Young Men Are Playing Video Games Instead of Getting Jobs

My future son-inlaw has only worked at Dollar General and Cannot land a decent paying job. Yes he does spend too much time playing games, but he cannot even get an entry level plant job due to lack of experience.
 
I spent my 20's playing video games (while getting a couple of college degrees) I have a house and kids and a wife and a Job. I have almost always either worked successfully for myself or at a fortune 500 company I don't feel the time I spent playing video games hurt me. I mean sure maybe had I devoted my life to other pursuits I could have cured cancer or made a billion dollars by now, but if that your benchmark then 99.9999999% of people have wasted their lives.

I do think the millennial generation has some serious issues (not being resilient enough getting outraged/triggered over everything etc.) but I think the news media in general is way over selling the whole millennials can't handle life angle.
 
Pusher of Buttons said:
See I think that's the hard part. I haven't been unemployed since I was 15....my old man was the same way, worked for almost 30 straight years at the same place since he was 18 and then they went out of business. He had no idea how to be unemployed or job search (and not like the "I already have a job but tossing out resumes to see what sticks" kind of job search).

I have to admit I'd be a little lost. I've moved between jobs but I've never had a stretch where I was DESPERATE to find a job. I think a lot of people just give up and say fuggit, I can make leather armor in Orzammar instead.
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I was in the same boat. I did 16 years in the Army and then they asked me to leave with early retirement. I took it cause I could see the writing on the wall, my career with the Army was done. So looking for a job and learning a new world where jobs are temporary things was tough.

I know this sounds like tripe, but a man does what a man has to do.

I worked as a contractor for about 8 or 10 years and then I couldn't get work anymore, no one would talk to me. My normal employers all had the same customer, the US Army and the Army had decided that all IT workers must have Security+ Certification. After being turned down for the fifth time, the guy I was interviewing said that he'd love to hire me if I just had Security+.

A man does what he has to do.

I called a job training tech company, scheduled classes for A+. Net+, and Security+ and got a seat on a plane for San Jose. Within three weeks of getting those certs I was working again.

I bet your Dad got passed his "dry spell and I bet you already know this yourself. So just count this post and my comments as reinforcement (y)
 
lcpiper said:
"..............I could steal my daddy's cue and make a living at playen pool"
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Interesting that you bring up Rod Stewart. He's a hobbyist too in his spare time. Has been for years, but he's a model railroader, not a gamer.

Can't grab a link, but google will turn up quite a few pics on the subject. Pretty impressive work.
 
Job market is a bear if you have no education in something in high demand. You get treated like shit tossed out like shit, its just shit. Not everyone can ' just get an education' either you know.
 
Snoflo said:
Well according to the latest research games are good for you! Above 25 hours a week gaming seems to be the cut-off point where the cons of gaming outweigh the benefits though. This is an area of active research. They're using games to help people with mental disorders like depression, anti-social behaviour disorders, autism etc. In fact, VR gaming with social interaction is being looked at as a way to implement cognitive behavioural therapy in a non-threatening environment.

After I read the research from 2014 to current I started playing games again (I stopped for more than twenty years, basically). FPS games are associated with beneficial effects like faster problem solving skills, better short-term memory, better spatial skills, conquering social anxieties, reduces procrastination and encourages the completion of tasks etc. I think it has helped me in my field where I have to think fast on my feet - or at least I feel that way. They're actually using games to hone surgeons' endoscopy skills. RPG games and MMORPGs help people build empathy and social skills compared to people who don't game.

So, unlike what people used to say before 2014 when there was a lack of hard data, gaming isn't a waste of time. Naturally, computer gaming can become an addiction like anything else. I don't think playing computer games makes someone unemployed. It probably helps him cope with a loss of self-esteem. My guess anyway.
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I totally agree. I used to be really introverted and couldn't deal with people socially. But Fallout 4 helped me get passed that.

I get so much satisfaction now from helping people, all those settlements that need someone to kick the raiders in the nuts or slam dunk some mutants.

But the best is when I get to help real people now with real world problems.

I just get such a ... you know, a high ....every time I help Momma Murphy, giving her some Jet or Psycho, You know, when she's really hurtin bad and needs the sight.

