so I can play all sorts of kid movies.

The cost difference isn't a big concern to me, despite it being about 20% more.

I don't have any friends that video game anymore. None. Same friends, no gaming. So most likely it'll be single player games. I'm way too slow for FPS. Hey, it happens!

I really want to play that Last of Us game. Looks really nice, but then I lose the drive.

I could get a player, but in the new house space is a concern. The AV closet is very small compared to my main house. Every little bit matters.
 
I wouldn't even ask this question if I hadn't bought that awesome TV. Ha.
 
4K players are getting relatively cheap. Picked up the LG UP970 this week for $139 to go with my LG 4K OLED.

Obviously wish the PS4 Pro had it built in, but I have it for the exclusive games. My gaming PC is also hooked up to the tv as well though, so Xb1 X would be pretty pointless for my case.
 
If I get a stand alone disc player, that'll kill the console purchase. It's not a money issue either.
 
It's quite possible Sony may release a revised PS4 Pro with UHD BD drive around the time the One X launches as well to compete better with it. It was like the #1 complaint people had with the Pro when it launched. I kinda expect them to drop the price on the Pro by $50 or so around that time as well.
 
T4rd said:
It's quite possible Sony may release a revised PS4 Pro with UHD BD drive around the time the One X launches as well to compete better with it. It was like the #1 complaint people had with the Pro when it launched. I kinda expect them to drop the price on the Pro by $50 or so around that time as well.
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That would be quite the slap in the face for early adopters. Even though I have an Xbox One S I'd still be pissed.
 
Armenius said:
That would be quite the slap in the face for early adopters. Even though I have an Xbox One S I'd still be pissed.
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Yeah, it kinda would be and it probably won't happen, but I could see it happening just because the One S has one and it seems stupid that they didn't have one on there to begin with considering it's a 4K gaming console.

I personally wouldn't care though, as I haven't used physical media for movies in years now and don't plan to anymore. I have a 300 Mb/s connection and can stream or download 4K content whenever I want. It may not be the same quality/bitrate as a UHD disk, but the difference doesn't warrant me caring enough to go buy/rent a UHD BD copy over the convenience of watching it now at a mostly negligible hit in image quality.
 
T4rd said:
It's quite possible Sony may release a revised PS4 Pro with UHD BD drive around the time the One X launches as well to compete better with it. It was like the #1 complaint people had with the Pro when it launched. I kinda expect them to drop the price on the Pro by $50 or so around that time as well.
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I highly doubt it. Sony looked at UHD and determined 4k is going to be mainly streaming. There would be less likely of them doing it in the future than more likely.

When PS5 comes out I wouldn't be surprised if it included UHD because they will need it to support true 4k gaming.
 
I get that enthusiasts (like us, the people on this site) are seriously all about 4K Blu-Rays, but I honestly don't know anyone else who watches them. For that matter, I barely know anyone who is watching disk-based media in general. It usually comes down to Disney DVD's and Blu-Rays that were purchased and watched over and over by kids that don't care about 4K vs. 480p.
Then again, the PS4 Pro is an enthusiast machine...so clearly there's something unique there. I'd imagine Sony did the math on UHD and decided against it based upon that. I'm sure their movie rental service and TV streaming services played a role, too.
Time will tell if they were right or wrong, but I doubt it was a quick/easy decision. Personally, I wish it had UHD disk support, but I can't even tell you the last time I watched a new disk myself. The only disks I watch are the movies I've seen a million times and bought copies of years ago. Not like a UHD copy of Step Brothers or Bloodsport is bringing anything new to the table.
 
Domingo said:
I get that enthusiasts (like us, the people on this site) are seriously all about 4K Blu-Rays, but I honestly don't know anyone else who watches them. For that matter, I barely know anyone who is watching disk-based media in general. It usually comes down to Disney DVD's and Blu-Rays that were purchased and watched over and over by kids that don't care about 4K vs. 480p.
Then again, the PS4 Pro is an enthusiast machine...so clearly there's something unique there. I'd imagine Sony did the math on UHD and decided against it based upon that. I'm sure their movie rental service and TV streaming services played a role, too.
Time will tell if they were right or wrong, but I doubt it was a quick/easy decision. Personally, I wish it had UHD disk support, but I can't even tell you the last time I watched a new disk myself. The only disks I watch are the movies I've seen a million times and bought copies of years ago. Not like a UHD copy of Step Brothers or Bloodsport is bringing anything new to the table.
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bigdogchris said:
I highly doubt it. Sony looked at UHD and determined 4k is going to be mainly streaming. There would be less likely of them doing it in the future than more likely.

When PS5 comes out I wouldn't be surprised if it included UHD because they will need it to support true 4k gaming.
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Yeah, see my follow up post to Armemius where I said I doubt it would happen either, but I still think it's possible. If the price difference in UHD drives is a negligible amount by the time they release their next revision though, why wouldn't they? They certainly wouldn't care about alienating the original Pro buyers a year after its initial launch.
 
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