ASUS teasing TRipper @ 5ghz????

ShinTEL you would be the first to rain on any hope of AMD .....just thunderstorm right on in wont you.
 
Shintai said:
Hope? Why stop at 5Ghz then. Just OC your 1700X to 6Ghz. Its an easier task. Or are you not hopeful enough?
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Sigh.... there you go again flapping your gums out of your rear end.

New silicon, a little more improved process yada yada whatever.... im just reporting whats on the interweb either enjoy it or move on.
 
tangoseal said:
ShinTEL you would be the first to rain on any hope of AMD .....just thunderstorm right on in wont you.
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He is correctly pointing out clickbait. It's an empty mobo with a display programed to show 5Ghz, how is that teasing the CPU at 5Ghz when there isn't even a CPU there? No CPU, no cooler, no RAM, yep, confirmed here people! They hit 5Ghz!!
 
BlueFireIce said:
He is correctly pointing out clickbait. It's an empty mobo with a display programed to show 5Ghz, how is that teasing the CPU at 5Ghz when there isn't even a CPU there? No CPU, no cooler, no RAM, yep, confirmed here people! They hit 5Ghz!!
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Its not that he is or isnt right about clickbait and he is .... it is Shintai's personality and my personality clashing and an ongoing discussion we have between us. Don't worry.
 
tangoseal said:
im just reporting whats on the interweb either enjoy it or move on.
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quote myself to remind...

Judge all you want ... im just posting this stuff FYI, take it or leave it, click the bait or don't, were a tech forum and this is something tech and news whether or not it is fake. Discuss away. Dont burn the messenger.

n.
 
What the hell is that 9th DIMM slot all about? Never heard of a DIMM.2 slot. It for those SSDs that work over the memory bus? ------------------------------------------------------------------V (roughly about here)
ASUS-ROG-X399-Zenith-Extreme-Motherboard-Full.png


EDIT: Nevermind, apparently it's just an ASUS hoopajew. Guess they've used it before. It takes a riser card with two M.2 32GB/s slots, to "decongest" the board, when no room is available for them. Which, granted, there isn't any except for the back-side of the board heh

https://www.techpowerup.com/img/17-01-10/04d525d7c31a.jpg
 
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Formula.350 said:
What the hell is that 9th DIMM slot all about? Never heard of a DIMM.2 slot. It for those SSDs that work over the memory bus? ------------------------------------------------------------------V (roughly about here)
ASUS-ROG-X399-Zenith-Extreme-Motherboard-Full.png


EDIT: Nevermind, apparently it's just an ASUS hoopajew. Guess they've used it before. It takes a riser card with two M.2 32GB/s slots, to "decongest" the board, when no room is available for them. Which, granted, there isn't any except for the back-side of the board heh

https://www.techpowerup.com/img/17-01-10/04d525d7c31a.jpg
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Now that is a SOCKET.
 
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Is it just me, or does the socket look like it's a combination of 2 sockets?

Also, almost definitely requires it's own dedicated line of coolers.
 
Is it just me, or does the socket look like it's a combination of 2 sockets?
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Intel will have a similar looking 4000+ pin socket for their server line. Although they are not using it for the HEDT platform.
 
absolutley cant wait to see how this platform performs, if its what im hoping for, AMD TAKE MY MONEY NOW!
 
Good thing about a large surface area is it should be able to transfer heat really well. However I have my severe doubts about it hitting 5 ghz.
 
newls1 said:
absolutley cant wait to see how this platform performs, if its what im hoping for, AMD TAKE MY MONEY NOW!
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I'm just excited to see AMD enter this new segment. While I'm bummed I hadn't known about this earlier, at the same time, I'm not because I wouldn't have been able to afford it and likely would've bought it anyways LOL
Nevertheless, and this is just pure speculation on my part, but I can't help but feel that it lit a fire under Intel's ass and had a very real influence on their Computex roadmap...
I question whether or not they planned to release the 12, 14, 16, 18C products in that stack, but then came the leaks of AMD releasing a 16C/32T of their own, and they had to hurry and determine the various things these systems would need to meet in order to be capable of handling these parts. As well as talking to the bean counters to work out a price bracket for them. Only reason I feel this is the case is the absolute lack of any information on these parts:
https://www.hardocp.com/image/MTQ5NjE0NDMwMzhka21lcWYwY2FfMV8xX2wuZ2lm
Now, yes, I surely won't deny that keeping some info held back is just how this game works, and especially since (as far as I understand it) Intel had their press event before AMD, so they may not have wanted to reveal too much. AMD on the other hand, may have had a couple slides ready with more or less info depending on what Intel released. To ME it just feels like Intel was ready to drop the 6C/12T through 10C/20T chips onto the market, and the 12 to 18 core models were a comparatively "last minute" scramble. (By 'last minute' I of course mean within the last month, maybe 2)

