Pixel 2 “Walleye” and “Taimen” Specifications Revealed

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XDA-Developers has received what they believe to be the finalized specifications for the new Pixel phones due later this year. The larger device, “Taimen,” features a 5.99-inch, 1440p display, Snapdragon 835 processor, and 4GB of RAM, while the smaller device, “Walleye,” features a 4.97-inch, 1080p display with the same innards. Apparently, the latter definitely lacks a headphone jack.

The larger device coming from Google this year will feature a 5.99-inch display with a 1440p OLED panel provided by LG, which isn’t extraordinary given that earlier this year, Reuters reported about Google investing into LG’s display division for their next phone. The phone will sport a smaller bezel than what we saw in the original Pixel XL, and there is a 128GB storage model, though it might not be the only configuration. The device will indeed pack the expected Snapdragon 835 processor (with the big cluster clocked at the reference 2.45GHz frequency, unlike the original Pixel’s lower frequency in the Snapdragon 821-AB) alongside 4GB of RAM.
 
Dropping the headphone jack?

Here's the thing, they can drop the jack but they need to replace it with a streamlined standard, since I assume it's a size issue. Bluetooth is not the replacement for it.

I don't think users are opposed to adapters if they're cheap (but quality), non-cumbersome, and they don't prevent you also charging the phone. That's where Apple (and the companies like HTC that tried it before) screwed up. If the adapters are small and cheap enough, people can afford to put them on every pair of headphones until the new standard works it's way into actual products. The issues come when you force it into the same port as the power. Heck, switch from a 3.5mm to a 2.5mm to save some size.

TLdr;
If manufacturers (Apple included) are really having an issue with the size of the jack, they should work together to create a streamlined standard. Get the adapters out for cheap and widely available (also included), and don't use the damn power port.
 
Dropping the headphone jack?

Here's the thing, they can drop the jack but they need to replace it with a streamlined standard, since I assume it's a size issue. Bluetooth is not the replacement for it.

I don't think users are opposed to adapters if they're cheap (but quality), non-cumbersome, and they don't prevent you also charging the phone. That's where Apple (and the companies like HTC that tried it before) screwed up. If the adapters are small and cheap enough, people can afford to put them on every pair of headphones until the new standard works it's way into actual products. The issues come when you force it into the same port as the power. Heck, switch from a 3.5mm to a 2.5mm to save some size.

TLdr;
If manufacturers (Apple included) are really having an issue with the size of the jack, they should work together to create a streamlined standard. Get the adapters out for cheap and widely available (also included), and don't use the damn power port.
That's the thing. It companies can't work to gather to make a unified standard. Especially apple. They all want their own thing. If it is a size concern then make the damn thing 1mm thicker for fuck shakes. Phones are more then think enough for years. It is going to get to the point that they will break their phone by accidentally sitting on it. When will companies realize that people don't buy Iphones for the features but for the name and stop trying to copy them.
 
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The other part of the news is that it looks like LG will be making one of the devices and many people are already concerned about the device quality.

My search for a Nexus 6 replacement is turning into a mess.
 
Dropping the headphone jack?

Here's the thing, they can drop the jack but they need to replace it with a streamlined standard, since I assume it's a size issue. Bluetooth is not the replacement for it.

I don't think users are opposed to adapters if they're cheap (but quality), non-cumbersome, and they don't prevent you also charging the phone. That's where Apple (and the companies like HTC that tried it before) screwed up. If the adapters are small and cheap enough, people can afford to put them on every pair of headphones until the new standard works it's way into actual products. The issues come when you force it into the same port as the power. Heck, switch from a 3.5mm to a 2.5mm to save some size.

TLdr;
If manufacturers (Apple included) are really having an issue with the size of the jack, they should work together to create a streamlined standard. Get the adapters out for cheap and widely available (also included), and don't use the damn power port.

Or better yet, add back in the half mm and use it for a bigger battery. Problem solved. The obsession with ever thinner, is like most obsessions, self defeating. There is no point in thinner considering all the compromises that it requires, headphone jack least of all.

As far as adapters, I think users fundamentally hate adapters and dongles of all kinds. Its basically another thing for them to lose.
 
