DAN HSLP-48: A powerful sub 50mm heatsink

Ca11idus said:
Welp, this would explain why Noctua didn't want to back the HSLP-48. They had plans of their own. Still too tall at 70mm...


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This one from last year's Computex 2016, check here:
http://noctua.at/en/noctua-at-computex-2016
 
Ca11idus said:
Welp, this would explain why Noctua didn't want to back the HSLP-48. They had plans of their own. Still too tall at 70mm...


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Ma, at first I was all like "70mm minus 15mm for the fan, that would be 55m if the fan was mounted below the fins...!"

And then I looked a little closer at the specs card, "Only 70mm total height with the fan installed below the fins."

Bummer...

But what gets me, they tout this as "Based on the award-winning NH-L12", but the NH-L12 is actually 4mm shorter than this when used with bottom fan only...?!?
 
Vlad502 said:
So around 5°C behind AIO cooler, because HSLP-48 supposed to be better than Nexus 7000 R2 with 3-5°C, but will see.
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That's 15 minutes, that should be enough for he air coolers to heat up, but will it heat up the radiator and fluid as well or does the AIO take longer to reach equilibrium?
 
CknSalad said:
Gigabyte finally revealed their mini-itx AM4 board: GA-AB350N
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wooh thanks, I missed that one! sadly there is no information about the on-board sound chip yet (at least on the linked page, gotta google that later), i guess :/ I really want to keep using the Soundblaster Scout mode for games :D
 
Rysen said:
This is almost twice the size of the HSLP48. This is in no way targets any case smaller than 12L.
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True. I was thinking more in the lines that noctua might not want to have multiple heatsinks in the sub 40-50mm market. The fact of the matter is that there aren't enough cases/consumers to start building niche heatsinks. I would love it if it wasn't a niche but we are still growing. Dondan is already breaking the mold and taking us outside of the nich market but we aren't in a position yet to have multiple companies building heatsinks specific to the dan a4 or the other sffpc case that can take 50mm heatsinks. I really want the Lian Li to work so that towards the 3rd batch new people can buy the case and heatsink as a bundle and maybe save some $.
 
Are there any real tangible benefits to getting the AsRock X370 mini-itx AM4 over the B350 version?
 
CknSalad said:
Are there any real tangible benefits to getting the AsRock X370 mini-itx AM4 over the B350 version?
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Asrock B version Vs X version are really now difference at all.

Sli and Crossfire support not any you can use on Mitx.

Same specification on the boards otherwise
 
Jonas Mellkvist said:
Asrock B version Vs X version are really now difference at all.

Sli and Crossfire support not any you can use on Mitx.

Same specification on the boards otherwise
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The main interesting thing is if the B350 can handle 3600 mhz ram as well as the overclocking capabilities. It almost feels like other than possible bifurcation on the X version, the higher price of the X version is just marketing to get the less informed to pay more money.
 
CknSalad said:
The main interesting thing is if the B350 can handle 3600 mhz ram as well as the overclocking capabilities. It almost feels like other than possible bifurcation on the X version, the higher price of the X version is just marketing to get the less informed to pay more money.
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X370 supports SLI, Crossfire and also has more USB, sata and stuff then the B350
 
CknSalad said:
Are there any real tangible benefits to getting the AsRock X370 mini-itx AM4 over the B350 version?
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Jonas Mellkvist said:
Asrock B version Vs X version are really now difference at all.

Sli and Crossfire support not any you can use on Mitx.

Same specification on the boards otherwise
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CknSalad said:
The main interesting thing is if the B350 can handle 3600 mhz ram as well as the overclocking capabilities. It almost feels like other than possible bifurcation on the X version, the higher price of the X version is just marketing to get the less informed to pay more money.
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Woxys said:
X370 supports SLI, Crossfire and also has more USB, sata and stuff then the B350
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Both versions of the ASRock AM4 ITX motherboard have the same I/O...

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From this article:

https://smallformfactor.net/news/asrock-x370-b350-am4-mini-itx-motherboards-pictured
 
The biggest difference i can see is the X350 features an M.2 slot, while the B350 does not according to the description, but i can see the mounting screw in the same position
 
Aegelward said:
The biggest difference i can see is the X350 features an M.2 slot, while the B350 does not according to the description, but i can see the mounting screw in the same position
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Both have 1 M2 nvme on the backside of the Motherboards.

