Windows 10's Share Has Grown by Just 5 Percent in a Year

I like Win 10 Home because of the following reasons:

- it works for everything I use my PC for
- it works perfect for gaming, no more crashes
- it was free, I missed the online free promo but a Microsoft agent gave me a free copy anyways {8^D
- they update it well
- did I mention it was free?
- I like the ever changing wallpaper HD photos that show when first powering up the PC
- I couldn't care less, how much they track my internet usage

Through the years there have been much bad-mouthing and complaining about Windows and it did have some issues like the XP blue screen, failure to boot after a power failure, etc but these things have been taken care of. In the past 3 years I've not seen even one blue screen or anything like it using Windows 8.1 and Win 10. I've had zero issues using Windows 10 Home. And with PC hardware being as fast as it is today, I have had no issues whatsoever with how much DDR Windows uses, etc

So, all I can say is I'm "very pleased" and no, I don't work in any tech industry
 
Exercate said:
I hear 'ya. So, I pinned Control Panel on the Start Bar close to the Start button.
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Different paths to the same place. We each wanted the Control Panel easy to access and took different paths getting there. In either case the Start Menu was too shitty to give us what we wanted.
 
bobdabilder said:
Yes, you found me out. I had trouble typing this as well. Nevermind the data harvesting piece of shit that w10 is. That's not relevant at all. Look over here, it's a butterfly.
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So fucking what. I hope MS enjoys all my VR porn statistics.
 
Jim Kim said:
Uhh SteamOS is DOA, no matter what Microsoft chooses to do.
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Fact is: We know nothing about the usage statistics of SteamOS as it is not included in the Valve hardware survey.

Based around Microsoft's oddball decisions as of late, Windows 10's slow adoption doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Corporate adoption would want to save it as it's obvious consumer adoption won't.
 
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I'm not surprised in the least. If it weren't for dx12 I would still be on 7. While 10 isn't terrible, I find that I have more bugs and glitches than 7. It's faster, but I don't find any value in the new features. Apps on my desktop can go to hell.

I think it's another case of ms telling their customers what they want instead of listening to them.
 
Why? Operating systems have all been much of a muchness since 10 years ago. Average folks only upgrade when they need to.

Pretty much all my customers are now on 10. I won't rebuild Windows 7/8 machines now.
 
Linux will always struggle while it devotes so much energy to thousands of different distros and all the different desktop environments. Dump all that, narrow the focus and widen the effort.

It's constantly fighting itself and doesn't realise it.
 
daglesj said:
Linux will always struggle while it devotes so much energy to thousands of different distros and all the different desktop environments. Dump all that, narrow the focus and widen the effort.

It's constantly fighting itself and doesn't realise it.
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It's an open source OS, locking Linux down like Windows would go against everything Linux stands for. One of the reasons I was initially attracted to Linux was its vast choice of distro's, why just have a cheeseburger when you can have the whole shop.

Do your research based around the top ten distro's, boot up a couple of live images where possible, find one you like and stick to it. It's really a non issue, at least Linux doesn't suffer from two entirely different UI's based around desktop and touch interface in the one OS.
 
I wonder what the adoption rate of Win 10 would be if it wasn't forced on people, especially gamers? We all thought Vista was a joke until Windows 8 came out. Windows 8/8.1/10 might never overpass Windows 7. By then Windows 11 will be coming out...
 
the huge issue here and im surprised its not reported on more they need to decide what the os is and have a single settings/control panel for everything. it would be as simple as make a newly named control panel app or redesign the settings functionality in to their proper control panel containers.
 
Well Microsoft, maybe focus on getting a fast responsive experience into the hands of consumers for a reasonable price. A $1000, 100% un-reparable laptop locked to windows store apps does not count.

Putting 2% effort into mobile handsets also helped you a ton.
 
maxius said:
the huge issue here and im surprised its not reported on more they need to decide what the os is and have a single settings/control panel for everything.
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Control panel, not settings panel. The control panel worked and settings were logically laid out and easy to find, with no fat fingered touch inspired interface on my desktop machine.

With every update Windows becomes more of a touch OS and less of a desktop OS, I can't stand it.
 
BulletDust said:
It's an open source OS, locking Linux down like Windows would go against everything Linux stands for. One of the reasons I was initially attracted to Linux was its vast choice of distro's, why just have a cheeseburger when you can have the whole shop.

Do your research based around the top ten distro's, boot up a couple of live images where possible, find one you like and stick to it. It's really a non issue, at least Linux doesn't suffer from two entirely different UI's based around desktop and touch interface in the one OS.
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Enjoy staying at 1-2% then. :)
 
BulletDust said:
Control panel, not settings panel. The control panel worked and settings were logically laid out and easy to find, with no fat fingered touch inspired interface on my desktop machine.

