Microsoft Reportedly Working on New Windows Mobile Reboot

ManofGod said:
They did get seamless integration in Windows 10. That said, they have now killed Windows 10 Mobile so.......... :( Well, lets see, I predict 7 pages of nothing for this thread.
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And they proceeded to force it down everyone's throat; which is why nobody trusts them or wants their products anymore.
 
BryanSTG said:
And they proceeded to force it down everyone's throat; which is why nobody trusts them or wants their products anymore.
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Looks at thread title, looks a prediction, looks at quoted post, yep, here we go.....:D
 
A little bit to late MS I had done kick my Windows phone out the door when my sister law hand my her old iPhone 6 Plus as she just got a new iPhone 7 Plus
 
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Quartz-1 said:
Microsoft gave up just when they were on the point of succeeding. I'm still a fan of Windows Mobile, so I'll be looking forward to this.
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I have been looking for a new phone and I'd be willing to give this a go. I enjoyed the Lumia 640 well enough.
 
Tiberian said:
If they made awesome phones they gave away for free, if they made apps that were better than anything the world had ever seen before and gave those away for free, if they paid developers $10,000 cash per app - yes, even fart and fake beer apps included, if they literally paid the end users to actually use the free phones with the free apps on an hourly basis like $10 an hour Microsoft would still be absolutely nothing but EPIC FUCKING FAIL in the mobile space and that's never ever going to change now.

As someone that was using "PDAs" long ago before someone even put Personal and Digital and Assistant into that acronym I've seen pretty much everything that's come along since those days, and believe it or not I still have nothing but fond memories of the time when it was Palm vs PocketPC and I just didn't find Palm products to be all that awesome. The "PocketPC" which then became Windows Mobile did absolutely everything I required in a device, and I still have a Dell Axim X51v, what I consider to be the greatest "PocketPC" type device ever, around here someplace in good working condition. Damned thing was a work of art (literally, it won some design awards, no joke) and I actually miss using it in some respects.

But Microsoft, my god, will you people please just toss in the towel. You lost, it's over, seriously.

Now, if you'd take my advice you'd have a winner guaranteed:

1) Buy this, lock stock and barrel, the entire design portfolio top to bottom and everything in between, from Canonical (and of course obviously the Ubuntu logo would be removed, duh):



2) Make it from today's best mobile hardware (Snapdragon 835 if possible, 4GB of RAM is more than enough, 1920x1080 display because QHD is nothing but a waste of battery efficiency no matter what anybody tells you, 11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5, lots of LTE bands and support, perhaps CDMA as well for those on Sprint/Verizon networks, good audio DAC in it with a decent speaker in it (front facing would be great, stereo speakers just ain't all that really), 3500+ mAh battery, Quick Charge 3.0+, USB-C, leave in the damned headphone jack or else, and you can figure the rest of it out from here

3) Create a kick ass slick version of Android on it with no bloatware, make it fast and efficient, and update it every freakin' month like clockwork the same way Google does when they push out the monthly security patches and do it for at least 2 full years guaranteed from the day the device hits the market, preferably 3

4) Bill it as the Surface Phone people have been expecting you to make for years now - I mean really, go back and look at the original Surface Tablet, then look at what Canonical created with this failed Ubuntu Edge project device, they're practically twins for fuck's sake

5) Sell it for a good price, like $500-600 with 128GB of onboard storage AND a microSD card slot - a removable battery would be fantastic but I can actually forgive it in favor of the microSD card slot, that I will not abide anymore and I will not buy devices that don't have one

Do those 5 things and I guarantee you can make a dent in the smartphone market, ignore those 5 things at your peril 'cause nothing else you do at this point is going to matter in terms of "Windows Mobile" - it's a dead platform for you but you're just not seeming to realize it.

Oh, and if you do these 5 steps, I'll expect two of these Surface Phones delivered to me (one for me, one for the wife, of course) as compensation for turning your entire mobile division around with just 5 easy steps, thanks. ;)
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If every person on the planet said just this to them and told them exactly what they wanted, and it was exactly the same, they'd still release something that is in alpha form, the complete opposite, and wait, is that "etch-a-sketch" scratched out on the top of this thing? FFS Microsoft.