Only difference are Pcie splitter with birfurcation you can use duble gpu
 
Aegelward said:
The biggest difference i can see is the X350 features an M.2 slot, while the B350 does not according to the description, but i can see the mounting screw in the same position
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Fourth line from the bottom:

- 4 SATA3, 1 Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4)
 
Until there are reviews for both of the boards, seems like the B350 is the better buy.
 
CknSalad said:
Until there are reviews for both of the boards, seems like the B350 is the better buy.
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It's top of my build list...!

ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac MB / AMD Ryzen R7 1700 CPU
Dan HSLP-48 Cu heatsink with Noctua NF-A12x15 fan
16GB Innodisk VLP DDR4 RAM / 1TB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / RX Vega Nano GPU
Noctua NF-A14x15 chassis fan / Corsair SF600 SFX PSU

Hoping the HSLP-48 Cu version tests out well, and Innodisk will offer up some Ryzen-friendly VLP DDR4 RAM; slap a NF-A12x15 under the HSLP-48 and mount it up with some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM...!
 
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Boil said:
It's top of my build list...!

ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac MB / AMD Ryzen R7 1700 CPU
Dan HSLP-48 Cu heatsink with Noctua NF-A12x15 fan
16GB Innodisk VLP DDR4 RAM / 1TB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / RX Vega Nano GPU
Noctua NF-A14x15 chassis fan / Corsair SF600 SFX PSU

Hoping the HSLP-48 Cu version tests out well, and Innodisk will offer up some Ryzen-friendly VLP DDR4 RAM; slap a NF-A12x15 under the HSLP-48 and mount it up with some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut TIM...!
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The big thing to wait is also the CryOrig C7 copper version. Computex definitely was amazing for the SFF front. Even Flex-ATX psus and possibly a new form factor in micro-STX (2.5-4L) are on the possible rise.
 
CknSalad said:
The big thing to wait is also the CryOrig C7 copper version. Computex definitely was amazing for the SFF front. Even Flex-ATX psus and possibly a new form factor in micro-STX (2.5-4L) are on the possible rise.
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That Silverstone RVZ04 chassis (for the aforementioned micro-STX platform) is pretty sweet looking...

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So I spoke with Innodisk at Computex and might be setting up a bulk order for their VLP DIMMs depending on the numbers they require as well as interest from this community as well as others. Right now the goal would be to have the DIMMs made with Samsung B-dies to ensure maximum compatibility with Ryzen. Right now I am leaning towards ordering 8GB DIMMs at either 2400 or 2667 MHz on a custom all-black PCB. Anyone who is interested can either PM me here or alternatively send an email to [email protected]. What I would like to know from people is what speed of RAM they are most interested in (2133, 2400 or 2666), what the minimum acceptable speed would be, who would be interested in 16GB modules if possible and if the lack of 16GB modules would kill your interest in the project. Also the RAM would be non-ECC as the bulk of users likely won't want this feature anyhow.
 
kingtron said:
innodisk is cheaper in price, also not sure if Ryzen motherboards can accept ECC
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Official AMD statement:

"ECC works as long as the motherboard supports it, but it is not part of the official validation testsuite." (AMD reddit AMA)

That was back in March, assume it hasn't changed since.
 
Totally as an aside- I think the spec sheet may be wrong about USB connections. Looks to me like 2xUSB 2.0 on the left, 2x3.0 under the ethernet, and 1x3.1 type A and 1x3.1 type C in the middle.
 
Unbuffered ecc can work in none ecc mode if board and cpu doesn't support ecc.

But for those who need 16gb in total crucial is a bad option.
 