With every update Windows becomes more of a touch OS and less of a desktop OS, I can't stand it.
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I'm not a touchy-feely guy either. Moreover, my "desktop" when I'm race-or-flight simming is a fabric projection screen (I use a projector which throws a big, closeup image), and I can--barely--reach the center of it with one outstretched arm. No touch possibilities there.

I did use the "plottting-map" back in Silent Hunter 3, not as a touch screen, but with protractor, compass and distance for target tracking and plotting right on the monitor face (then glass--the maps aspect ratio was such that circles were actually round, and not oval, so it worked well). Very absorbing...but also entirely devoid of a need for touchscreen anything, even though I was pretty much fondling the monitor as I used it. I could do that again today with a dual or triple HDMI output v. card: One for the projected "bridge" and another for VR...or a small screen facing vertically upward when I'm a sub-jockey.

Still no need for a touchscreen. Unless it's phone, I just don't see any advantage to touchy-feely at all.
 
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kekewons said:
I'm not a touchy-feely guy either. Moreover, my "desktop" when I'm race-or-flight simming is a fabric projection screen (I use a projector which throws a big, closeup image), and I can--barely--reach the center of it with one outstretched arm. No touch possibilities there.

I did use the "plottting-map" back in Silent Hunter 3, not as a touch screen, but with protractor, compass and distance for target tracking and plotting right on the monitor face (then glass--the maps aspect ratio was such that circles were actually round, and not oval, so it worked well). Very absorbing...but also entirely devoid of a need for touchscreen anything, even though I was pretty much fondling the monitor as I used it. I could do that again today with a dual or triple HDMI output v. card: One for the projected "bridge" and another for VR...or a small screen facing vertically upward when I'm a sub-jockey.

Still no need for a touchscreen. Unless it's phone, I just don't see any advantage to touchy-feely at all.
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Do you have a full flight deck setup? Windows 10 works great without any touch hardware so you would be good to go there. How big does the screen display on your fabric projection screen?
 
Well, I can tweak it for FOV with lens zoom or by moving the projector case itself (as well as in the software), but I'll ballpark it at 60"-70" horizontal for the moment--as it happens I'm rebuilding the cockpit setup again this week, so those are older, baseline numbers. Viewing distance just about 36" from the lens of my eye to the center of the screen (my legs stick through another two-to-three feet onto the pedals, as do Remco's in the video which follows).

I've posted this link here already in one of the VR threads:

That^^^ isn't me, but my own rig layout is very similar, except maybe in terms of the actual FOV itself. What I do that Remco may not is I also spend time to ensure that the onscreen elements match drawings for the actual car...so that the mirrors are at the actual angles (from centerline) that they are in the real car, etc. That way I'm sure I have "a lifesize view," within a percentage point or two.

Compare it to this onboard of the same car, and you can perhaps see why it works for me:

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No flight setup yet--it's all been gathering dust for a few years, but I'll get back to it soon. Racing first though.... :D

[apologies for going off-topic]
 
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BulletDust said:
Give it the marketing budget/forced install system Windows enjoys and I'm sure that wouldn't be an issue.

What a stupid comment.
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All I am saying is that free doesn't mean as much as some might think. It's only one of a number of considerations.
 
If you go to Netmarketshare.com (the source for the linked article) and play around with the graphs, it's very interesting--from Aug 2015 - July 2016, it averaged about 1.5% marketshare growth per month. From Aug 2016 - July 2017, it hasn't even managed half of one percent. It's pretty clear that the free upgrade period had a dramatic effect on the adoption rate of Windows 10, because the pace of growth fell off right as the promotion ended. One half of one percent marketshare growth tells me that consumers are pretty satisfied with their Windows 7 computers, even more than they were with XP.

For comparison, here's Windows 7's growth chart: http://www.netmarketshare.com/opera...11&qpcustomb=0&qptimeframe=M&qpsp=130&qpnp=30

Windows 7 hit 35% marketshare after 2 years--that's a similar growth rate to Windows 10's first year. Windows 7 then saw reduced growth (about 0.5%/month), just like Windows 10 is seeing. The difference is that Microsoft literally gave Windows 10 away for that first year, and Windows 7 didn't have that advantage.

If you assume that people replace their computers every 8 years or so, that accounts for 1%/month marketshare growth. That makes me think that very few people are migrating to Windows 10.
 
Kind of expected considering how aggressively they forced it out and the lack of need for more powerful PCs.
 
daglesj said:
Enjoy staying at 1-2% then. :)
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2.35% that we know of, most likely closer to about 4.5% judging by the way MS wants to embrace Linux.