I have a save point right there so if I'm feeling a little bummed myself, I can just juice that old girl up and I'm good again you know (y)
 
Millennials everyone's favorite punching bag... Usually based on markets and economies that do not exist in the US anymore.
 
Uvaman2 said:
Job market is a bear if you have no education in something in high demand. You get treated like shit tossed out like shit, its just shit. Not everyone can ' just get an education' either you know.
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Uvaman2, I was harsh with my "Bullshit" comment. I've been unemployed before myself. My longest stretch was 6 months back when I didn't have that Security+ cert that had simply become a must have requirement for Army IT contractors.

And I can get that bit about having job skills that just are no longer in demand. But in all fairness, these things rarely happen overnight. We had been told for years that someday we would have to have Security+. I just didn't get off my ass and go get it and it cost me half a years wages to finally come around to the reality of it and as I said, do what a man has to do.

That comes from facing reality, not hiding from it hoping it will go away. The world changes, sometimes quickly. Sometimes with little warning but more often then not the signs are there plain as day.

I game as much as any working man does. Always have. I didn't want to take time away from fun things to chase after something that I actually was going to need and I paid for it. I was lucky that I had money saved and could just run off and get the training I needed. I was also lucky that relatively speaking, it was an easy thing to get. It's not like I was a body shop guy and needed a whole new career path.

But it is the same exact thing I faced that so many people have to face.

The only question is are they going to face it or hide from it until it takes a big old bite outa their ass ?
 
lcpiper said:
Uvaman2, I was harsh with my "Bullshit" comment. I've been unemployed before myself. My longest stretch was 6 months back when I didn't have that Security+ cert that had simply become a must have requirement for Army IT contractors.

And I can get that bit about having job skills that just are no longer in demand. But in all fairness, these things rarely happen overnight. We had been told for years that someday we would have to have Security+. I just didn't get off my ass and go get it and it cost me half a years wages to finally come around to the reality of it and as I said, do what a man has to do.

That comes from facing reality, not hiding from it hoping it will go away. The world changes, sometimes quickly. Sometimes with little warning but more often then not the signs are there plain as day.

I game as much as any working man does. Always have. I didn't want to take time away from fun things to chase after something that I actually was going to need and I paid for it. I was lucky that I had money saved and could just run off and get the training I needed. I was also lucky that relatively speaking, it was an easy thing to get. It's not like I was a body shop guy and needed a whole new career path.

But it is the same exact thing I faced that so many people have to face.

The only question is are they going to face it or hide from it until it takes a big old bite outa their ass ?
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Oh I was just adding some comments not in particular response. I do agree one has to always be off ones ass, and there are lazy bums out there that even with help they burn the bridge, but I don't think those are most nor do we have a generational crisis of bums vs super generations before and shit like that. Economy I do think it's harder to navigate, shit Ive seen my wife's resume get kicked by the computer for jobs she had experience in, for incredible glorious jobs of 8 bucks an hour shit like that.
 
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Oh I was just adding some comments not in particular response. I do agree one has to always be off ones ass, and there are lazy bums out there that even with help they burn the bridge, but I don't think those are most nor do we have a generational crisis of bums vs super generations before and shit like that. Economy I do think it's harder to navigate, shit Ive seen my wife's resume get kicked by the computer for jobs she had experience in, for incredible glorious jobs of 8 bucks an hour shit like that.
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Difficulty gets confused and sold as impossible too often. It isn't impossible.
 
Smashing Young Man said:
Do these guys not have any testosterone?
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I think all studies show a decline in testosterone and it's not a secret that that results in sluggish behavior in all walks of life not just sex-drive.

Go get your T-levels checked out, you may be surprised that they are indeed lower than they should be. Luckily a few life-style changes can make a dramatic effect and you can start feeling better about everything.
 
lcpiper said:
I was in the same boat. I did 16 years in the Army and then they asked me to leave with early retirement. I took it cause I could see the writing on the wall, my career with the Army was done. So looking for a job and learning a new world where jobs are temporary things was tough.

I know this sounds like tripe, but a man does what a man has to do.