KMPKT said:
So I spoke with Innodisk at Computex and might be setting up a bulk order for their VLP DIMMs depending on the numbers they require as well as interest from this community as well as others. Right now the goal would be to have the DIMMs made with Samsung B-dies to ensure maximum compatibility with Ryzen. Right now I am leaning towards ordering 8GB DIMMs at either 2400 or 2667 MHz on a custom all-black PCB. Anyone who is interested can either PM me here or alternatively send an email to [email protected]. What I would like to know from people is what speed of RAM they are most interested in (2133, 2400 or 2666), what the minimum acceptable speed would be, who would be interested in 16GB modules if possible and if the lack of 16GB modules would kill your interest in the project. Also the RAM would be non-ECC as the bulk of users likely won't want this feature anyhow.
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For me its 2 sticks 8 GB each in VLP, 2400mhz or 2666 mhz make no difference for me.

Can i use this on my board ?? Asrock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac
 
Jonas Mellkvist said:
Can i use this on my board ?? Asrock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac
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Yes you can, Also you may need to replace the mosfets heat-sink for the HSLP-48 with 120x15mm fan
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For the northbridge chipset, you can cut the heat-pipe connected to the MOSFETS heat-sink and use it on the northbridge chip.
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KMPKT said:
So I spoke with Innodisk at Computex and might be setting up a bulk order for their VLP DIMMs depending on the numbers they require as well as interest from this community as well as others. Right now the goal would be to have the DIMMs made with Samsung B-dies to ensure maximum compatibility with Ryzen. Right now I am leaning towards ordering 8GB DIMMs at either 2400 or 2667 MHz on a custom all-black PCB. Anyone who is interested can either PM me here or alternatively send an email to [email protected]. What I would like to know from people is what speed of RAM they are most interested in (2133, 2400 or 2666), what the minimum acceptable speed would be, who would be interested in 16GB modules if possible and if the lack of 16GB modules would kill your interest in the project. Also the RAM would be non-ECC as the bulk of users likely won't want this feature anyhow.
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8GB 2400 MHz -- What are we thinking the cost of this will be?
 
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Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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dondan said:
Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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Shut up and take my money!

Also, really want to know how it performs with the 120mm fan.
 
dondan said:
Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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Can you write the reference temperature as well? How is the Asetec AIO performing so we know what are the temps for the cooler in question?
Also how long are you running prime for each test?
 
SaperPL said:
Can you write the reference temperature as well? How is the Asetec AIO performing so we know what are the temps for the cooler in question?
Also how long are you running prime for each test?
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And what version of Prime95 too!
 
dondan said:
Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.
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Vlad502 said:
https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a...in-the-world.1799326/page-174#post-1042697345

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https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a...in-the-world.1799326/page-277#post-1042983296

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Nexus 7000 Low R2 with 3GHz 5820K : 60.6°C
Asetek 545LC AIO 92mm with 3GHz 5820K : 53.8°C
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So it is 10°C better than Nexus Low-7000 R2 like Cryorig claiming Copper version C7 is 10°C better than Aluminium version:
Compared to the aluminium variant, the all-copper cooler is 10 degrees cooler in testing performed thus far. CRYORIG was only expecting a 1-2 degree improvement, so understandably, they will return to testing to confirm that this is indeed correct!
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https://smallformfactor.net/news/cryorig-at-computex-2017

How much is weight? What about CoolJag sample?
The aim is a heatsink that keeps the temperatures up to 15°C lower than existing competitors like the C7 or L9i
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Mission accomplished?!
 
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dondan said:
Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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I can't wait.
 
dondan said:
Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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What Cpu in the testing ??

7700K + Ryzen 7 1700 and maybe also X versions ??
 
dondan said:
Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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Is the actual contact surface of the cold plate also copper? I can't tell. I'm definitely intrigued. Hopefully there's no unnecessary nickel or aluminum anywhere. Just pure copper. It looks beautiful. Also it would be great to see it tested with the new Noctua NF-A12x15. Can't wait to see more results.
 
dondan said:
Sorry guys I must leave this here very quick.

Today I got the Lian Li samples and currently my system is running Prime95 with a crazy room temp of 25°C.

The copper edition with the thermalright 100mm fan perform nearly on the same level as the Asetek AIO with a room temp of 21°C. So the HSLP-48 is 3°C better as the AIO and 13°C better as the Dynatron T318.

Now It will try 4Ghz XD

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Holy keeee-rap. That's incredible. I can't wait for this to be in my hands. :)
 
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