NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Neapolitan6th said:
Forgive my ignorance, but would the release of noctua's 15mm thick 120mm fan allow for a push/pull configuration that was previously only possible (with high quality fans) with the original C14?

If not, could this successfully be applied to other popular top-down coolers?
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This should allow the use of Noctua fans with say, the C14S, where previously you had to use other manufacturers' slim fans up top. This is not a new config, but the use of slim Noctuas would be.

Off the top of my head, there are no other top down coolers that had clearance issues that would be affected by this.
 
And here I am excited about the 4-pin Noctua 40mm fan that was announced. Hello better cooling on my NAS motherboard!
 
Ugh, I'm being totally wishy-washy here. Assuming sales/cashback are still good, I can pick up a Ryzen 1600 for 190$ or a Ryzen 1700 for 285$, and I can't make up my mind. I generally only use my desktop for gaming, but I do sometimes have stuff running in the background. No encoding, rendering, etc. I don't do any compiling on my home machine.

I can't really think of a good reason I *need* the 1700, but I *want* it. And it's *only* an extra 100$... but the 1600 is so good of a deal for what it is...
 
DarkForceRising said:
Ugh, I'm being totally wishy-washy here. Assuming sales/cashback are still good, I can pick up a Ryzen 1600 for 190$ or a Ryzen 1700 for 285$, and I can't make up my mind. I generally only use my desktop for gaming, but I do sometimes have stuff running in the background. No encoding, rendering, etc. I don't do any compiling on my home machine.

I can't really think of a good reason I *need* the 1700, but I *want* it. And it's *only* an extra 100$... but the 1600 is so good of a deal for what it is...
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Get the 1600. Six cores is more than enough for your needs, and it'll produce less heat meaning easier overclocks.

EDIT: If you put that $100 saved towards cooling, you'll wind up with better gaming performance overall.
 
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I highly recommend using a USB 3 Extension cable to shift the connection to the front panel to a better location, as in this photo:

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This multi-coloured cable was recently replaced by the black one that is linked above.
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I wasn't able to find that one in-stock anywhere, but Newegg had one that was much longer.
I'll give it a shot.
 
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gsilver said:
I wasn't able to find that one in-stock anywhere, but Newegg had one that was much longer.
I'll give it a shot.
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Another option is this 12cm extension cable at modDIY.

Sorry, that link is incorrect. It links to a Female-Female cable. A Male-Female cable is needed. This link is for the correct type of cable: https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.0-20%2dPin-Internal-Header-Adapter-Cable-(Low-Profile-Connector).html

Again, sorry for any confusion I may have caused and thanks to dreesi for detecting and reporting my mistake.
 
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dreesi said:
Maybe I am wrong, but don't you need this one: https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.0-20%2dPin-Internal-Header-Ribbon-Cable-(Low-Profile-Connector).html?
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Perhaps I am having trouble linking to the correct modDIY product page. The multi-coloured one that your link brings me to would work. I was trying to link to an all-black version of that cable. The important features are that one end is male and the other end is female.

Update: My initial link is definitely wrong. It is to a Female-Female cable. A Male-Female cable is needed like the one in dreesi's message above. The cable at that link has photos of two versions: a multi-coloured (rainbow-like) cable and a red-black cable. I don't know which one you would receive if you ordered from that webpage.

Here is a link to a modDIY webpage that has photos of the red-black Male-Female cable and an all-black cable (including one that is sleeved) : https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB...er-Adapter-Cable-(Low-Profile-Connector).html
 
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Cryorig is releasing full copper coolers including the C1 and M9, could be good for M1 owners.
 
Howdy all...new member here. I read through this ENTIRE thread until my eyeballs spontaneously combusted. But learned a LOT, plus it was pure geek-porn. So thanks for the contributions so far, and I will add mine once I finish my build.

I am getting my parts list ready for my M1 v5 build (case ordered). I would like it to last me a few years, so I am going for the latest and greatest (i7-7700 and 1080 TI), but will not do any overclocking. My main objective is to keep things as quiet as possible. I will mostly use if for FSX Steam Edition and/or X-Plane 11, plus a few adventure style games. Probably not the most taxing stuff.