Also, in typical Intel fashion... an epic amount of price gouging going on. However, I'll cut them some slack, as they are at least offering a the 6/12 and 8/16 chip for a way more affordable cost! Again, thank you AMD, as even if we DID see up to 18C had this HEDT Threadripper never been announced, I'm sure the 6 and 8 core models would've been way more expensive. :)

Gideon said:
Good thing about a large surface area is it should be able to transfer heat really well. However I have my severe doubts about it hitting 5 ghz.
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I believe these will be that new stepping of Ryzen core, so will either possibly clock a tiny bit higher, or if not then they'll at least had more performance clock-per-clock than the Ryzens we've got. In the end, it's all the better for AMD since it'll make this system look even better than it would've!
 
Need to move to 14nm+ soon. 14LPP has it's purpose because the yields were so good. Time to refine the process. I bet we see some newer stepping parts out soon that clock higher. Can't wait to see what Epyc performs like. Soon
 
Formula.350 said:
I'm just excited to see AMD enter this new segment. While I'm bummed I hadn't known about this earlier, at the same time, I'm not because I wouldn't have been able to afford it and likely would've bought it anyways LOL
Nevertheless, and this is just pure speculation on my part, but I can't help but feel that it lit a fire under Intel's ass and had a very real influence on their Computex roadmap...
I question whether or not they planned to release the 12, 14, 16, 18C products in that stack, but then came the leaks of AMD releasing a 16C/32T of their own, and they had to hurry and determine the various things these systems would need to meet in order to be capable of handling these parts. As well as talking to the bean counters to work out a price bracket for them. Only reason I feel this is the case is the absolute lack of any information on these parts:
https://www.hardocp.com/image/MTQ5NjE0NDMwMzhka21lcWYwY2FfMV8xX2wuZ2lm
Now, yes, I surely won't deny that keeping some info held back is just how this game works, and especially since (as far as I understand it) Intel had their press event before AMD, so they may not have wanted to reveal too much. AMD on the other hand, may have had a couple slides ready with more or less info depending on what Intel released. To ME it just feels like Intel was ready to drop the 6C/12T through 10C/20T chips onto the market, and the 12 to 18 core models were a comparatively "last minute" scramble. (By 'last minute' I of course mean within the last month, maybe 2)

Also, in typical Intel fashion... an epic amount of price gouging going on. However, I'll cut them some slack, as they are at least offering a the 6/12 and 8/16 chip for a way more affordable cost! Again, thank you AMD, as even if we DID see up to 18C had this HEDT Threadripper never been announced, I'm sure the 6 and 8 core models would've been way more expensive. :)


I believe these will be that new stepping of Ryzen core, so will either possibly clock a tiny bit higher, or if not then they'll at least had more performance clock-per-clock than the Ryzens we've got. In the end, it's all the better for AMD since it'll make this system look even better than it would've!
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From what I heard it's only about a 3% bump in IPC, so a minor tweak, also why I am not expecting them to clock 1 ghz more as well. I think they may be able to hit the same speed as the 8 cores and that by itself is no small feat.
 
