7 US Tech Companies Pile on Google

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Some very prominent tech companies have sent a letter to Margrethe Vestager, the European Commissioner of Competition, which we are learning about on the heels of the $2.7B fine announced yesterday. It seems that these companies want regulatory action against Google and are not afraid to ask for it.

Google ( or, to be more accurate, Alphabet ) is so huge at this point - and has its hands in so many different industries - that it is fighting a war on a seemingly infinite number of fronts. That inevitably wins the company many enemies, and while their voice is unified in the letter sent to the European Commission, each of them have their own motives for supporting regulatory action against Google and its parent company.

The list of companies that include Disconnect, Inc., Getty Images, Inc., News Corporation, News Media Alliance, Oracle Corporation, Trip.com, and Yelp Inc. have some fairly solid beefs against the Alphabet giant.
 
Oh look, a bunch of companies that rely on ad revenue want to stick it to Google, the biggest competitor to ad revenue based companies. Problem is google has a much better service at reaching a targeted audience than these other companies can ever hope to achieve. Google built an empire on information collection, and nobody has said anything until now.

Even if they somehow manage to achieve a best case scenario crippling defeat of google, they still have facebook and twitter to deal with, which is where all the ad revenue will go if it doesn't go to google.
 
Wiffle said:
Oh look, a bunch of companies that rely on ad revenue want to stick it to Google, the biggest competitor to ad revenue based companies. Problem is google has a much better service at reaching a targeted audience than these other companies can ever hope to achieve. Google built an empire on information collection, and nobody has said anything until now.

Even if they somehow manage to achieve a best case scenario crippling defeat of google, they still have facebook and twitter to deal with, which is where all the ad revenue will go if it doesn't go to google.
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Your entirely right, I just wanted to point out that Google is a ad revenue based company. It relies on ad revenue just as much as the other companies.
 
I wonder if the EU will go after Amazon at some point, since Amazon sells everything. Amazon's new mission goal is basically to take a piece of all economic activity.
 
J3RK said:
I'm not a fan of Getty, and I outright hate Oracle. I may not be the biggest Google fan either, but I hope they grind these bitches into the ground. Fucking Oracle... don't get me started on Oracle...
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What's wrong with oracle? :p
 
grtitan said:
Hmm, i wonder which one of those MS is hidding behind.

And to fuel the shills, not the first time they did this.
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What ever you're saying Microsoft has done before, Microsoft wouldn't have to lift a finger to encourage Oracle to go after Google. None of these companies would need Microsoft to encourage them to go after Google, they've been doing on their own for years, especially Oracle.
 
I bet most people have a favorable opinion of Google than Microsoft when it comes to Google Search vs Windows OS.
 
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Google? I hate them. They shove their politics at me every day. No thanks. I just want a search engine...which doesn't lie.

I've been using Bing for a while. Yeah, I know. I've just discovered Duckduckgo and so far I'm liking it.

Competition and a free market...yadda, yadda.
 
c3k said:
Google? I hate them. They shove their politics at me every day. No thanks. I just want a search engine...which doesn't lie.

I've been using Bing for a while. Yeah, I know. I've just discovered Duckduckgo and so far I'm liking it.

Competition and a free market...yadda, yadda.
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Google doesnt lie to me nor shove politics at me.
 
kju1 said:
Google doesnt lie to me nor shove politics at me.
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Umm...by "searching" for stuff and then selectively editing what is the "top" result, that's a lie. You may LIKE that, and it may make your life easier and better, but it's still a lie. That is not the "top" result: it is Google's selected top result.
Similarly, they are definitely political with their choices of "google" art and results. You may LIKE that, and it may make your life less conflicted, but they still do it.