I worked as a contractor for about 8 or 10 years and then I couldn't get work anymore, no one would talk to me. My normal employers all had the same customer, the US Army and the Army had decided that all IT workers must have Security+ Certification. After being turned down for the fifth time, the guy I was interviewing said that he'd love to hire me if I just had Security+.

A man does what he has to do.

I called a job training tech company, scheduled classes for A+. Net+, and Security+ and got a seat on a plane for San Jose. Within three weeks of getting those certs I was working again.

I bet your Dad got passed his "dry spell and I bet you already know this yourself. So just count this post and my comments as reinforcement (y)
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Ah security+.....Just took that course officially still need to schedule the test. It's useless and serves no me no benefit in my job but figure doesn't hurt to pin another achievement badge on my sash.
 
kju1 said:
The way they said it implied to me that they felt if you werent procreating you were not successful. I dont have any kids yet....that I know of anyway. However I am quite successful.

EDIT: Also I think the human race could use a little less propagation. Or at least a higher quality...
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In many other cultures old people can count on their children and even grand children to look after them when they get too feeble to see after themselves. For those cultures, success is indeed tied to successful procreation.

In the US, our culture doesn't have the same values. So we can measure our success with money and possessions.

Maybe we'll even be fortunate enough to have autonomous cars that will do the ass wiping and the money to afford them.
 
lcpiper said:
In many other cultures old people can count on their children and even grand children to look after them when they get too feeble to see after themselves. For those cultures, success is indeed tied to successful procreation.

In the US, our culture doesn't have the same values. So we can measure our success with money and possessions.

Maybe we'll even be fortunate enough to have autonomous cars that will do the ass wiping and the money to afford them.
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Hey I want to die in my own house, not my kid's house. If my wife and I cannot take care of each-other it's our time to go. Damn to hell if i'll just be a burdensome husk on my brood, draining all their resources because they or I can't learn to let go. People need to die, when they're like 60+ you gotta just learn to accept their time is coming.
 
Semantics said:
Hey I want to die in my own house, not my kid's house. If my wife and I cannot take care of each-other it's our time to go. Damn to hell if i'll just be a burdensome husk on my brood, draining all their resources because they or I can't learn to let go. People need to die, when they're like 60+ you gotta just learn to accept their time is coming.
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Well if you take your own medicine, i will respect you in memoriam. That being said , fucking sad state of society people think like this, and will probably get multiple agreements... Complete and absolute success from the upper class. There is class warfare, its just for the mind of people, and we have lost so completely.
 
Smashing Young Man said:
Do these guys not have any testosterone? At that age, my hormones would never had allowed me to do nothing but sit home and play games. I thought about sex all the time, and spent most of my free time in pursuit of it.
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3:1 K.D RATIO in all her games and benge drinking with whores makes fora happy 20s
 
Semantics said:
Hey I want to die in my own house, not my kid's house. If my wife and I cannot take care of each-other it's our time to go. Damn to hell if i'll just be a burdensome husk on my brood, draining all their resources because they or I can't learn to let go. People need to die, when they're like 60+ you gotta just learn to accept their time is coming.
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There's a difference between being a living grease spot in the bed and just an old person that needs some help on occasion. You know, that in-between time.

Oh, and I know some others have to be thinking this, what kind of gamer only thinks or describes games like this guy does? Forget about FPS and RTS and how many other types of games does he?

And just for the record. I thought my trolling was first class up above, first class I say :cry:
 
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I think growing numbers of the population are living at home longer because rent in a growing number of places here in Canada exceeds the cost of a mortgage. In BC, the average price of a home just cleared 700k. Yes, there are cheaper places to live within the province, but the majority of the urban centers have average prices at or above $500k. Even the bare minimum downpayment of 5% is $25k with $100k needed to avoid additional fees. You then have closing costs on top of that $500k which are not insignificant.
A 1 bedroom is $950 to $1250 per month. A 3 bed is around $2000. Beyond that is rare and quite expensive. Add in some student debt and it's not likely that you're going to be in a home after saving for a year or 2. It doesn't help that house prices are going up 15-20% per year. None of it is sustainable, but it's sure hurting a lot of people right now. The bubble/crash will hurt even more.
 