Formula.350 said:
I'm just excited to see AMD enter this new segment. While I'm bummed I hadn't known about this earlier, at the same time, I'm not because I wouldn't have been able to afford it and likely would've bought it anyways LOL
Nevertheless, and this is just pure speculation on my part, but I can't help but feel that it lit a fire under Intel's ass and had a very real influence on their Computex roadmap...
I question whether or not they planned to release the 12, 14, 16, 18C products in that stack, but then came the leaks of AMD releasing a 16C/32T of their own, and they had to hurry and determine the various things these systems would need to meet in order to be capable of handling these parts. As well as talking to the bean counters to work out a price bracket for them. Only reason I feel this is the case is the absolute lack of any information on these parts:
https://www.hardocp.com/image/MTQ5NjE0NDMwMzhka21lcWYwY2FfMV8xX2wuZ2lm
Now, yes, I surely won't deny that keeping some info held back is just how this game works, and especially since (as far as I understand it) Intel had their press event before AMD, so they may not have wanted to reveal too much. AMD on the other hand, may have had a couple slides ready with more or less info depending on what Intel released. To ME it just feels like Intel was ready to drop the 6C/12T through 10C/20T chips onto the market, and the 12 to 18 core models were a comparatively "last minute" scramble. (By 'last minute' I of course mean within the last month, maybe 2)

Also, in typical Intel fashion... an epic amount of price gouging going on. However, I'll cut them some slack, as they are at least offering a the 6/12 and 8/16 chip for a way more affordable cost! Again, thank you AMD, as even if we DID see up to 18C had this HEDT Threadripper never been announced, I'm sure the 6 and 8 core models would've been way more expensive. :)


I believe these will be that new stepping of Ryzen core, so will either possibly clock a tiny bit higher, or if not then they'll at least had more performance clock-per-clock than the Ryzens we've got. In the end, it's all the better for AMD since it'll make this system look even better than it would've!
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What I found odd was the HUGE difference in price for Intels 8 core to 10core. Really $400 more dollars for 2 cores? Seems quite Knee-jerk. Positive for the Intel guys is they can finally get some core counts without Home-equity loans. The positive for AMD is the PCI-e lane advantage and compared to most of Intels HEDT, a very large advantage.
 
gigaxtreme1 said:
Need to move to 14nm+ soon. 14LPP has it's purpose because the yields were so good. Time to refine the process. I bet we see some newer stepping parts out soon that clock higher. Can't wait to see what Epyc performs like. Soon
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We are inching closer to the physics limit of transistors.... at around 5 nm you are approaching the size and limit of being able to effectively move electrons between valance orbitals of Si atoms. Spacing for crystallized Silicon is around 0.2nm in width and each atom is roughly 0.5nm in width. Then there is the etching and laying of Cu and Au and other materials for the actual transistors, furthering the gap and adding to the resistance of it all.

In other words we are approaching the limits of transistor size based solely on the laws of physics and the actual size of molecular matter. Hence the need to really start focusing in delivering quantum computers to the consumer. We should be, hell, should have already ditched silicon.

Not to go off on a tangent but the human mind has been theorized to operate on Quantum Mechanics. I do not think AI will progress past infancy as long as it is stuck in a silicon chip.

For those that are just like... umm... no Si is still the only way and Quantum is not...

This guy makes it simple.
 
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For those asking about the extra DIMM slot labeled.... DIMM.2

Here ya go ...

Its a riser slot for adding M.2 NVME Sheeite!

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Finally, a reason to have invested in a dual 4x120mm plus one 3x120mm radiator setup for watercooling. That CPU is MASSIVE. Pentium Pro, suck it. lol
 
DogChainX said:
Finally, a reason to have invested in a dual 4x120mm plus one 3x120mm radiator setup for watercooling. That CPU is MASSIVE. Pentium Pro, suck it. lol
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What I love reading are the people complaining about the TDP of the new AMD and Intel chips as being to much, I just want to say hand over your fucking [H] card to them. Who cares what it is, give us more cores and higher clocks at all costs, these computers should cut down rain forests, suck rivers dry, darken the sky with coal dust and drill for oil as hard as your mom was drilled last night.
 
BlueFireIce said:
What I love reading are the people complaining about the TDP of the new AMD and Intel chips as being to much, I just want to say hand over your fucking [H] card to them. Who cares what it is, give us more cores and higher clocks at all costs, these computers should cut down rain forests, suck rivers dry, darken the sky with coal dust and drill for oil as hard as your mom was drilled last night.
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Hell Fuk'n yeah!

I have over 1KW of cooling power.... 4x120 x 4 radiators in my Caselabs TH10 Magnum case. I am R E A D Y for a whimpy ass 150 watt TDP fuck it.... I will make that SOB pull 500 watts with an overclock.