Notice that I don't say that Google should be shut down, banished, forced to change? Nope. That's not the way... (Now, an antifa would take the fascist approach and try to shut down dissenting views through threats of economic retaliation and outright violence. Kind of fascist, huh?) Instead, I choose not to use Google. I turn to open market solutions which fit my worldview. You are welcome to those that fit yours. However, facts are facts: Google lies and pushes their politics.
 
c3k said:
Umm...by "searching" for stuff and then selectively editing what is the "top" result, that's a lie. You may LIKE that, and it may make your life easier and better, but it's still a lie. That is not the "top" result: it is Google's selected top result.
Similarly, they are definitely political with their choices of "google" art and results. You may LIKE that, and it may make your life less conflicted, but they still do it.

Notice that I don't say that Google should be shut down, banished, forced to change? Nope. That's not the way... (Now, an antifa would take the fascist approach and try to shut down dissenting views through threats of economic retaliation and outright violence. Kind of fascist, huh?) Instead, I choose not to use Google. I turn to open market solutions which fit my worldview. You are welcome to those that fit yours. However, facts are facts: Google lies and pushes their politics.
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Thank you for assuming that I use google to search for political items and for assuming that I look a their "top result". So no google does not shove politics down my throat nor do they lie to me.

Do you even understand how search rankings work? If you think all the other engines dont do the same thing with their results (albeit with differing ranking rules)....
 
I don't like Google as much as anyone and the thought of Alphabet having influence in almost everything makes me slightly uneasy, but that is a list of scumbag companies right there.
 
Google is pretty scary. Relying anything that those other companies say for use in going after Google is pretty scary also.
 
Old_Way said:
Google is pretty scary. Relying anything that those other companies say for use in going after Google is pretty scary also.
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Agreed. I have to weigh which companies are the worst, and Google comes in a bit further down the list as some of those.
 
You can always count on companies doing what they think is best for them. Google is no different in that regard. They are more pretentious with their "do no evil" mantra. But what really sets them apart from the rest is just how big Google is, and how many pies they have their fat fingers in. Their reach and influence is truly scary.
 
kju1 said:
Thank you for assuming that I use google to search for political items and for assuming that I look a their "top result". So no google does not shove politics down my throat nor do they lie to me.

Do you even understand how search rankings work? If you think all the other engines dont do the same thing with their results (albeit with differing ranking rules)....
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So, you DON'T use Google. Why didn't you just say so instead of being so obtuse?

Shrug.
 
c3k said:
So, you DON'T use Google. Why didn't you just say so instead of being so obtuse?

Shrug.
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False. I DO use google. Just not for political items. Ergo they cannot "force their politics" on me. And I dont view page ranking as "lies".
 
J3RK said:
I'm not a fan of Getty, and I outright hate Oracle. I may not be the biggest Google fan either, but I hope they grind these bitches into the ground. Fucking Oracle... don't get me started on Oracle...
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Are you bashing oracle on a public forum? I believe that puts you in violation of their licensing agreement.....

But seriously, what kind of DB engine charges that much for licenses and prohibits anyone from posting performance metrics.... Only a company with a shitty engine wouldn't want stuff like that posted.... A company like oracle.
 
kju1 said:
False. I DO use google. Just not for political items. Ergo they cannot "force their politics" on me. And I dont view page ranking as "lies".
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Oh. Well, ANY user gets the Google politics treatment, so you do get their politics thrown in your face. You either don't see it or you agree with it. Your choice. Same for how you view their rankings. Your choice.

Google lies and is very political.
 
c3k said:
Oh. Well, ANY user gets the Google politics treatment, so you do get their politics thrown in your face. You either don't see it or you agree with it. Your choice. Same for how you view their rankings. Your choice.

Google lies and is very political.
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Riiight its all a big conspiracy. Explain to me how a search for "xystus designs" is politicized by them or in any way contains a lie.

You either dont get it or just want to see a conspiracy.
 
c3k said:
Horse, meet water.

Out.
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All you have done is made accusations without any proof. You claim all search results are politicized and contain lies. Show the proof that every result from google is a lie and contains politicized results...
 
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