In all fairness, I'm in my 20s, living in my parents house. I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a prestigious east coast college, originally known for Electrical Engineering. I have a project website. I have a proven history of working well with other engineers on challenging projects.
I have been applying for entry level EE jobs for the past two years and I have not received one offer. I have went on close to two dozen interviews. I don't have any "big company" internship experience, because I was not successful at landing one in college. It has been almost impossible for me to land a job. I have taken out resume structuring books and interview books. Still nothing. I have contacted my alumni association and they neglected to help me leverage other alum for connections. There are simply far too few entry level Electrical Engineering jobs so I have to do various side jobs.

What do I do at home?
I fix just about everything for my folks. The logic board failed in my fridge. I troubleshooted it and replaced the switching relays and some temp sensors. The air conditioners failed. I replaced one and replaced the control board on another. The washing machine failed. I replaced the rubber tub boot. The dryer failed. I replaced the dryer belt and felt guide runners. I fixed the retaining wall on my house. switched the lighting over to LEDs, even made some custom fixtures.

These articles do not paint a clear picture of "kids in their 20s."

landing a job is nowhere as easy as it should to be. Our society does not value engineering, math and science as valuable additions to our community.

I am sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I am rather fed up with the mindset that people have of "kids in their twenties living off their parents".
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commissioneranthony said:
I am sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I am rather fed up with the mindset that people have of "kids in their twenties living off their parents".
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You're definitely not the stereotype, and you at least have been putting in an effort to do something, and sound like you take initiative.

It is those of us who do live with their parents, and who have no initiative, who give us a bad name. (I'm 29. I've lived on my own since I was 17).
 
commissioneranthony said:
In all fairness, I'm in my 20s, living in my parents house. I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a prestigious east coast college, originally known for Electrical Engineering. I have a project website. I have a proven history of working well with other engineers on challenging projects.
I have been applying for entry level EE jobs for the past two years and I have not received one offer. I have went on close to two dozen interviews. I don't have any "big company" internship experience, because I was not successful at landing one in college. It has been almost impossible for me to land a job. I have taken out resume structuring books and interview books. Still nothing. I have contacted my alumni association and they neglected to help me leverage other alum for connections. There are simply far too few entry level Electrical Engineering jobs so I have to do various side jobs.

What do I do at home?
I fix just about everything for my folks. The logic board failed in my fridge. I troubleshooted it and replaced the switching relays and some temp sensors. The air conditioners failed. I replaced one and replaced the control board on another. The washing machine failed. I replaced the rubber tub boot. The dryer failed. I replaced the dryer belt and felt guide runners. I fixed the retaining wall on my house. switched the lighting over to LEDs, even made some custom fixtures.

These articles do not paint a clear picture of "kids in their 20s."

landing a job is nowhere as easy as it should to be. Our society does not value engineering, math and science as valuable additions to our community.

I am sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I am rather fed up with the mindset that people have of "kids in their twenties living off their parents".
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Start working the line at a factory. Not saying this to be smug, but seriously. Get your foot in the door somewhere and apply from within. Friend of mine was in the same boat as an engineer and started working night shifts at a diaper factory. Makes bank now and designs assembly lines.
 
scojer said:
You're definitely not the stereotype, and you at least have been putting in an effort to do something, and sound like you take initiative.

It is those of us who do live with their parents, and who have no initiative, who give us a bad name. (I'm 29. I've lived on my own since I was 17).
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Thanks, this means a lot.

Pusher of Buttons said:
Start working the line at a factory. Not saying this to be smug, but seriously. Get your foot in the door somewhere and apply from within. Friend of mine was in the same boat as an engineer and started working night shifts at a diaper factory. Makes bank now and designs assembly lines.
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Absolutely. I've been trying to contact some family friends to even get in somewhere as a low level job. Hopefully I'll find something soon. I've also started designing my own electrical devices so if all else fails, I can sell a physical product of my own creation and not have to waste more time applying. Thanks.
 
commissioneranthony said:
Absolutely. I've been trying to contact some family friends to even get in somewhere as a low level job. Hopefully I'll find something soon. I've also started designing my own electrical devices so if all else fails, I can sell a physical product of my own creation and not have to waste more time applying. Thanks.
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Should look into "railroad signal jobs." Entry level positions can start at over $25/hr, no degree or experience needed. Signal trainee, signal apprentice, signal technician etc. Just be willing to relocate. That's where I started, I was one of these young men that played video games all day, living at home working part time here and there. Didn't start my career until 25. 9 years later, I'm doing better than I could have ever imagined.