I stuck with windows 8, 8.1 and 10 phones. It still felt like it was in beta the whole time. I'm not buying one of their phones ever again.
 
ManofGod said:
They did get seamless integration in Windows 10. That said, they have now killed Windows 10 Mobile so.......... :( Well, lets see, I predict 7 pages of nothing for this thread.
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Yes forcing a touch interface on non touch devices is seamless integration.
 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Just as the company I work for has finished ordering tens of thousands of iPhones to replace all windows phones used by those that need a workphone ready for a mass recall

I would take a windows phone over an iPhone simply because it has great exchange integration BUT Microsoft screed up again.... I doubt big corporations would take the chance again.
 
Microsoft UI is beautiful and much more user friendly than iPhone and Android. I still use Lumia 950 but I just ordered Android phones for the whole family and myself because of apps :)
 
almalino said:
Microsoft UI is beautiful and much more user friendly than iPhone and Android. I still use Lumia 950 but I just ordered Android phones for the whole family and myself because of apps :)
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no.,
Let's arbitrarily order settings... Does "workplace" appear at the bottom, top or middle .

Icongraphs are known to be be quicker to interpret yet windowsill goes full list text in settings....

Let's use the same text symbol for ... New app, missed call, update, email
 
Every single time I get an opportunity to shit on microsoft phone I will. I loved lumia 950 as a phone, it had everythining I needed from a phone – microsd for my portable stuff storage, replacable battery, good screen and adequite camera. But its operating system was atrocious and I dumped this phone despite loving its hardware. The bad things about windows on a phone – 1. The default contacts app (?) is atricious – it is hard to navigate and gives very little info on your previous calls (I do need to know whether I actually answered a call. not just that it just "happened"). 2. I can not, for whatever reason bring my favourite contacts to the main screen for fast dial. 3. Very very very very rarely are you able to control what live tile actually shows, the live tiles I like but not being able to configure what it will show makes it less usefull than one might expect. 3. Pretty much the only viable browser is internet explorer. 4. No apps. None that are usefull anyway. I have huge anime collection and I tried several players on app store but pretty much none were able to play a video with subtitles (in .mkv container) and none were able to play 10-bit h264 files. At that point, after endless frustration I said f Microsoft and bought android phone which in my opinion is worse as far as hardware aspect is concerned (sony Z3) but at least I am able to do things with it... Even my wife found it lacking in software aspect (please do try its facebook app).
 
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Quartz-1 said:
You guys are getting this wrong. MS needs the mobile market. MS needs it because it will take over from much of the desktop market. One day, we will be able to put our phones into a dock and use them as desktops. Microsoft doesn't want to lose that market to Android or Apple. So it really does need to try again in the mobile market.
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With Moore's law stalled out phones don't really have anywhere to go performance wise, there's only so much power you can cram into a small, fanless device. A laptop or desktop will be necessary for the foreseeable future. Nobody wants to use their personal phone as their work computer, either.

What Microsoft needs to fix immediately is their desktop OS, they aren't going to be able to monetize the desktop with apps and they're going to lose market share if a serious competitor to Windows 10 like a Chrome Pro OS shows up. Why not give users what they want? It's time to flush the Windows 8/10 disaster. Windows 7 v2 with updated hardware support would be a good start.
 
BryanSTG said:
This thread is about Microsoft not you.
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Looks at thread title again, looks a post that was quoted, looks at prediction, yup, sure enough, here we go..... :D (Hint to those who cannot be bothered to read the title, it is about Windows Mobile, not Microsoft.)
 
ManofGod said:
Looks at thread title again, looks a post that was quoted, looks at prediction, yup, sure enough, here we go..... :D (Hint to those who cannot be bothered to read the title, it is about Windows Mobile, not Microsoft.)
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Do you ever participate in a thread in a non defensive or abusive context?
 