Current parts list:
- CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.66GHz
- CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S (given that the NH-C14 is sold out)
- Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming
- Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4 3000
- SSD: Samsung EVO 960 500GB M.2
- GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition
- PSU: Corsair SF600
- Side intake fan: Noctua NF-A15 PWM
- Rear Exhaust fan: Noctua NF-B9 redux 1600 PWM

My questions to y'all wise ones:
1. Would it make more sense to go with the SF450 PSU instead of SF600? (I went with SF600 for now, hoping fan will never even kick in.)
2. Do you think the case mounted rear exhaust fan will help with temp control, given that I'll already have positive pressure?
3. Will a blower-style GPU (for lower case temps) likely be less noisy at medium load, or does it make more sense to go with open air?
4. Will GPU benefit from 1 (for blower style) or 2 (for open air) bottom intake fans, such as the Noctua NF-S12A PWM?

Thanks for reading!
 
mobidutch said:
Howdy all...new member here. I read through this ENTIRE thread until my eyeballs spontaneously combusted. But learned a LOT, plus it was pure geek-porn. So thanks for the contributions so far, and I will add mine once I finish my build.

I am getting my parts list ready for my M1 v5 build (case ordered). I would like it to last me a few years, so I am going for the latest and greatest (i7-7700 and 1080 TI), but will not do any overclocking. My main objective is to keep things as quiet as possible. I will mostly use if for FSX Steam Edition and/or X-Plane 11, plus a few adventure style games. Probably not the most taxing stuff.

Current parts list:
- CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.66GHz
- CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S (given that the NH-C14 is sold out)
- Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming
- Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4 3000
- SSD: Samsung EVO 960 500GB M.2
- GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition
- PSU: Corsair SF600
- Side intake fan: Noctua NF-A15 PWM
- Rear Exhaust fan: Noctua NF-B9 redux 1600 PWM

My questions to y'all wise ones:
1. Would it make more sense to go with the SF450 PSU instead of SF600? (I went with SF600 for now, hoping fan will never even kick in.)
2. Do you think the case mounted rear exhaust fan will help with temp control, given that I'll already have positive pressure?
3. Will a blower-style GPU (for lower case temps) likely be less noisy at medium load, or does it make more sense to go with open air?
4. Will GPU benefit from 1 (for blower style) or 2 (for open air) bottom intake fans, such as the Noctua NF-S12A PWM?

Thanks for reading!
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I'd recommend the nh-c14s combined with an sfx to atx mounting bracket to allow the included 140mm fan to be mounted under the heatsink.
I've had great results with this setup :)
 
mobidutch said:
Howdy all...new member here. I read through this ENTIRE thread until my eyeballs spontaneously combusted. But learned a LOT, plus it was pure geek-porn. So thanks for the contributions so far, and I will add mine once I finish my build.

I am getting my parts list ready for my M1 v5 build (case ordered). I would like it to last me a few years, so I am going for the latest and greatest (i7-7700 and 1080 TI), but will not do any overclocking. My main objective is to keep things as quiet as possible. I will mostly use if for FSX Steam Edition and/or X-Plane 11, plus a few adventure style games. Probably not the most taxing stuff.

Current parts list:
- CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.66GHz
- CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S (given that the NH-C14 is sold out)
- Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming
- Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4 3000
- SSD: Samsung EVO 960 500GB M.2
- GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition
- PSU: Corsair SF600
- Side intake fan: Noctua NF-A15 PWM
- Rear Exhaust fan: Noctua NF-B9 redux 1600 PWM

My questions to y'all wise ones:
1. Would it make more sense to go with the SF450 PSU instead of SF600? (I went with SF600 for now, hoping fan will never even kick in.)
2. Do you think the case mounted rear exhaust fan will help with temp control, given that I'll already have positive pressure?
3. Will a blower-style GPU (for lower case temps) likely be less noisy at medium load, or does it make more sense to go with open air?
4. Will GPU benefit from 1 (for blower style) or 2 (for open air) bottom intake fans, such as the Noctua NF-S12A PWM?