I was hoping that the new pixel xl 2 will have the screen size of the note 8 (6.3 in). No headphone jack, no expandable memory, smaller screen, ? water resistance, I may have to go back to the Note series this year.
 
Sorry, no head phone jack is a no-go for me. I use my phone a lot with headphones and in my car with an aux cable. I like that it's there and its a simple "it just works" part of the phone with not having to mess with the Bluetooth not working or an adaptor going missing.
You people really do love the jack. There are adapters. Or better yet Bluetooth headphones which if my AirPods are any indication are going to be amazing. No cords is the shit. Seriously just try before you write it off and bogus
 
You people really do love the jack. There are adapters. Or better yet Bluetooth headphones which if my AirPods are any indication are going to be amazing. No cords is the shit. Seriously just try before you write it off and bogus
I have tried them, several in fact and among the annoyances I experienced is lower quality and severe interference by other devices, which makes the music jump, lose connection, etc.

Plus, the worse is having another damn device that I have to worry about charging.
 
I have tried them, several in fact and among the annoyances I experienced is lower quality and severe interference by other devices, which makes the music jump, lose connection, etc.

Plus, the worse is having another damn device that I have to worry about charging.

Fair enough. I've never had those issues with my AirPods and my iPhone. Might be an Android thing.
 
Fair enough. I've never had those issues with my AirPods and my iPhone. Might be an Android thing.
Must be honest, I wonder that myself.

And I might test that with an iPhone, if Google doesn't do something about their prices and 2 years lifespan of their pixels phones, I could end up with an iPhone for the first time.
 
Must be honest, I wonder that myself.

And I might test that with an iPhone, if Google doesn't do something about their prices and 2 years lifespan of their pixels phones, I could end up with an iPhone for the first time.

Not sure what bluetooth devices you tested it with. I have the Beats Studio Wireless, Sony MDR-1000x, and the Bose QC35. The QC35 can cut out now and then, and the Beats before the last firmware update but the Sony's have yet to have any issue with my Z2 or any of my iDevices.
 
Agreed. Make the phones thicker, keep the audio jack and add a bigger battery.

Seriously? Who ever complained about phones being too thick?

People's chief complaint are big bad battery life and performance.
 
Fair enough. I've never had those issues with my AirPods and my iPhone. Might be an Android thing.

Your apple fanboy smugness is showing. And you forgot to quote this part:
Plus, the worse is having another damn device that I have to worry about charging.
Which we damn well know iphone owners know all about.
 
Fair enough. I've never had those issues with my AirPods and my iPhone. Might be an Android thing.
It's a high density gym thing... iPhone or Android. If there are more than 50 people in the same area in a large or high density gym the bandwidth can't keep up and goes to crap. This especially applies to deployed soldiers. I'm currently in Iraq and you cannot use wireless headphones at the gym with huge issues no matter the platform.
 
I thought Bluetooth was a point to point protocol and being such short distances it shouldn’t be an issue. I guess I am wrong.
 
Your apple fanboy smugness is showing. And you forgot to quote this part: Which we damn well know iphone owners know all about.
Because my AirPods legit don’t suck I’m automatically a fan boy? They actually work great. Nonzealotry here
 
It's a high density gym thing... iPhone or Android. If there are more than 50 people in the same area in a large or high density gym the bandwidth can't keep up and goes to crap. This especially applies to deployed soldiers. I'm currently in Iraq and you cannot use wireless headphones at the gym with huge issues no matter the platform.

In my case, when I'm in NYC, for some reason, when I get to a corner, the connection will be absolutely broken and I suspect that is something about the equipments on the corners, not the other people around me. But yes, in confined places with other people also using wireless devices, it also drops like crazy.

I thought Bluetooth was a point to point protocol and being such short distances it shouldn’t be an issue. I guess I am wrong.

As mentioned above, the bandwidth is the issue. It gets so bad that i need to pull my phone from my pocket and place it right next to the headphone if i dont want interruptions.
 
Sorry, no head phone jack is a no-go for me. I use my phone a lot with headphones and in my car with an aux cable. I like that it's there and its a simple "it just works" part of the phone with not having to mess with the Bluetooth not working or an adaptor going missing.
Resistance is futile... And your technological distinctiveness of a headphone jack is not accepted.
 
