How to get a Ryzen 1700 and motherboard for free -- (buy a System - sell off extra parts on eBay)

ssnyder28 said:
I think a lot of people have been buying these up
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maybe but their site changes prices daily and even in the same day system prices vary depending on what "deal" you click on to customize. not sure if this is a some marketing strategy, incompetence or they simply don't care to be consistent.
 
Archaea said:
It's more than a "pretty good" value...



Figure after selling the included two RX470 on eBay including fees, the graphics cards should net at the very minimum $600!

So those two GPU sales alone make your purchase price $400 or even $350.

For that $350 or $400 you get a 1000W Gold Rated power supply ($100), a nice well reviewed X370 mobo($150), a nice case ($80), 3 extra RGB fans($40), 240GB SSD ($50), 16GB DDR ram ($100), Ryzen 1700 8 core CPU ($300), mechanical keyboard ($100), AC WiFi dongle ($10), Closed loop liquid cooler ($60). (and extra cyberpower branded keyboard and mouse) The remaining stuff totals out over $1k in street price from amazon or newegg.

If this was packaged in a way that didn't require selling a couple cards on eBay there'd be a line a mile long for this deal.

IMO, it's far better than a 'pretty good' value...

So long as the RX470 value holds. And it WILL hold (or even increase) until the mining difficulty jumps up -- which is suspected to be in the next 3-4 months. (not the next 2 weeks).

Mining gets more popular every single day. I've heard there are about 40,000 new miners jumping on the bandwagon every single day.
Both Nvidia and AMD cards (used and new) are slowing raising in price weekly as more and more miners jump into the fray.

There hasn't been a great deal on slickdeals for video cards lately - and the reason is they don't need to discount cards to sell everything they have that is a midrange, efficient power consumption card.
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You make some pretty good points. I guess I'm going to take the leap! Nobody ever get's ahead without taking some chance. But you did estimate a little high. And I don't think they give you the extra 3 fans as well as the fans already installed in the case. I'm pretty sure they just replace them with the upgrade and keep the original fans
 
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wadec22 said:
is that 400-500 before or after electric bill?
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I don't think that mining stat progress figures in the electric bill.

But this one does and includes a field for you to put in your city's electric charge.
https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc


With those three cards running I'm making supposedly right now $21.45 per day. No way electricity at 900 watts power draw on my two machines is $21.45 per day. Your fridge and freezer probably draws close to the same power each day?!?! And your house Central AC much much more with it's 30 amp 240 volt breaker. As a loose guesstimate, my electricity bill will be about $75ish more per month at .12 per kwh in Kansas City Mo area. So I have to mine for about 4 days to cover my electricity for the month. That's my early estimate. I'll find out more after I've been at this more than a few days. I will admit my monthly total expectation has dropped $100 since I started Monday night. (Intially it said $550 per month, right now it says $469 expectation --- it varies pretty significantly hour to hour. I've seen it as low as $400 monthly expectation, and as high as about $580 monthly expecatation.). I played games one night and turned the Fury X miners offline. Other than that I can't explain the drop, except that it's a real time estimate, and perhaps the difficulty is going up? My hash speed seems plenty acceptable on the cards. My two Fury X are hashing at 86.1MH/s total right now - which is actually faster than most calcs say they should be. (most calcs say more like 32 MH per card for daggerhasimoto on Fury X.)

Same for LyraRev2. My 1080TI should be hashing at 64MH/s according to the calc, but you can see it's actually hashing at like 81MH/s right now.

maybe I have goooood power. :)

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don't think you're drawing 900 watts, 1080ti tdp is 250w. Also something is wrong with your hash rates. 86.1 for a solo 1080ti is not possible, should more like 35 mh/s.
 
cpuspeed said:
don't think you're drawing 900 watts, 1080ti tdp is 250w. Also something is wrong with your hash rates. 86.1 for a solo 1080ti is not possible, should more like 35 mh/s.
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Watts
~275 for each Fury X
255 for 1080ti
~50 for each pc. (Both watercooled and overclocked but basically idle CPU)

~550 50 + 255 + 50 ~ 800 ish I suppose.
~85% efficiency PSU.

Somewhere around 800-900 watts


As to hash rate. My 1080ti is doing lyrarev2 mostly. It consistently says about $8 or $8.50 per day on the nicehash miner for that Card alone. MH/s varies some but I linked my mining stats on the last page. You can see for yourself.
 