Thanks for reading!
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As you're not going with a K sku CPU, you don't really need all the extra cooling. So go minimal on fans. Stick with the A15 and forgo the rear 92mm. (This is coming from someone who has a similar ish setup). I have the SF450W, A15 as intake on the side, D9L cooler, with a 92mm on the rear. However I have my CPU overclocked and Australian ambient temps aren't the greatest lol.

PSU you can go either, not sure where the fan ramps up for the SF600 though.

Open air will still be cooler than blower style and run quieter. Blower is good for internal temps, which affects CPU, however again you're not overclocking. If you're going for silence the open air will still be quieter. The Strix 1080 Ti seems alright - https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_Ti_Strix_OC/28.html EVGA is apparently louder. (Though in my case, with a GTX 1070, I found my EVGA SC to be quieter than my current Strix OC.) But different GPU.

Again, going for noise, less fans, less noise. I'd let the GPU fend for itself.

PSU FAN + GPU Fan(S) + A15 intake + CPU single 92mm. I'd leave it there IMO.
 
ReaperX22 said:
As you're not going with a K sku CPU, you don't really need all the extra cooling. So go minimal on fans. Stick with the A15 and forgo the rear 92mm. (This is coming from someone who has a similar ish setup). I have the SF450W, A15 as intake on the side, D9L cooler, with a 92mm on the rear. However I have my CPU overclocked and Australian ambient temps aren't the greatest lol.

PSU you can go either, not sure where the fan ramps up for the SF600 though.

Open air will still be cooler than blower style and run quieter. Blower is good for internal temps, which affects CPU, however again you're not overclocking. If you're going for silence the open air will still be quieter. The Strix 1080 Ti seems alright - https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_Ti_Strix_OC/28.html EVGA is apparently louder. (Though in my case, with a GTX 1070, I found my EVGA SC to be quieter than my current Strix OC.) But different GPU.

Again, going for noise, less fans, less noise. I'd let the GPU fend for itself.

PSU FAN + GPU Fan(S) + A15 intake + CPU single 92mm. I'd leave it there IMO.
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I appreciate the advice. I'll start with the minimal fan configuration like you suggested. Makes good sense, as I can always add bottom or rear if needed. Also appreciate the feedback on the 1080 Ti choice. I will post pics and stats once it's all done. Thanks!
 
First of all, this case has a great community, there is already so much information available that you can use when picking parts.

All my previous builds have been in huge cases and still have loud stock CPU coolers etc. So this time I want to do it right, I've already orderd a m1, and now I'm trying to find a quiet setup, I'm currently thinking about this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
Mobo: Biostar Racing X370GTN
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 AERO 8G OC
Memory: G.Skill Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX
Power: Corsair SF600
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S + Noctua NM-AM4
Case Fan's: 3x Noctua NF-F12 PWM (side and for cpu cooler), 120mm and a Noctua NF-A9 PWM, 92mm (rear)

I have a few questions.
1. Is it smart to keep the blower style GPU cooler, or should I invest in a Artic Accelero? Or maybe just another card (like a Strix)? Especially since 1700X uses a bit more power.
2. I was thinking about a setup like this, does anyone have experience with that? And is it overkill? I will try to overclock the CPU, but I can imagine that a setup like that could be quite loud.

Thanks for all the effort you guys already have put into this forum.
 
mobidutch said:
I appreciate the advice. I'll start with the minimal fan configuration like you suggested. Makes good sense, as I can always add bottom or rear if needed. Also appreciate the feedback on the 1080 Ti choice. I will post pics and stats once it's all done. Thanks!
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Exactly, save a few bucks to start, see how you find it, add fans later if you really want to. It's not one of those parts you need to pick and stick with from the get go like a motherboard. Look forward to it! :)
 
cornedor said:
First of all, this case has a great community, there is already so much information available that you can use when picking parts.