Resistance is futile... And your technological distinctiveness of a headphone jack is not accepted.

And yet I resist lol.

I do own a pair of Bluetooth headphones but there are plenty of times where I have forgotten to charge them so it's simple to just grab the pair of headphones from my pc to use. And adapters are too easy to misplace I find.

This isn't the replacement of cassette tapes to cds we are talking about here. It's more like forcing you to switch to Wireless charging for your phone instead of having a plug.
 
I couldn't care less about the headphone jack. I dislike rear fingerprint sensors, but am going to give it another try with the bigger Pixel 2.
 
Seriously? Who ever complained about phones being too thick?

The people that have complained how some phones can not fit into certain pants pockets; or that thicker phones aren't "sexy and sleek".

Ya know, those people that prefer form over function, who will gladly drop $700+ on the next iteration of their phone because it's 0.05" thinner.

I myself wouldn't mind a 9+mm thick phone with the latest hardware and a massive battery, but I know it'll never happen.
 
2:1 ratio? Never really looked to into why phones keep getting skinnier. I personally don't see the appeal although admittedly I've never used one. Guessing it's a cost savings thing wrapped in glittery "it's new and different and better." I don't own any bluetooth headphones so I'd prefer not to have to deal with adapters. What other alternatives exist with stock or near-stock Android? And receive regular updates? Just 4GBs of ram on the top-end phone? Definitely less excited about the Pixel 2's now.
 
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Seriously? Who ever complained about phones being too thick?

People's chief complaint are big bad battery life and performance.

First thing I do is put my phone in an otterbox defender (because I drop this thing constantly) and I like the thicker grip it gives the phone. When I take it out of the case I feel like it is a fragile fall leaf that I must gently touch or it will break haha.
 
So, they're saying the larger device retains the headphone jack, while the smaller device does not.

What's the problem here? Want the jack? Get the larger phone.

*shrug*
 
I read a rumor in another article where the screens for the Pixel 2 may be in a 2:1 ratio. If true, that would be a non-starter for me - I much prefer the standard 16:9 screens. I also prefer IPS over AMOLED because of the potential for burn-in (I had forgotten about that issue when I bought the original Pixel).

Don't use full brightness. Have had my XL since launch and there isn't a hint of burn in. The people having problems keep their brightness at max all the time.
 
^^ Same with my OP 3T. I just keep it on adaptive brightness.
 
Don't use full brightness. Have had my XL since launch and there isn't a hint of burn in. The people having problems keep their brightness at max all the time.

Yeah, makes it hard to use navigation apps in direct sunlight though.

When you have an AMOLED scree. There are just certain things you can't do without risking damage. I hate that.

I'd pick an IPS screen over AMOLED on any of my mobile devices for that reason.
 
So, they're saying the larger device retains the headphone jack, while the smaller device does not.

What's the problem here? Want the jack? Get the larger phone.

*shrug*


I don't want a bigger phone.

I'd even pay more for a smaller phone than a bigger one, if it meant I got the features I want.
 
I thought Bluetooth was a point to point protocol and being such short distances it shouldn’t be an issue. I guess I am wrong.

In the US it doesn't matter if it is point to point, the FCC requires that it not be shielded from interference. All radio wave producing devices must comply with part 15.

(b) Operation of an intentional, unintentional, or incidental radiator is subject to the conditions that no harmful interference is caused and that interference must be accepted that may be caused by the operation of an authorized radio station, by another intentional or unintentional radiator, by industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) equipment, or by an incidental radiator.

Basically any consumer device that you can buy is subject to this. It means that any type of interference, be it from .Gov/Military activities or just civilian non intentional interference from say a crowed venue.

In some situations where there is a lot of interference ie, Gyms,Sporting Events,Concerts etc... it can be a real issue for things like bluetooth and wifi hotspots to work correctly.

There are times when a wired connection is best, just like with networking.

This artical is pretty interesting about all the things they do in large sporting events to get everyone's cell phone to work:
http://www.networkworld.com/article...twork-built-to-handle-record-web-traffic.html
 
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