Friend of mine is 22 working for a railroad signal contractor, no degree and a couple years experience. Makes 80k base, employer pays his rent, benefits, take home company vehicle etc.

There are places that are looking for signal engineering apprentices as well that want to see a BS electrical engineering degree, it's what many Signal Engineers hold.
 
Poik said:
I think growing numbers of the population are living at home longer because rent in a growing number of places here in Canada exceeds the cost of a mortgage. In BC, the average price of a home just cleared 700k. Yes, there are cheaper places to live within the province, but the majority of the urban centers have average prices at or above $500k. Even the bare minimum downpayment of 5% is $25k with $100k needed to avoid additional fees. You then have closing costs on top of that $500k which are not insignificant.
A 1 bedroom is $950 to $1250 per month. A 3 bed is around $2000. Beyond that is rare and quite expensive. Add in some student debt and it's not likely that you're going to be in a home after saving for a year or 2. It doesn't help that house prices are going up 15-20% per year. None of it is sustainable, but it's sure hurting a lot of people right now. The bubble/crash will hurt even more.
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Rent where I live has always been higher than a mortgage. But I lived in houses when I first dropped out of college and was making crap money. We just pooled money between a few of us to rent from someone. Divide up the mortgage and utility bills of a house between a bunch of people and it's pretty affordable.
 
The Kombucha Mushroom People sitting around all day. Something something old people are crabby.
 
I screwed up. I went to college not knowing what I wanted to do and graduated (7 years later) still not knowing what I want to do. I worked as a cashier for many years while going to school, then as a video game tester for 5 years, and then teaching English in Japan and dislike it. All of the jobs I've had payed minimum wage or close to it, and now at 33 I don't know what to do. No skills that I can make money with, no kids, not even a girlfriend. Only play games to not feel so depressed. Thinking about what kind of job I will do next..
 
Gabriel2 said:
I screwed up. I went to college not knowing what I wanted to do and graduated (7 years later) still not knowing what I want to do. I worked as a cashier for many years while going to school, then as a video game tester for 5 years, and then teaching English in Japan and dislike it. All of the jobs I've had payed minimum wage or close to it, and now at 33 I don't know what to do. No skills that I can make money with, no kids, not even a girlfriend. Only play games to not feel so depressed. Thinking about what kind of job I will do next..
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Try to see what jobs you can get with less school (like 1-2 years at a community college) that the idea of sounds better to you than a cashier. Your life isn't over, you just have a disadvantage, except for no kids, that's actually a major advantage in your situation. Either that or join one of those intentional communities and get ready to do a lot of farmwork, a lot of those are unlikely to turn away people willing to work. You won't get rich, but you might have a group that can look after each other too.
 
Wasted the first year of my life after college doing nothing, but playing a game. Had no idea what I wanted to do. Then basically quit it, got a job and got on with my life.

Games are fun, but eventually you will burn out on them and you don't want to wake up 10 years later and realize you wasted your life on some addiction. Go do something.
 
Gabriel2 said:
I screwed up. I went to college not knowing what I wanted to do and graduated (7 years later) still not knowing what I want to do. I worked as a cashier for many years while going to school, then as a video game tester for 5 years, and then teaching English in Japan and dislike it. All of the jobs I've had payed minimum wage or close to it, and now at 33 I don't know what to do. No skills that I can make money with, no kids, not even a girlfriend. Only play games to not feel so depressed. Thinking about what kind of job I will do next..
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Look, I started off the same. But if you have a college degree and basic office skills, get a temp job - you might land something you like. On top of that, it will pay better. If you work hard, they will generally almost always convert you. You also get to see what others are doing outside of cashiering and what you might like. Bottom line, you get an opportunity to try something new and make a little more money in the process.

Once you have that under your belt, it's easier for you to go to another company or move into a position that you think you would really like.