All my previous builds have been in huge cases and still have loud stock CPU coolers etc. So this time I want to do it right, I've already orderd a m1, and now I'm trying to find a quiet setup, I'm currently thinking about this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
Mobo: Biostar Racing X370GTN
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 AERO 8G OC
Memory: G.Skill Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX
Power: Corsair SF600
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S + Noctua NM-AM4
Case Fan's: 3x Noctua NF-F12 PWM (side and for cpu cooler), 120mm and a Noctua NF-A9 PWM, 92mm (rear)

I have a few questions.
1. Is it smart to keep the blower style GPU cooler, or should I invest in a Artic Accelero? Or maybe just another card (like a Strix)? Especially since 1700X uses a bit more power.
2. I was thinking about a setup like this, does anyone have experience with that? And is it overkill? I will try to overclock the CPU, but I can imagine that a setup like that could be quite loud.

Thanks for all the effort you guys already have put into this forum.
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I'm planning a very similar build, but I'm not going to use the Biostar. I'm awaiting the Asrock that's supposed to release next month.

Anyway, my only notes are these: the fit on the NH-C14S is going to be very dependent on socket placement in the motherboard. It may work, it may not, I haven't even looked at pictures because I don't want that board. You're the first I know of to use the C14S on the Biostar mITX. Secondly, the NF-F12 fans aren't going to work with the C14S. The C14S is too tall, which is why it's not liked as much around here as the C14 was. You need slim 15mm fans, instead of the standard 25mm fans. Fortunately, Noctua literally just announced 15mmx120x120mm fans last week. If those come into stock, you can presumably use those.
 
DarkForceRising said:
I'm planning a very similar build, but I'm not going to use the Biostar. I'm awaiting the Asrock that's supposed to release next month.

Anyway, my only notes are these: the fit on the NH-C14S is going to be very dependent on socket placement in the motherboard. It may work, it may not, I haven't even looked at pictures because I don't want that board. You're the first I know of to use the C14S on the Biostar mITX. Secondly, the NF-F12 fans aren't going to work with the C14S. The C14S is too tall, which is why it's not liked as much around here as the C14 was. You need slim 15mm fans, instead of the standard 25mm fans. Fortunately, Noctua literally just announced 15mmx120x120mm fans last week. If those come into stock, you can presumably use those.
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What could be the differences to wait for the Asrock?

The Noctua NF-A12x15-PWM is already in stock here in the Netherlands, so i'll go with that. I'll try to measure position of the socket from images to see if the NG-C14S might fit.

If I find out something I will post it here again.
 
Well, I put some gaming onto my M1.
The Arctic Accelero Xtreme III performs admirably on my 1070 (+Silent Wings 3 fans), and the game that I tried (Vanquish) kept the temperature in the low 70s while keeping the fan at 27% (with occasional peaks of 33%). After flashing an EVGA bios, I got the fans to idle at 0% (though I set them to always run at at least the minimum-on speed, as that seemed a bit better than having them switch on occasionally at idle)

But the PSU fan is definitely spinning up more with the PSU being rotated. I'm going to look into my CPU fan mounting options again (using a C14s and a SFX-L power supply)
Maybe I can bend some 120mm clips a bit to get a 120mm fan firmly in place (before rotating the PSU, I had a loose 120mm fan in there, but it really needs something holding it in place to stop vibration noise).
Using the 140mm fan (requiring the PSU being rotated) just causes too much noise. PSU-side. The CPU fan is nice and quiet.

I'm also interested in putting the new slim Noctua in the PSU.
Is it better to get the FLX version?
I'm hardly stressing the PSU, so maybe using the ULNA to make it run at ~800 RPM under load would be best.
 
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cornedor said:
Are there measurements available for NCASE with the spacing available around the motherboard? I've placed the NH-C14S ontop of the Biostar mobo, it looks quite close. (http://imgur.com/a/6pDwI)
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It appears to me that only the second orientation will fit inside the M1. That orientation has heatpipes horizontal with their closed ends towards the front of the case. Hopefully the heatpipes and the heatsink fins do not interfere with the power supply. If they do, then you may have to mount the PS at the very front of the case using the ATX power supply mount. If you need an SFX-to-ATX adapter plate, a popular one is the Silverstone PP08.
 