ChadD said:
One day you say....
https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/17/samsung-dex-review-the-impressive-unnecessary-phone-powered-pc/
https://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-dex-review-you-got-your-computer-my-phone

The day is already here and its only going to get better... the chances of MS ever having a piece of this space. Zero. MS has lost.
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I disagree simply because of the fact that the vast majority of office users run Windows. This alone keeps them at least with a foot in the door. It's still going to be a long, hard road but if they can pull of a great phone, with a truly great dock/PC function, then I do believe that the corporate space will fall all over it.

Just think of it this way - Company only has to buy phone, dock, monitor, peripherals. No more PC. If they then are able to also ensure that this can be used with existing policy a la desktops/laptops, as an administrator/IT director I'd 100% be paying close attention.
 
BulletDust said:
Do you ever participate in a thread in a non defensive or abusive context?
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LOL! :D I am not particularly hopeful for any reboot of this mobile OS considering what they allowed to happen with the present and previous ones. It stinks but, that is the way the cookie crumbles.
 
If they were seriously committed they would enact a policy of every Microsoft employee required to use a Windows Phone as primary device. No exceptions. Additionally if caught on campus with an android or iPhone and not on a team supporting an app with that ecosystem... FIRED.
 
Uvaman2 said:
So how will they force adoption this time? Leveraging the desktop didn't work, sooo leveraging the ' cloud' somehow?
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Somehow I'll get an "upgrade to windows!" on my iphone.
 
Personally I loved windows 10 mobile. Had a Lumia for a while, the interface was already far more enjoyable to use than android. My only complaint was the lack of apps, and I don't believe any UI reboot is going to fix that.
 
focbde said:
I disagree simply because of the fact that the vast majority of office users run Windows. This alone keeps them at least with a foot in the door. It's still going to be a long, hard road but if they can pull of a great phone, with a truly great dock/PC function, then I do believe that the corporate space will fall all over it.

Just think of it this way - Company only has to buy phone, dock, monitor, peripherals. No more PC. If they then are able to also ensure that this can be used with existing policy a la desktops/laptops, as an administrator/IT director I'd 100% be paying close attention.
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They lost the day they allowed blackberry to take the enterprise from them years back. That showed enterprise clients that they didn't have to have windows on their phones. In fact many have played with versions of Windows mobile / Pocket PCs (for payment or shipping or sales tracking) and I can tell you from experience that always ended in tears. The problem for MS is they have both proven MS is not needed in anyway for full mobile integration (in fact they firmly believe its more secure to run another platform based on that early BB experience) and to top it off they have burned a ton of companies the last 20 years or so with really terrible PocketPC type products, which at this point with employees moving around almost every company has people with direct negative experience with.

In a lot of ways MS being so early to the smart phone / handheld device party has hurt them more then it has helped them in the long run.
 
gunbust3r said:
If they were seriously committed they would enact a policy of every Microsoft employee required to use a Windows Phone as primary device. No exceptions. Additionally if caught on campus with an android or iPhone and not on a team supporting an app with that ecosystem... FIRED.
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Who knows, they might discretely have that implemented. It's just too bad the contractors outnumber the FTE's by an insane amount.
 
focbde said:
Just think of it this way - Company only has to buy phone, dock, monitor, peripherals. No more PC. If they then are able to also ensure that this can be used with existing policy a la desktops/laptops, as an administrator/IT director I'd 100% be paying close attention.
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Yes, that's just what businesses want. Proprietary docks which need to be replaced every time a new model of phone comes out. Phones constantly broken and in need of replacing because people drop them all the time. Phones needing to be replaced every year or two because people have "accidents" to get a new model. And through all of this those people can't work because the phone is broken. Add into the the fact that OS updates make the phones useless every couple of years because either you can't get the update on the older phones or the updates make the phone half useless. The total cost of ownership would be through the roof compared to buying some new computers every 5-10 years.

I have no clue why people seem to think that carrying around a device which seems to get more and more breakable and are forced to be obsolete after a year or two is a good idea to use as primary computing device.
 
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