Being financially stable also attracts women. Minimum wage is only meant for one person to live on - you have to move on!

If you want to feel better about yourself - start working out! It really helps with depression. Endorphins are a natural high that boost your mood for most of the day and can be its own addiction. Looking better also makes alot of people feel better about themselves and helps attracts the ladies.

But what most attracts women? Attitude. That comes from self-confidence. The only way that is going to change is if you try something to change yourself and figure out who you want to be.
 
I wonder how much of this (assuming the article can be taken at face value) is due to society pressure of the very concept of "successful".

I have seen many people turn away blue collar jobs that pay twice the minimum wage for a desk job worth minimum wage because of the social conception that no blue-collar job is "real job", even if that job actually requires very highly qualified and educated work force. A minor exception is if that company is extremely well known, otherwise parents actively drill into their children's heads that academic performance directly correlates to success. There is a historical reason for this thinking (something I will not bore you with), but the harsh reality is, that is not applicable in a world where a masters degree here is worth comparatively less than a bachelor's degree elsewhere, but the kids STILL think that holding a master's degree makes every blue collar job below them, so they are willing to not have a job than to have to look for a blue-collar one.

Hence we have a rather big problem, no skilled workforce and not enough desk jobs.

Military service is in a class of its own, far BELOW a blue-collar job, due to the fact we still have conscription, people go in with a negative attitude and come out with a worse attitude about the military that the society treats them like shit. Police force is a bit, but not a whole lot better.

Essentially, the society backed their attitude into a corner, and there is only a few ways out: booze, drugs, crime and video games.

Would kicking them out help them? Depends on the situation, but I believe it will simply make matters worse, as it merely reinforces that idea on OTHER parents mind that those guys are lazy bums and drill the same kind of thinking into their kids, starting a vicious cycle, or they turn to other forms of "outs" which makes matters worse.

I believe the only solution to the problem is breaking the stigma of "blue collar" and stop idolising education as ticket to success, as that train as already long left the station and has already been retired for scrap.
 
Being unemployed and only playing games is clearly an issue. But if someone works and wants to spend their life something they enjoy, then who cares. Even if all they do is low skilled work. You only live once, do whatever you want with it in your free time. I have a disabled older brother who just plays games all day, he could definitely do low skilled work if he really tried. But his disability really fucks with his mind and so he has this dumb idea that since he tried before and no one would hire him then that, that means no one will hire him now. So therefore he gives up before even trying. (And he really did try, even work rehab programs where people flat out told him they couldn't help him.)
This is hard to overcome for a normal 20 something, for someone with a disability. They feel twice as fucked.

I also hate this group think mentality that you have to get laid or get married and have kids(and contribute to overpopulation) to be successful or be happy.

I live with my parents and I am 26, I work full time and just got a raise to 14$ an hour(I live in Oregon). Rent is still high, and I don't want to have a roommate I don't already know. So that makes it difficult for one. On the other hand, I was unemployed for 3 years and am playing catch up. What did I do for those 3 years? I didn't play games actually. I was depressed, but I spent most of my time recording music. I started teaching myself recording and how to use DAWs at 16, and I had planned on going to school to work in professional audio or music. I had a plan, and then last year one day randomly I became I'll and acquired minor asymmetrical hearing loss, Tinnitus and TMJ. I also lost about 30lbs in the process.(average of 5db at a few frequencies. But to my trained ears, it was a devastating difference. Depending on the content, this can ruin the critical listening experience). I took good care of my ears, I treasured them. I never went to concerts or listened to music very loudly. I often listened quietly. And I felt like the universe just gave me the biggest middle finger possible to my life long aspirations and hard work. It has been a nightmare, I waited 9 months to see a doctor and no one could tell me a damn thing concrete. It has been the toughest thing I have ever done. But slowly I have been building back to trying to live a decent life and work at the job I do have. I have the potential to have a lifelong career at this place, but it still isn't what I really wanted to do and spent almost half my life training for.