I also just put the Arctic Accelero Extreme III in my Ncase M1. It is cooling my GTX770, but not very well. I ran the Unigen Heaven benchmark and it got up to over 83 degrees before I quit the benchmark. I have 2 arctic F12 PWM fans plugged in to the graphics card fan slot, pulling air in from under the case. they spin up pretty fast when the card gets over 60 degrees or so, but the temp just keeps climbing. I think I might take it apart again to see if I'm getting good contact between the GPU die and the cooler. Any tips or advice for figuring out why it's not working so well?
 
tear it apart and check contact/tim. add more tim too, as a little extra is better than not enough. if temps are still high try adjusting the fan curve and maybe experiment with raising the case up a bit(blocks under feet) for better airflow. see if any of that helps.
 
Frazhna said:
I also just put the Arctic Accelero Extreme III in my Ncase M1. It is cooling my GTX770, but not very well. I ran the Unigen Heaven benchmark and it got up to over 83 degrees before I quit the benchmark. I have 2 arctic F12 PWM fans plugged in to the graphics card fan slot, pulling air in from under the case. they spin up pretty fast when the card gets over 60 degrees or so, but the temp just keeps climbing. I think I might take it apart again to see if I'm getting good contact between the GPU die and the cooler. Any tips or advice for figuring out why it's not working so well?
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Another option is to flip the bottom fans so that they exhaust warm air. Your side fans (if any) should be set as intakes.
 
cornedor said:
What could be the differences to wait for the Asrock?
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Best info on specs I've seen:
ASRock :
Gigabyte : www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5z7dnl/new_mitx_board_gigabyte_ab350ngaming_wifi

The most noticeable thing is included wifi, which I actually don't care about much. Based on some of the Reddit comments, there are some nicely upgraded parts: lan chips, sound cards, etc.

The biggest thing for me is that the Biostar is a budget option, and most of the firsthand comments I've heard about it bear that out. Merely acceptable board components and power delivery, terrible BIOS. Everyone I've heard talking about it has basically had "it works" as the best thing to say about it.

On the flip side, everything I've heard about Asrock's recent motherboards, and especially their support from AM4, has been really positive.

So basically I'm banking on the Asrock's being the first *good* AM4 ITX board.
 
DarkForceRising said:
Best info on specs I've seen:
ASRock :
Gigabyte : www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5z7dnl/new_mitx_board_gigabyte_ab350ngaming_wifi

The most noticeable thing is included wifi, which I actually don't care about much. Based on some of the Reddit comments, there are some nicely upgraded parts: lan chips, sound cards, etc.

The biggest thing for me is that the Biostar is a budget option, and most of the firsthand comments I've heard about it bear that out. Merely acceptable board components and power delivery, terrible BIOS. Everyone I've heard talking about it has basically had "it works" as the best thing to say about it.

On the flip side, everything I've heard about Asrock's recent motherboards, and especially their support from AM4, has been really positive.

So basically I'm banking on the Asrock's being the first *good* AM4 ITX board.
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I have to agree, I had also heard that Asrock is making some really top notch AM4 boards. I recently switched to an Asrock Z270 Fatal1ty board and I have to say I am really impressed, this isn't the old Asrock budget board. From the several reviews I read Asrock has really stepped up on the components they are using. The BIOS is really nice with a lot of options for OCing. My Gigabyte Z170 G1 was only able to give me a 4.4 GHz OC on my 6600k, I was able to achieve a 4.8 GHz OC with the Asrock board.

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rfarmer said:
I have to agree, I had also heard that Asrock is making some really top notch AM4 boards. I recently switched to an Asrock Z270 Fatal1ty board and I have to say I am really impressed, this isn't the old Asrock budget board. From the several reviews I read Asrock has really stepped up on the components they are using. The BIOS is really nice with a lot of options for OCing. My Gigabyte Z170 G1 was only able to give me a 4.4 GHz OC on my 6600k, I was able to achieve a 4.8 GHz OC with the Asrock board.

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Wow.... that's a huge jump. I was under the distinct impression that really the boards are such high quality nowadays that they don't affect OCing anymore.
 
Chapeau said:
Wow.... that's a huge jump. I was under the distinct impression that really the boards are such high quality nowadays that they don't affect OCing anymore.
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The biggest problem was the limited BIOS options with the Gigabyte, Asrock gives you a lot more.
 
DarkForceRising said:
I'm planning a very similar build, but I'm not going to use the Biostar. I'm awaiting the Asrock that's supposed to release next month.