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Yes its a great deal, I priced up the parts assuming its a Rosewill 1000w PSU and I got about $900 if I were to buy all of it myself (that was not including the 2 RX470's just what is left over). The build after 5% came to: $958.55 - Expected ship date is 7/7

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I was going to get her the S340 elite but she would have preferred a solid panel, I was like we should add the RGB strip for $12 and she laughed at me :) I went with the Taichi board since it has wifi built in.
 
Archaea said:
I don't think that mining stat progress figures in the electric bill.

But this one does and includes a field for you to put in your city's electric charge.
https://www.nicehash.com/?p=calc

With those three cards running I'm making supposedly right now $21.45 per day. No way electricity at 900 watts power draw on my two machines is $21.45 per day. Your fridge and freezer probably draws close to the same power each day?!?! And your house Central AC much much more with it's 30 amp 240 volt breaker. As a loose guesstimate, my electricity bill will be about $75ish more per month at .12 per kwh in Kansas City Mo area. So I have to mine for about 4 days to cover my electricity for the month. That's my early estimate.
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Thanks, I was honestly curious.

I think this deal is great for metro areas that can capitalize on CL sales. Otherwise - I don't see much $ here. You can't really sell the case on eBay with shipping and net much a profit. The keyboard is the same.

When I look at selling the dual 470s, the 1700, mobo, 8gb ram, psu, cooler and ssd upgrade - I get 1308 based on current eBay sales. Back out 170.00 for fees and 180 for shipping and net would be 957.96 - which is less than the system cost. i figured it selling all the components, as they are simlar to selling what my existing system is.

Of course, I just played with the customizer today, so maybe the daily deal just isn't as hot.
 
wadec22 said:
Thanks, I was honestly curious.

I think this deal is great for metro areas that can capitalize on CL sales. Otherwise - I don't see much $ here. You can't really sell the case on eBay with shipping and net much a profit. The keyboard is the same.

When I look at selling the dual 470s, the 1700, mobo, 8gb ram, psu, cooler and ssd upgrade - I get 1308 based on current eBay sales. Back out 170.00 for fees and 180 for shipping and net would be 957.96 - which is less than the system cost. i figured it selling all the components, as they are simlar to selling what my existing system is.

Of course, I just played with the customizer today, so maybe the daily deal just isn't as hot.
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Getting a Thermaltake case is worth it for the free ring fans which can get about 10 bucks each at least. The 500gb m. 2 card is nice for the money. Going with the 750w evga psu is probably smartest if reselling. Yesterday was a free upgrade to 16gb of ram. It's a little more than break even I'd wager, but a nice deal if you flip the cards only and keep the rest of the rig. Works out to like 80% of what the stuff would cost to build.
 
mnewxcv said:
Getting a Thermaltake case is worth it for the free ring fans which can get about 10 bucks each at least. The 500gb m. 2 card is nice for the money. Going with the 750w evga psu is probably smartest if reselling. Yesterday was a free upgrade to 16gb of ram. It's a little more than break even I'd wager, but a nice deal if you flip the cards only and keep the rest of the rig. Works out to like 80% of what the stuff would cost to build.
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Totally agree. If you are keeping all but the cards, great value.
 
this is actually not half bad of an idea i need to wait for the real deal sales next Friday
 
Welp. I screwed up and didn't choose the corsair case I wanted. Called late to cancel. Asked 3 times if I would get the funds back immediately because half the payment was from my paypal balance and the other half was my debit. Need the funds back so I can re-order the PC as quickly as possible is what I told the them! The guy claimed up and down that I would get the entire refund immediately! So I told him to proceed. No instant refunds took place. I called back. Now I'm told that the department that does refunds won't be back in until monday
 
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Kuurus said:
Welp. I screwed up and didn't choose the corsair case I wanted. Called today to cancel. Asked 3 times if I would get the funds back immediately because half the payment was from my paypal balance and the other half was my debit. Need the funds back so I can re-order the PC as quickly as possible is what I told the them! The guy claimed up and down that I would get the entire refund immediately! So I told him to proceed. No instant refunds took place. I called back. Now I'm told that the department that does refunds won't be back in until monday
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I contacted support like four times yesterday. Got 'justin' every time. Seems like that guy gets swamped. Hope you get your funds soon. I'll keep canceling my orders if better deals show up.
 