And I am going to Crossfire dual VEGAs and waterblock the shit out of those too. And I am going to waterblock the X399 board.

I can't wait to get this new monster CPU. I might use my 1700X as an HTPC lmao

I don't care if it's $1000.... I can only envision my Video editing taking a fraction of time so I can go do other things.

And I love protein folding since I am a biologist by degree and still study. Oh and an EX IT pro. so I will be running muiltiple 24/7 VMs

Good thing I have this brand new Corsair AX1200 that was a warranty replace I just installed for my Zen.
 
tangoseal said:
Hell Fuk'n yeah!

I have over 1KW of cooling power.... 4x120 x 4 radiators in my Caselabs TH10 Magnum case. I am R E A D Y for a whimpy ass 150 watt TDP fuck it.... I will make that SOB pull 500 watts with an overclock.

And I am going to Crossfire dual VEGAs and waterblock the shit out of those too. And I am going to waterblock the X399 board.

I can't wait to get this new monster CPU. I might use my 1700X as an HTPC lmao

I don't care if it's $1000.... I can only envision my Video editing taking a fraction of time so I can go do other things.

And I love protein folding since I am a biologist by degree and still study. Oh and an EX IT pro. so I will be running muiltiple 24/7 VMs

Good thing I have this brand new Corsair AX1200 that was a warranty replace I just installed for my Zen.
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That's basically me. Caselabs case, lots of radiators, built to cool an x58 with SLI hot cards. Now, Ryzen 1700, 32GB of ram and an air-cooled 1080 until Vega gets here.
 
Formula.350 said:
Nevertheless, and this is just pure speculation on my part, but I can't help but feel that it lit a fire under Intel's ass and had a very real influence on their Computex roadmap...
I question whether or not they planned to release the 12, 14, 16, 18C products in that stack, but then came the leaks of AMD releasing a 16C/32T of their own, and they had to hurry and determine the various things these systems would need to meet in order to be capable of handling these parts. As well as talking to the bean counters to work out a price bracket for them. Only reason I feel this is the case is the absolute lack of any information on these parts:
https://www.hardocp.com/image/MTQ5NjE0NDMwMzhka21lcWYwY2FfMV8xX2wuZ2lm
Now, yes, I surely won't deny that keeping some info held back is just how this game works, and especially since (as far as I understand it) Intel had their press event before AMD, so they may not have wanted to reveal too much. AMD on the other hand, may have had a couple slides ready with more or less info depending on what Intel released. To ME it just feels like Intel was ready to drop the 6C/12T through 10C/20T chips onto the market, and the 12 to 18 core models were a comparatively "last minute" scramble. (By 'last minute' I of course mean within the last month, maybe 2)
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https://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/0...y_intel_core_i9_limited_to_43ghz_on_lcs_rumor
" Motherboard manufacturers have yet to see the 12, 14, 16 or 18 core parts according to the Guru3D article. "​
*chortle* I mean, it's too early to say for certain yet, but NAILED IT! :D
 
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lol, :ROFLMAO:. Yes nice seeing Intel kicked a little. Time for them to really get in gear. Hopefully AMD can deliver the products and they perform well.
 
noko said:
lol, :ROFLMAO:. Yes nice seeing Intel kicked a little. Time for them to really get in gear. Hopefully AMD can deliver the products and they perform well.
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I highly doubt we'll see overclocks higher than what we have today with Ryzen 7. But even then, I'm running a 14-core at 2.5GHz, so upgrading to a 4GHz 14 or 16 core with similar IPC? a win win scenario for me. A lose-lose scenario for my wallet....
 
KazeoHin said:
I highly doubt we'll see overclocks higher than what we have today with Ryzen 7. But even then, I'm running a 14-core at 2.5GHz, so upgrading to a 4GHz 14 or 16 core with similar IPC? a win win scenario for me. A lose-lose scenario for my wallet....
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I am suspecting they will OC the same since they are up to 8 core dies combined via infinity fabric. Plus each die will dissipate as much heat as a separate 8 core Ryzen. So if you have 2 8 core dies each consuming 125w - 250w+ of heat :LOL:. I am not sure how many will be doing that with TRipper. Are they unlocked?
 
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