I still haven't decided what I am going to really do. I don't know if I can really truly do audio work with all the health issues with my ears,sinus and jaw that all happen in concert. (Constant discomfort and aching, etd,sinus congestion, post nasal drip that makes speaking difficult,Tinnitus)But in the meantime I do have a decent job and work with great people.
Do I still play games a ton? Not really to be honest. I would love to however. I work full time and work out 6-7 days a week, live at home haven't been in relationship in years(and I have no problem with that what so ever). And I still feel like I don't really have enough time to play games. Responsibility comes first. Ugh..

That reminds me of why I still haven't upgraded past a first gen i7. I don't get to play games as much as I would like. I almost feel bad for having fun playing games, like I don't deserve to have fun.(contradictory to my above statement about doing what you want with your life ). Though I did recently finally get to play through Return to Na Pali on a crt@75hz. It was great since it was short enough to fit in with what time I have.
 
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commissioneranthony said:
In all fairness, I'm in my 20s, living in my parents house. I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from a prestigious east coast college, originally known for Electrical Engineering. I have a project website. I have a proven history of working well with other engineers on challenging projects.
I have been applying for entry level EE jobs for the past two years and I have not received one offer. I have went on close to two dozen interviews. I don't have any "big company" internship experience, because I was not successful at landing one in college. It has been almost impossible for me to land a job. I have taken out resume structuring books and interview books. Still nothing. I have contacted my alumni association and they neglected to help me leverage other alum for connections. There are simply far too few entry level Electrical Engineering jobs so I have to do various side jobs.

What do I do at home?
I fix just about everything for my folks. The logic board failed in my fridge. I troubleshooted it and replaced the switching relays and some temp sensors. The air conditioners failed. I replaced one and replaced the control board on another. The washing machine failed. I replaced the rubber tub boot. The dryer failed. I replaced the dryer belt and felt guide runners. I fixed the retaining wall on my house. switched the lighting over to LEDs, even made some custom fixtures.

These articles do not paint a clear picture of "kids in their 20s."

landing a job is nowhere as easy as it should to be. Our society does not value engineering, math and science as valuable additions to our community.

I am sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I am rather fed up with the mindset that people have of "kids in their twenties living off their parents".
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I lived with my parents after I completed college and had a job as a software developer. I was making almost 2X what my parents made salary-wise. I saved up money for a nice down payment on a house. Like you, I helped out around the house, help my parents remodel part of their home, etc. Eventually, it was time to leave the nest. I found it was hard to tell women I might want to date about my living situation :)
Looking back, had I stayed course - I would be very wealthy. I also would never get laid, so ... choices.
 
I work in IT, but I work for a large construction organization. They can't get people to work. Constant worker shortage. Like was mentioned previously, blue collar jobs are below below people, and so many young people certainly have a "I deserve..." mentality. Every young generation has lazy people, sure. The last 10 years have been nuts though.

My example. The org I work for will take anyone that can rub two brain cells together. They pay well over min wage while they put you through 3 to 5 years of training. You work part time, but get paid for full time. Each year as long as you show up and even half ass your work you get a 20-30% raise. After you get out of training, you make 2-3× the local median income, plus they have crazy good benifits.

Now, to top that off, they have a scholorship/grant program that if you ask for it, they will buy you clothes, tools, books, whatever you want (about 5k a year) in addition to training.

They can't get people to work. The people they get at least half quit. I've asked some why. Not a single one has said the job sucked, or didn't like the people they work with. Most just disnt like working. Many said they earned enough to buy a car, pay off debt, etc. and don't see a need to keep a job.

wth. Kids, you will have to buy more stuff later! Keep a job!
 
mord said:
Like was mentioned previously, blue collar jobs are below below people,
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No its that those "blue collar" construction jobs usually pay crap, treat their workers like crap, highly seasonal and/or don't offer steady employment, and are quite hard work too. Nobody sane or sensible is going to want to do that.

mord said:
so many young people certainly have a "I deserve..." mentality
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You realize pre and immediately post WWII the young would either strike or riot if they didn't get good wages, benefits, and/or treatment right and frequently joined up with a union for extra protection on top of that right? This generation's response to the crap tier labor market and economy has been relatively mild compared to what has happened in the past. The closest you saw to any of the sort of movements of the past recently was OWS and they were too disorganized to do much of anything.

mord said:
My example.
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