Anyway, my only notes are these: the fit on the NH-C14S is going to be very dependent on socket placement in the motherboard. It may work, it may not, I haven't even looked at pictures because I don't want that board. You're the first I know of to use the C14S on the Biostar mITX. Secondly, the NF-F12 fans aren't going to work with the C14S. The C14S is too tall, which is why it's not liked as much around here as the C14 was. You need slim 15mm fans, instead of the standard 25mm fans. Fortunately, Noctua literally just announced 15mmx120x120mm fans last week. If those come into stock, you can presumably use those.
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Just a hint, using a slim fan on top didnt give me a measureable difference. And i used the fw121 from Silverstone.

The included 140mm fan does an incredible job alone!
 
Welp, I 'side-graded' this weekend after my GB Z97 board gave me troubles for about the 4th time this month. I also managed to not be so lazy and put the EVGA CLC on the TXP. Even got some better pics in the meantime. Enjoy:
http://imgur.com/a/MA6gS

rfarmer said:
Very, very nice. Will the panels be for sale separately?
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I am also curious about this as well. If that's the case, I'll hold out for these :D.

mobidutch said:
Howdy all...new member here. I read through this ENTIRE thread until my eyeballs spontaneously combusted. But learned a LOT, plus it was pure geek-porn. So thanks for the contributions so far, and I will add mine once I finish my build.

I am getting my parts list ready for my M1 v5 build (case ordered). I would like it to last me a few years, so I am going for the latest and greatest (i7-7700 and 1080 TI), but will not do any overclocking. My main objective is to keep things as quiet as possible. I will mostly use if for FSX Steam Edition and/or X-Plane 11, plus a few adventure style games. Probably not the most taxing stuff.

Current parts list:
- CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.66GHz
- CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S (given that the NH-C14 is sold out)
- Mobo: ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming
- Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4 3000
- SSD: Samsung EVO 960 500GB M.2
- GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition
- PSU: Corsair SF600
- Side intake fan: Noctua NF-A15 PWM
- Rear Exhaust fan: Noctua NF-B9 redux 1600 PWM

My questions to y'all wise ones:
1. Would it make more sense to go with the SF450 PSU instead of SF600? (I went with SF600 for now, hoping fan will never even kick in.)
2. Do you think the case mounted rear exhaust fan will help with temp control, given that I'll already have positive pressure?
3. Will a blower-style GPU (for lower case temps) likely be less noisy at medium load, or does it make more sense to go with open air?
4. Will GPU benefit from 1 (for blower style) or 2 (for open air) bottom intake fans, such as the Noctua NF-S12A PWM?

Thanks for reading!
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I will go ahead and say that you will need bottom fans for that particular GPU. However, between the STRIX and the SC BE, the SC BE performed better in the NCASE in particular. In any other case, the STRIX should perform better. Without bottom fans, you will hit your temp limit within an hour of gaming. The PSU should be fine since you're not OC'ing the CPU. A GPU OC will still be viable and you'll be well within the limits of 450w. (250w TDP on GPU, 65w TDP on CPU, etc.). Also, I'm guessing you have FSB OC'ed the 7700?

ReaperX22 said:
As you're not going with a K sku CPU, you don't really need all the extra cooling. So go minimal on fans. Stick with the A15 and forgo the rear 92mm. (This is coming from someone who has a similar ish setup). I have the SF450W, A15 as intake on the side, D9L cooler, with a 92mm on the rear. However I have my CPU overclocked and Australian ambient temps aren't the greatest lol.

PSU you can go either, not sure where the fan ramps up for the SF600 though.

Open air will still be cooler than blower style and run quieter. Blower is good for internal temps, which affects CPU, however again you're not overclocking. If you're going for silence the open air will still be quieter. The Strix 1080 Ti seems alright - https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_Ti_Strix_OC/28.html EVGA is apparently louder. (Though in my case, with a GTX 1070, I found my EVGA SC to be quieter than my current Strix OC.) But different GPU.

Again, going for noise, less fans, less noise. I'd let the GPU fend for itself.