mnewxcv said:
I contacted support like four times yesterday. Got 'justin' every time. Seems like that guy gets swamped. Hope you get your funds soon. I'll keep canceling my orders if better deals show up.
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It has been cancelled entirely for the past hour or so. Showing invalid instead of received. But I guess they can't release the funds until monday because I'm not seeing the funds in my account
 
To all you are purchasing from a company using off the shelf components with a build date... OFC IN TIME BETTER DEALS WILL COME IF YOU CANT COMMIT TO THE FULFILLMENT OF YOUR PURCHASE DONT HIT THE PURCHASE BUTTON. Fricking microwave generation i swear. (frick im old yes all of you can get off my lawn :p)

Kuurus said:
It has been cancelled entirely for the past hour or so. Showing invalid instead of received. But I guess they can't release the funds until monday because I'm not seeing the funds in my account
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The heck is this instant refunds crap on a weekend from an online store be patient and wait it out. you likely could of called and modified the order over the phone with the case you wanted?
 
maxius said:
To all you are purchasing from a company using off the shelf components with a build date... OFC IN TIME BETTER DEALS WILL COME IF YOU CANT COMMIT TO THE FULFILLMENT OF YOUR PURCHASE DONT HIT THE PURCHASE BUTTON. Fricking microwave generation i swear. (frick im old yes all of you can get off my lawn :p)



The heck is this instant refunds crap on a weekend from an online store be patient and wait it out. you likely could of called and modified the order over the phone with the case you wanted?
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I asked if I could. They said orders can't be changed. I'm also not being impatient. Simply letting it be known that refunds won't be processed during weekends


The order hadn't technically even gone through. If the order was cancelled the cancellation doesn't take as long. When you pay with paypal the funds aren't removed, instead they are held for a short while until authorization is complete. Because I cancelled shortly after ordering I assumed the funds would be released from this limbo and available for me to use once more. But the funds from my debit would remain unavailable for a few days.
 
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Thanks to everyone on this forum. I just signed up... and have an order ready to go, but noted that they're adding sales tax---and that's a whopping 10% here in Seattle. Maybe I'll wait till morning and call them . Doesn't mess up the good deal, it just eats into the profits to be had by selling off the 2 GP{U's and whatever else I don't need or want.
 
I bit. Changed the case and opted for 16gb ram, ended up around 1100 which is still less than I could have built it for (rush processing and 3 day shipping)

Hoping to try some bitcoin mining assuming I have a decent enough hash rate, otherwise it was still a substantial upgrade for me.
 
Kuurus said:
free shipping is gone
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Only on "Select" systems now. Not sure how you know which ones have free shipping - but that's probably be a reason to customize from there if you could find it.
It wasn't available yesterday on an Intel System I built. That one cast me $75 to ship. The first three I ordered were free shipping.

16GB of RAM free upgrade from 8GB is the deal today. Still good prices to be had - but beware the bitcoin and alt-coing markets are taking a plunge over the last week. I'm hoping the RX470 value holds until we get our machines.

My four machines are scheduled to ship between 7-5 and 7-7.
 
"free shipping" was on select models before too, unless it said free shipping on the "deal" icon there is no free shipping by default.
 
I don't know. I built up a few of the same systems with the same base in the past. They had zero shipping to TX. Now it's $75 bucks for the same. Even the one I cancelled can't be purchased again without $75 shipping added on. After the previous order I decided I hated the Thermaltake case, but I had to cancel and reordered to change it. Now it's going to cost $75 more lol... Guess it wasn't meant to be *shrugs*
 
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try other deals and customize. when this first popped up I believe it was for the july 4th II deal which had free shipping. I customized another ryzen deal (think ryzen 7 configurator) and it came out $.60 less even with no free shipping. but then a 1800x daily deal came that undercut them both by over $100 for same configuration with free shipping so.

I think it's really when what secondary deals of the day (ie., free ram upgrade, $50 off ryzen cpu or free ssd upgrade) are on offer and what you are looking for converge that you get the best deal.
 
Hmmm, the free shipping option is still available for me (perhaps because Wa isn't that far from Cali?) And the deal is $60 better due to the free memory upgrade. I'd still have to pay the tax... Four or ebay auctions ended in the last few hours for the 470... that I had marked to watch. one went for 268, the others averaged about 315.... I'll watch for a few more hours before deciding whether to spring for the computer or not.