If you find it an issue than you obviously struggle with anything but Windows and should stick to Windows, I take no personal offence to your comment. The fact is, thankfully, open source by nature is not controlled by a single entity like MS and the vast selection of distro's has little to no impact on the usage or development of Linux whatsoever when Ubuntu based distro's are usually the prefered development platform and platform of choice regarding business.

Good luck in your Windows 10 world with the decisions of Microsoft as late, seems the one unified platform isn't working so well there considering the uptake of Microsoft's latest OS. ;)
 
BulletDust said:
2.35% that we know of, most likely closer to about 4.5% judging by the way MS wants to embrace Linux.

If you find it an issue than you obviously struggle with anything but Windows and should stick to Windows, I take no personal offence to your comment. The fact is, thankfully, open source by nature is not controlled by a single entity like MS and the vast selection of distro's has little to no impact on the usage or development of Linux whatsoever when Ubuntu based distro's are usually the prefered development platform and platform of choice regarding business.

Good luck in your Windows 10 world with the decisions of Microsoft as late, seems the one unified platform isn't working so well there considering the uptake of Microsoft's latest OS. ;)
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Well I wish you all the best too with 2018/19/20/21/22/23/24/25/26/27 etc. etc. maybe being "the year of Linux". Don't hold your breath though. ;)

I stand by my theory that as long as Linux stays 'diversified' with all it's distros and desktop versions, it will never get anywhere close to any form of desktop dominance. The only version that will is the re-jigged standardised version that forms ChromeOS. Standardisation works!

I'd like to see more from Linux, I truly would. Competition is great but it will never happen until the powers that be in Linux world wake up and take it seriously.
 
naib said:
The company I work for has just started the process of rolling out windows10. Holding off for this long isn't that uncommon (especially as they were quite far through evaluating windows8 before MS pulled the rug out from beneath them...). I expect in over the next 12months the usage figures to rise a lot (not saying who I work for has billions of users, just its a common theme in the industry I work for and I suspect elsewhere)
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We won't be moving to W10 until Microsoft has a version that is HIPAA compliant. In other words: never.
 
snowcrash said:
Why would anyone still use classicshell for Win 10? I got rid of it (Start10) once the updated menu was in place. I especially love the right click menus. Very useful.
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The loss of hierarchy is the main reason for me. I always curate my menu into logical categories. Also, installing legacy applications that have a number of associated applications/pdfs will have them spread through out the alphabetized Windows 10 menu instead of them all being in a menu folder.
 
sadsteve said:
The loss of hierarchy is the main reason for me. I always curate my menu into logical categories. Also, installing legacy applications that have a number of associated applications/pdfs will have them spread through out the alphabetized Windows 10 menu instead of them all being in a menu folder.
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Tile folders I think takes care of much of this. While they only allow on level of nesting it's easy to group any arbitrary shortcuts into whatever grouping one wants. As an app launcher the Windows 10 Start Menu is pretty straight forward.
 
daglesj said:
Well I wish you all the best too with 2018/19/20/21/22/23/24/25/26/27 etc. etc. maybe being "the year of Linux". Don't hold your breath though. ;)

I stand by my theory that as long as Linux stays 'diversified' with all it's distros and desktop versions, it will never get anywhere close to any form of desktop dominance. The only version that will is the re-jigged standardised version that forms ChromeOS. Standardisation works!

I'd like to see more from Linux, I truly would. Competition is great but it will never happen until the powers that be in Linux world wake up and take it seriously.
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Give me a break, if there was only one distro of Linux, not much with be different in terms of marketshare. Linux needs two things in order to be successful on the desktop:

1. Run all the software people need

2. A marketing push (paying vendors to favor it on new computers, commercials, etc.)

Both Android and ChromeOS fit this criteria. Neither one is competing directly against Windows, they're in a different ecosystem, so they don't have to take on the vast library of software compatibility that Windows enjoys. They also are both funded by Google to the tune of millions, which gives them all the exposure they need.
 
trentchau said:
has worked fine for me. Sorry if you aren't capable enough a pc user to handle the nuances of such a simple os.
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I feel like windows 10 is just a experiment more then a proper OS, they change the UI elements with almost every update making it a nightmare for anyone who isn't tech savy to use or learn. Maybe they will come to their senses and actually make a proper a desktop OS and leave there tablet ui for the tablets.
 
yourgrandma said:
I feel like windows 10 is just a experiment more then a proper OS, they change the UI elements with almost every update making it a nightmare for anyone who isn't tech savy to use or learn. Maybe they will come to their senses and actually make a proper a desktop OS and leave there tablet ui for the tablets.
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Nothing has radically changed with the Windows 10 UI since launch two years ago.
 
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