PSU FAN + GPU Fan(S) + A15 intake + CPU single 92mm. I'd leave it there IMO.
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I found the same to be true between the STRIX and the SC BE. The STRIX is a great cooler, but ultimately just struggled in this particular case for a few reasons.

cornedor said:
First of all, this case has a great community, there is already so much information available that you can use when picking parts.

All my previous builds have been in huge cases and still have loud stock CPU coolers etc. So this time I want to do it right, I've already orderd a m1, and now I'm trying to find a quiet setup, I'm currently thinking about this:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
Mobo: Biostar Racing X370GTN
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 AERO 8G OC
Memory: G.Skill Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX
Power: Corsair SF600
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S + Noctua NM-AM4
Case Fan's: 3x Noctua NF-F12 PWM (side and for cpu cooler), 120mm and a Noctua NF-A9 PWM, 92mm (rear)

I have a few questions.
1. Is it smart to keep the blower style GPU cooler, or should I invest in a Artic Accelero? Or maybe just another card (like a Strix)? Especially since 1700X uses a bit more power.
2. I was thinking about a setup like this, does anyone have experience with that? And is it overkill? I will try to overclock the CPU, but I can imagine that a setup like that could be quite loud.

Thanks for all the effort you guys already have put into this forum.
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Since your goal is noise reduction on this build, I think starting with a FE and putting on a Arctic Cooling Accelero III down the line will be a great idea. It's ultimately going to be quieter than any AIB you'll put in this case and it rivals the noise of putting on a hybrid kit while being cheaper.

cornedor said:
Are there measurements available for NCASE with the spacing available around the motherboard? I've placed the NH-C14S ontop of the Biostar mobo, it looks quite close. (http://imgur.com/a/6pDwI)
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Qrash said:
It appears to me that only the second orientation will fit inside the M1. That orientation has heatpipes horizontal with their closed ends towards the front of the case. Hopefully the heatpipes and the heatsink fins do not interfere with the power supply. If they do, then you may have to mount the PS at the very front of the case using the ATX power supply mount. If you need an SFX-to-ATX adapter plate, a popular one is the Silverstone PP08.
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Indeed. It only looks like pic 2 will work. that was the only way I could mount it on my Z97 board and still have a GPU.

DarkForceRising said:
Best info on specs I've seen:
ASRock :
Gigabyte : www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5z7dnl/new_mitx_board_gigabyte_ab350ngaming_wifi

The most noticeable thing is included wifi, which I actually don't care about much. Based on some of the Reddit comments, there are some nicely upgraded parts: lan chips, sound cards, etc.

The biggest thing for me is that the Biostar is a budget option, and most of the firsthand comments I've heard about it bear that out. Merely acceptable board components and power delivery, terrible BIOS. Everyone I've heard talking about it has basically had "it works" as the best thing to say about it.

On the flip side, everything I've heard about Asrock's recent motherboards, and especially their support from AM4, has been really positive.

So basically I'm banking on the Asrock's being the first *good* AM4 ITX board.
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That is a VERY attractive board for AM4. This is looking perfect for the HTPC I want to build. I don't really need the wifi for the HTPC build as it will sit right next to the router and modem, but it's 2017...let's be real that since most Z97 boards had built in Wifi, this should be a standard on a new platform....especially the AM4 platform that are bragging about using the top-tier X370 chipset.

rfarmer said:
I have to agree, I had also heard that Asrock is making some really top notch AM4 boards. I recently switched to an Asrock Z270 Fatal1ty board and I have to say I am really impressed, this isn't the old Asrock budget board. From the several reviews I read Asrock has really stepped up on the components they are using. The BIOS is really nice with a lot of options for OCing. My Gigabyte Z170 G1 was only able to give me a 4.4 GHz OC on my 6600k, I was able to achieve a 4.8 GHz OC with the Asrock board.

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I've not enjoyed my GB that much. I actually had my final straw with it this weekend and replaced. Everything from *THE* most awful BIOS fan control, to the BIOS not posting consistently because of my GPU (this is apparently a common problem with my particular board and PCIe 3.0 cards), I couldn't handle it anymore. The ASUS and ASRock Z97 boards I dealt with on the other hand have both been grade-A.
 
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