I've researched the bench marks and interest between the 1700 Ryzen 7 and the 1600x Ryzen 5... the 1700 seems the better value... I dunno which would be easier to sell. Perhaps the $60 cheaper one, as it would bring down the needed price, assuming I advertised the complete PC....in my area, used PC's not that good seem to go for 700-1000, so I think, as long as I threw in a different GPU, maybe my GTX 970, I could sell it for about $1100-1200... plus I'd add a 2 tb HD which I can get for $40-45 elsewhere. and a smaller power supply.
 
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Still no shipping on my order, which is about ready to place. Having it shipped to a relative in Oregon to save the tax. I'm at $1040..... with the 1600X . Read more online comparisons, and don't see the need to pay the 60 extra for the 1700. The deal is $60 better today due to the memory upgrade, too!!


Yes, another shout out to the OP and all who contributed to this thread. And to Kuurus for selling me a windows 7 key and a 10 Pro too boot!
 
Yep. Went there, but preferred to pay Kuurus a whopping $2 more for his. That site also was out of Windows 7 Pro Keys, so he sold me one for $10 buckaroonies.... what a fella!! For my real old computer, which I barely need, and will try to sell, or donate, the W 7 key was all I needed as the OS install I have, the key was no good, and Microsoft was spitting fire at me every time I booted it up....plus, I tried the assistive W 10 upgrade a couple times, but the download just sat there at 0% doing nuttin.... and I didn't wanna bother to start over with a fresh install. $10 bucks well spent. Thanks again, Will.
 
By the way, to all who are springing for this deal, Newegg has a 750 watt Thermaltake PSU 80+ Gold for $79, but with a $30 rebate (in the form of a cash card). The deal expires Thursday. The PSU is only semi-modular, which might be OK... My last two fully mod ones are nice as the unneeded cables aren't in the case.

I did check on ebay, and the 1000 watt PSU should be able to be sold for more than $50.... how much would depend on the brand name and modular status, I reckon.

https://promotions.newegg.com/neemail/latest/index-landing.aspx
 
It's probably not going to be modular. But because free shipping is off the table for the same builds I'm waiting. Hoping they pop that $50 dollars off on Ryzen based systems up again! then I'm going to purchase. Freaking kicking myself all day over cancelling the last order to change to the Corsair case! But how was I to know that they where going to restructure their free shipping offer : (
 
Kuurus said:
It's probably not going to be modular. But because free shipping is off the table for the same builds I'm waiting. Hoping they pop that $50 dollars off on Ryzen based systems up again! then I'm going to purchase. Freaking kicking myself all day over cancelling the last order to change to the Corsair case! But how was I to know that they where going to restructure their free shipping offer : (
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The Modular PSUs that are reasonably priced through CyberPower are the Thortech Thunderbolt Series. (gold efficiency)


Keep in mind if you get a case with a "basement" you won't even see the PSU cables - so it's a moot point.

And if you won't see the PSU cables there is some truth to the fact one might prefer it wasn't modular because the press fit contact points on the modular cables are a weak point, compared to the solder points on a standard, non modular PSU. (even though risk of failure on the modular is fairly low - it would be lower still on the non-modular)
 
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I am not saying one is better or worse then the other. But he was speculating the resell value. I was just saying it was most likely not going to be modular. This information would help him better narrow down it's potential resell value
 
rbtree said:
By the way, to all who are springing for this deal, Newegg has a 750 watt Thermaltake PSU 80+ Gold for $79, but with a $30 rebate (in the form of a cash card). The deal expires Thursday. The PSU is only semi-modular, which might be OK... My last two fully mod ones are nice as the unneeded cables aren't in the case.

I did check on ebay, and the 1000 watt PSU should be able to be sold for more than $50.... how much would depend on the brand name and modular status, I reckon.

https://promotions.newegg.com/neemail/latest/index-landing.aspx
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check for 1000w 80+ GOLD power supply...they are north of $100 on ebay. be careful with ones described as Gold Fan grill as that is not in reference to the 80+ gold certification but the color of the fan grill.
 
Order placed. Plus. I get 1.5% cash back on my CC, and no interest for at least another 6-8 months! It was $988 after the 5% off

Kuurus, Call em and whine about the shipping. Let em know a new online bud got the freebie today!



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